Probably HF crap

[dumpstralmannow]

tsn1200here in ottawa is saying a deal has been reached pending physicals. Apparently its

Zotto
Hagelin

For

Methot
Greening
Stone

I'm listening to this station, heard nothing. Seems like a terrible deal. Stone has insane numbers in junior and his AHL numbers are good. I can see him in a deal for MDZ but not with Hagelin.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Probably some stupid troll garbage.

 

[Ranger71]

Thats not a bad deal. Methot is decent, Stone is a good prospect with size and Greening for the 3rd line. Too bad theyd lose Hagelin though.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

That deal sucks. I wouldn't trade Hagelin alone for all three of those guys.

 

[chuckd3534]

The Rangers are believed to be “demanding” Marc Methot from the Ottawa Senators in any potential deal for Michael Del Zotto. (Ottawa Sun)

The Rangers won’t get Methot but may be able to get Patrick Wiercicoch. Weircioch has been a scratch lately but has “upside potential. (Ottawa Sun)

The Leafs, Sharks and Avs are interested in Del Zotto but the Rangers may have to change their asking price. (Ottawa Sun)

A league executive says that Del Zotto’s value has gone down and that he isn’t worth what he was earlier in the year. (Ottawa Sun)

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Mehot is averaging 21:31 per game for Ottawa this season. He is signed through next season at $3 million.

Weircioch, 23, is averaging over 17 minutes per game and has two goals and 11 assists. He was a second round pick in 2008. He is signed for two more seasons at $2 million

 

[chuckd3534]

I'm telling you, a deal is coming soon. Maybe even this week. Way too much smoke while we continue to struggle. Something will happen real soon.

 

[Ranger71]

Stone hurt the Rangers a few years ago when he came up. The only issue i have with losing Hagelin would be team quickness would be almost nothing without him.

 

[theProdigy223]

Love that bit about his value being lower than what it was earlier this year. Good thing we just scratched him over and over instead of dealing him when we had the chance.

 

[chuckd3534]

BTW...this line angers me bigtime. We should have made a move earlier, and that falls right at the feet of lazy Sather:

A league executive says that Del Zotto’s value has gone down and that he isn’t worth what he was earlier in the year. (Ottawa Sun)

 

[chuckd3534]

Love that bit about his value being lower than what it was earlier this year. Good thing we just scratched him over and over instead of dealing him when we had the chance.

Pisses me off, and shows why Sather is a joke. Comical...let's scratch him, lower his value, and then deal him. RETIRE OLD MAN.

 

[theProdigy223]

If this is legit, not happy about it. Don't want to give up Hags for this kind of return. And again, WHERE ARE THE GOALS??

 

[Ranger71]

Methot could be an insurance against not re-signing Girardi and losing Staal eventually. He's a good shutdown type so that's one reason they may really want him. DZ may or may not get better on a new team, he may continue to struggle and never reach his 'potential'. So to me it would be trading him for Greening and Stone and trading Hagelin for Methot. Stone is someone who could make this roster next year, even though i've read his skating isn't all that great, he has good size and skill. Greening is what he is but is an upgrade over the Pyatts of the world.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

For the patience crowd. Look at Steen's career. He hardly was impressive in many of his NHL seasons. Says volume about what a supporting cast and chemistry can do.

 

[Messiah717]

I can no longer tolerate MDZ not being able to take a pass cleanly, fumbling the puck at the blueline on the PP and not being able to hit the net. He has been in the league long enough. This is who he is.

 

[chuckd3534]

And now he is out with a concussion dump. Crazy really. If you don't get concussed in hockey these days you should feel lucky.

And I agree Mess. I am done also. I have been for a while, but I admit now it eats at me every time I see him miss a pass, or miss the net, or get beaten in the corner for a puck. I want him gone if we can get a solid return...and honestly I think Sather and AV feel the same way. I personally don't see anyway Sather re-signs MDZ this summer anyway, so if we get a good solid offer we should jump, and I think we will. MDZ will be gone within 2 weeks, or worst case in Jan, I really feel that will happen.

 

[Stepupstepan]

thats terrible trade.

 

[chuckd3534]

I agree, I don't like that deal either. I would give up Hags with MDZ, but we need more return than that. And the dmen are L's as well (Methot and Wier). We want R shooters on D.

Stone can maybe be a 2nd line winger, but that is no lock. And Greening is a 4th line guy who can score maybe 10 or so goals.

Not sure I see the upside to deal MDZ and Hags for that package.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

That deal sucks. Method is a bum ms Hagelin is better than Greening. Who cares about Stone, he won't help this team... Has to be troll garbage.

 

[Disturbed]

There is no reason to trade Hags unless you are getting a better return than that. Pass

 

[mrmel29]

If this is a legit trade then we are really in trouble as this trade sucks for us and that means the only thing sather did well is now gone also.

 

[cagedlion]

If Hagelin is part of this asinine trade, Sather and his idiot herd need to go.

And I'm finished rooting for mediocre NY Ranger teams...with
NO POSITIVE PLAN.....and dealing them to an Eastern
Conference team. What crap!

 

[NYR1962]

What a horrendous deal if this happens. This already slow team would trade its fastest and quickest guy for that deal? If this deal happens, I'll be a full fledged CBJ fan until Sather is outta here. This just cant be true. Are we approaching April fools day?

 

[Disturbed]

What a horrendous deal if this happens. This already slow team would trade its fastest and quickest guy for that deal? If this deal happens, I'll be a full fledged CBJ fan until Sather is outta here. This just cant be true. Are we approaching April fools day?

Aren't you pretty much a full fledged CBJ fan now???

 

[chuckd3534]

A lot of 62 and caged right now. This is their time to shine...LOL.

 

[theProdigy223]

Haha yup, 62 in full fledged Dubinsky-longing mode and just completely forgetting Dubi and his cool 4.2m went 23 straight games for Columbus last year with a whopping zero goals. Yeah this team could use his (at best occasional) fire and emotion but it's laughable people miss him with that kind of cap hit.

 

[chuckd3534]

The Rangers may be better off keeping Del Zotto in the short-term because of the recent injuries to the Rangers defense. Even with keeping him in the short term, it’s more than likely that Del Zotto won’t get his next contract from the Rangers. (Daily News)



I still think he gets dealt soon, or someone does. And I agree, I just do not see the Rangers re-signing him this summer. The %'s on that are VERY low IMO. Which means the smart play is to deal him before the trade DL, assuming we can still get solid value for DZ.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

If MDZ's value is low based off of stupid scouts not grasping he can't play the right side, then keep him until he plays better. Common sense.

Let the bidding war between the Ducks, Red Wings, Bruins begin for Girardi. I expect Pitt to quietly get involved as well as the Black Hawks. The Hawks have an amazing offense but their defense past Keith and Seabrook is crap.

 

[NYR1962]

Yes Dis, I root for CBJ except when they play the Rangers. All you Dubi haters try to define him by his goals. He was never a goal scorer at any level, so expecting him to be that in the NHL was never realistic. His value is his all around game. Rangers are still trying to replace what the lost with him. He has played tremendously for CBJ. Is at a little under a point per game, plays in every situation, great on face offs, pk, hits like a tank, sets others up, and his sheer intensity lifts that entire team, said so by his coach. They missed his fire just for practice, said so his coach.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

You are on drugs. He hasn't played tremendously at all for the Jackets. His offense was been just as inconsistent for them as it was here and he's been hurt a lot. You are so wrong on Dubinsky it's mind boggling. He's far below a PPG now.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

In 61 games for the Jackets he has 8 goals and 44 points. Whoopdee damn do. 8 goals for over 4 million freakin sucks.