Question for the Haters out there

[Mediocre Man]

Houston does not resemble an NBDL team, either. They beat Golden State on the road as the second half of a back-to-back, and they have some real talent. They probably won't make the playoffs but are a mediocre NBA team, rather than a bad one, even with Yao and McGrady out.

You are certainly entitled to your opinions, but I think your expectations are too high and view of other teams might be a bit distorted.

Ed O.

What expectations of mine are too high? I only ask because that is the first time someone has accused me of that one.

 

[ebott]

Seriously, why do you have a Lakers' Championship ring as your avatar? Who did you lose a bet to?

Ed O has done the best job laying things out. The team can win, but if my player (Martell Webster for me) doesn't do well, I will be displeased.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect fewer than 26 turnovers in a game, and I don't think it's unreasonable to be unhappy with the team's carelessness in that regard.

I also don't think it's unreasonable to expect better than 5-18 from our star, or to expect our team's prior year assist leader to feed the ball to our team's franchise center once in a while.

I think it's important to differentiate from criticisms which are legitimate and those which are unfounded or irrational.

Bingo, bango, bongo!

 

[THE HCP]

We'll see! I'm working and won't be able to check this place out til around midnight. I wonder which one of you will call for Nate's head, a trade of Travis or jumps off a ledge first. Somebody make a poll about who's gonna go crazy first!

 

[barfo]

I say anyone who flashes a lakers ring around is a hater.

barfo

 

[hasoos]

This all comes down to whether you are happy with a team that just beats most of the teams in the league, but never wins a championship, or you believe the team should be capable of more. To win a championship you have to play at a higher level. It is very rare that a team wins a championship and does not demonstrate that level of play throughout the season. Not fracking up and dropping 27 turnovers against one of the teams that will be one of the worst in the league this year. On the bright side of things, the Blazers won a game that they fracked up that badly in. The point being, that most of us who are criticizing the team for the said performance, know that they cannot beat a good team if they play like that. Good teams perform at a consistently high level all season long. That is why they are good. Not up one game and down the next. If you play every game hard and with focus, it makes it natural for a team to play that way. You expect it every night.

When the LA Lakers/Boston Celtics roll into town do you expect them to drop 27 turnovers, ever? No. Because good teams make it a war every night, and if you don't bring it they kick your fracking teeth in. You know your team has to bring its best effort to beat them, because of who they are and how they play every night. If Portland ever wants to get to that level, they have to play that way. Every game. That is how you become feared and respected.

 

[THE HCP]

This all comes down to whether you are happy with a team that just beats most of the teams in the league, but never wins a championship, or you believe the team should be capable of more. To win a championship you have to play at a higher level. It is very rare that a team wins a championship and does not demonstrate that level of play throughout the season. Not fracking up and dropping 27 turnovers against one of the teams that will be one of the worst in the league this year. On the bright side of things, the Blazers won a game that they fracked up that badly in. The point being, that most of us who are criticizing the team for the said performance, know that they cannot beat a good team if they play like that. Good teams perform at a consistently high level all season long. That is why they are good. Not up one game and down the next. If you play every game hard and with focus, it makes it natural for a team to play that way. You expect it every night.

When the LA Lakers/Boston Celtics roll into town do you expect them to drop 27 turnovers, ever? No. Because good teams make it a war every night, and if you don't bring it they kick your fracking teeth in. You know your team has to bring its best effort to beat them, because of who they are and how they play every night. If Portland ever wants to get to that level, they have to play that way. Every game. That is how you become feared and respected.

Great points. I'm not questioning anybody's passion for this team, it just blows me away how negative people are being about a team they supposedly love. You have to support this team through good times and bad, ups and downs. Like I said before, i have no problem with criticism or complaints, it's just how some people do it that confuses me.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Since Denver doesn't resemble an NBDL team I will be very happy if we eek out a victory. If we go up by 20 and let them come back in the fourth, in our building, I won't be as happy. If we lose I will be upset because there is no reason to lose to a team at home when they are on the second half of a back to back.

Does that make Clevland a NBDL team?

 

[Ed O]

What expectations of mine are too high? I only ask because that is the first time someone has accused me of that one.

Maybe "expectations" was the wrong word.

The Blazers are not that much better than other teams in the West--even non-playoff teams--and I don't think that losing to a good Denver team at home--even with the other team on a back-to-back--would be that much of a surprise.

Hopefully I'm wrong and the team IS that good, so I should share your analysis

Ed O.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Maybe "expectations" was the wrong word.

The Blazers are not that much better than other teams in the West--even non-playoff teams--and I don't think that losing to a good Denver team at home--even with the other team on a back-to-back--would be that much of a surprise.

Hopefully I'm wrong and the team IS that good, so I should share your analysis

Ed O.

Oh my goodness do you have me wrong.

I don't think the Blazers are nearly as good as most people. I do think, however, that they are fairly equal to Denver and should be able to beat them at home with an extra day to prepare. If not, I won't be shocked, but still upset that they lost.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Does that make Clevland a NBDL team?

No, but they have an NBDL coach.

 

[oldmangrouch]

No, but they have an NBDL coach.

Touche'!

 

[The_Lillard_King]

No, but they have an NBDL coach.

I should have known . . . it's the coaches fault.


Did you see the developmental team beat an NBA team on the road, on the second half of a back to back. Not to bad for a developmental team.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm probably misunderstanding, but, uh, CLE lost last night.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I'm probably misunderstanding, but, uh, CLE lost last night.

MM is setting the stage for crucifying the Blazers (or should I say Nate) if they lose tonight . . . "can't lose a home game when the other team is coming off a back to back"

Well Clev didn't lose a home game to a team coming off a back to back . .. but they lost 2 games in a row including one to the Raptors. Just wondering if MM now puts Clevland into his developmental team category . . .

 

[Mediocre Man]

MM is setting the stage for crucifying the Blazers (or should I say Nate) if they lose tonight . . . "can't lose a home game when the other team is coming off a back to back"

Well Clev didn't lose a home game to a team coming off a back to back . .. but they lost 2 games in a row including one to the Raptors. Just wondering if MM now puts Clevland into his developmental team category . . .

And I answered that they have a shitty coach.


Portland shouldn't lose tonight. Top to bottom, Portland has more talent than Denver, although it's close. They have also had an extra day to look at film. If the team loses tonight, it won't be because we were beat by a better team.

 

[RR7]

And if we lose tonight, is it only because we have a bad coach?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

And I answered that they have a shitty coach.


Portland shouldn't lose tonight. Top to bottom, Portland has more talent than Denver, although it's close. They have also had an extra day to look at film. If the team loses tonight, it won't be because we were beat by a better team.

Denver knocked on the door of playing for a world championship last season. They challenged the Lakers and some would say they improved with the additions of Affalo and Lawson. On top of that, Carmello Anthony, a star for his team and the Olympic team, is coming into the season as healthy as he has been in a year.

It is the begining of the year so back to back games really aren't going to effect players as shown by Houston (a terrible team) winning on the road in a back to back game. Boston also won their back to back game making teams playing back to back 2-2.


Given Denver's post season last year and the fact they have improved this season, makes them one of the top teams to beat this year. Frankly I don't know if the young Blazers can compete with all that . . . if they do manage to win, it will be because of the coach.

 

[THE HCP]

If we lose tonight, it is my opinion it will be because Denver scored more points then us.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

If we lose tonight, it is my opinion it will be because Denver scored more points then us.

And if you would just stop eating for a second, you might actually have a point.

hey don't hate the psoter, hate the MB . . . he said it.

 

[Mediocre Man]

And if we lose tonight, is it only because we have a bad coach?

No.

Someone could get hurt, or be targeted by the refs.

Portland has more talent
Portland is playing at home
Portland had an extra day to prepare
Portland is an 8 point favorite, according to Caesars. (You get 5 just for being the home team in case no one knew that)