Quick: Dont expect anything out of the oridinary today

[OSUBlazerfan]

So, if the Hornets are not willing to make a deal before the draft, but are going to be weighing their options this summer, would you prefer that the Blazers not keep trying to be in the hunt?

same ol dribble from the the team or whoever leaks this stuff out....

nothing will come of it

 

[illmatic99]

KP bashing already? You guys realize there are still 8 hours until draft time?

 

[mgb]

Change for the sake of change is always wrong, but I think people confese change for the better for change for the sake of change.

Hypothetically, turning Aldridge, Rudy, Joel and a draft pick into Bosh is change for the better because you win with the best 5, not you second 5 being better than the other guys second 5. Being patient has got us nowhere, and it's time to start thinking about cutting the cake.

It's gotten us two winning seasons and two playoff appearances. We lost in the first round both times, but it's way to premature to make any drastic changes now. We need to see how we do healthy. We haven't been patience if we make changes now.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

It's gotten us two winning seasons and two playoff appearances. We lost in the first round both times, but it's way to premature to make any drastic changes now. We need to see how we do healthy. We haven't been patience if we make changes now.

Patience is not something that wins in the NBA...its a win now league (a little less than the NFL) but still....

while we were drafting oden, Boston was making they're team better, and as a result, they almost won 2 titles in 3 years....

 

[Wizard Mentor]

And you are aware that a move to get Bosh or another of the free agents through a sign and trade couldn't happen before July, right? The off-season begins today, not ends. Perhaps you should delay your woeful bleatings about the Blazers doing nothing until they actually do nothing.

LOLOLOL

 

[Mediocre Man]

Patience is not something that wins in the NBA...its a win now league (a little less than the NFL) but still....

while we were drafting oden, Boston was making they're team better, and as a result, they almost won 2 titles in 3 years....

Exactly. Boston put themselves in possition to contend by being agressive in trade talks, not through the draft. We have the damn pieces to go get some people, so do it

 

[Mediocre Man]

And you are aware that a move to get Bosh or another of the free agents through a sign and trade couldn't happen before July, right? The off-season begins today, not ends. Perhaps you should delay your woeful bleatings about the Blazers doing nothing until they actually do nothing.

Or I could go by past performance and make a decision that way. KP is an active draft day GM. Singing FA's and making big trades has not been his forte. See last year when we settled for Miller, and Raef's expiring "best trade chip in NBA history" contract that we did nothing with

 

[e_blazer]

Or I could go by past performance and make a decision that way. KP is an active draft day GM. Singing FA's and making big trades has not been his forte.

And, as I intimated in my reply to jlprk, what does KP's past record have to do with what the probable new GM will do this summer?

 

[RoyToy]

Later this summer? is that with all the cap space they have? Is that with all of ther FA's banging down the doors at 1 center court to play in a small market with shitty weather during basketball season? Unless later this summer means after July 1st when the ppp contracts settle in.

Can't wait for the we like our team speach

Except he's been trying to make some big trades all week....

 

[hasoos]

I don't think a lot of the folks here are aware of what is going on in the Hornets situation. George Shinn is trying to sell the Hornets, but they have been having a hard time finding that happy middle spot where both sides can get the deal done. If they do not get the sale together, Shinn will definitly move Paul. The other side of the coin being, Shinn can threaten to trade Paul so he isn't there when they buy, and force the sale to go through earlier. So it might just be playing Paul Allen as leverage. But it might also be a reality if he can't come to an agreement on the selling price of the team with new ownership.

 

[Ed O]

Exactly. Boston put themselves in possition to contend by being agressive in trade talks, not through the draft. We have the damn pieces to go get some people, so do it

Boston started off with Paul Pierce, who's still probably their best player. That's a pretty good starting point.

The Blazers, after Nash, had NOTHING. He had given away Wallace and Wells and extended Miles and Ratliff for way too much money. Zach had issues, clearly, and was paid like he didn't.

This team has been one of the youngest in the NBA for the last two season and has been ravaged by injuries, and yet it has been pretty successful. I don't see the last two years as anything resembling a failure.

Ed O.

 

[Minstrel]

KP spent the first few years assembling a good young roster. It appears now that he'd like to make a consolidation trade to put the team over the top, but those are easier called for than done. Just as we know that the team getting the best player in the deal tends to "win" the deal long-term, I assume most GMs understand that history too. That makes pulling off such a deal hard (though not impossible, clearly).

I don't see any problem with Pritchard's philosophy or direction. Whether he can make that "one big move" that creates a title team...well, we'll have to see. Apparently, Paul Allen is only giving him one shot to do it. Which, from a basketball perspective, seems ridiculous...but, obviously, I have no idea what personal issues may be in play.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Boston started off with Paul Pierce, who's still probably their best player. That's a pretty good starting point.

The Blazers, after Nash, had NOTHING. He had given away Wallace and Wells and extended Miles and Ratliff for way too much money. Zach had issues, clearly, and was paid like he didn't.

This team has been one of the youngest in the NBA for the last two season and has been ravaged by injuries, and yet it has been pretty successful. I don't see the last two years as anything resembling a failure.

Ed O.

Boston started off with Pierce, and added Allen and KG through trades.

Why can't Portland do the same? Portland has Roy, and one would think they have at least as good of pieces to trade as the Celtics did.

 

[RoyToy]

Boston started off with Pierce, and added Allen and KG through trades.

Why can't Portland do the same? Portland has Roy, and one would think they have at least as good of pieces to trade as the Celtics did.

KG took Al Jefferson/Gomes/Telfair/some more

Allen took at least the #5 pick+ more

Blazers don't have that. Portland's trying to do with expiring contracts.

 

[illmatic99]

Blazers & Thunder working hard to get into lottery. Big-picture perspective: PORT still aggressive despite cutting Pritchard off at knees.

 

[Minstrel]

Why can't Portland do the same? Portland has Roy, and one would think they have at least as good of pieces to trade as the Celtics did.

Because there isn't always a team willing to dump a Hall of Famer. Such deals always have an element of luck involved, that a GM has to be ready to turn into opportunity. It's not like there's always a Kevin Garnett available. There are intelligent, aggressive GMs in the league even if you don't believe Pritchard is one...if such players were always available, you'd see deals like that all the time.

 

[Mediocre Man]

But there are teams like that.

Tony Parker is said to be available

Chris Paul is said to be available for an extremely high price

Andre Iguadala is said to be available

Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Joe Johnson are all available for the right price to their teams, and a quality selling job by our front office

There are a lot of teams that are in dire financial shape. If the price were right, Portland could get them. The problem is, to this point, Portland has been unwilling to give up anything of value to make this happen.


KG took Jefferson , Gomes, Telfair and more.

Bosh or Nowitzki for Aldridge, Batum, Bayless and #22. That could happen if Bosh would agree to come here. No way KP woul dnake that move though, and most in here would cry that it was too much.

Go big or go home...in the playoffs

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Fuck you, Quick!

I knew he would do this: Get hopes sky high and then dash 'em.

 

[OddEnormous]

But there are teams like that.

Tony Parker is said to be available

Chris Paul is said to be available for an extremely high price

Andre Iguadala is said to be available

Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Joe Johnson are all available for the right price to their teams, and a quality selling job by our front office

There are a lot of teams that are in dire financial shape. If the price were right, Portland could get them. The problem is, to this point, Portland has been unwilling to give up anything of value to make this happen.


KG took Jefferson , Gomes, Telfair and more.

Bosh or Nowitzki for Aldridge, Batum, Bayless and #22. That could happen if Bosh would agree to come here. No way KP woul dnake that move though, and most in here would cry that it was too much.

Go big or go home...in the playoffs

God you must be fucking unbearable in person.

 

[Blaze01]

All he said was "likely" no big trade for a vet on draft day...I though it was a whole bunch of nothing...

Basically....Don't expect a deal for Chris Paul or the like, except maybe during the draft....lol...Way to cover all the bases there....

Of course he didn't say anything about POR trading up in the draft which seems likely....

 

[BrianFromWA]

Man, if I actually had given Quick credibility, I'd be hurting right now. Is that what his "sources" tell him? We'll do nothing...or maybe not?

Oh well. Each scoop of chum in the water gets Denny closer to his 3rd Ferrari.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

But there are teams like that.

Tony Parker is said to be available

Chris Paul is said to be available for an extremely high price

Andre Iguadala is said to be available

Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Joe Johnson are all available for the right price to their teams, and a quality selling job by our front office

There are a lot of teams that are in dire financial shape. If the price were right, Portland could get them. The problem is, to this point, Portland has been unwilling to give up anything of value to make this happen.


KG took Jefferson , Gomes, Telfair and more.

Bosh or Nowitzki for Aldridge, Batum, Bayless and #22. That could happen if Bosh would agree to come here. No way KP woul dnake that move though, and most in here would cry that it was too much.

Go big or go home...in the playoffs

Boston is not a fair comparison. It is Rondo that makes that team good. If they trade Rondo instead of Telfair, they are probably a first round flameout team that you despise.

 

[illmatic99]

Mark (PDX)
Any idea what's up with the Blazers? Are they making a big trade? Will KP still be the GM in 24 hours? Will Fernandez still be a Blazer in 6 hours?

Chad Ford
KP is trying. Love him. The guy is not going down without a fight. He's trying to move up, get a veteran, you name it. Looks like the Fernandez to the Raptors deal has cooled. As for Pritchard's future, let's just say his bags are packed.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/33085

 

[Minstrel]

But there are teams like that.

Tony Parker is said to be available

Chris Paul is said to be available for an extremely high price

Andre Iguadala is said to be available

Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Joe Johnson are all available for the right price to their teams, and a quality selling job by our front office

And yet they're not all being snapped up. If they're so available, why are they still out there? Because all GMs are as passive and silly as Pritchard?

Making a deal that works for both teams isn't as easy as it apparently seems to you.

 

[Mediocre Man]

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/33085

Cause KP is trying, but not succeeding in making a big splash with a trade. His forte, and it's a good one, is drafting. I can think of really 1 deal that he has made non draft day that really benefitted this team

 

[MickZagger]

Cause KP is trying, but not succeeding in making a big splash with a trade. His forte, and it's a good one, is drafting. I can think of really 1 deal that he has made non draft day that really benefitted this team

Marcus Camby didn't benefit the team?

 

[barfo]

Cause KP is trying, but not succeeding in making a big splash with a trade. His forte, and it's a good one, is drafting. I can think of really 1 deal that he has made non draft day that really benefitted this team

Good thing it is draft day today, then.

barfo

 

[Mediocre Man]

Marcus Camby didn't benefit the team?

I can think of really 1 deal that he has made non draft day that really benefitted this team

Yep

 

[crandc]

Or I could go by past performance and make a decision that way. KP is an active draft day GM. Singing FA's and making big trades has not been his forte. See last year when we settled for Miller, and Raef's expiring "best trade chip in NBA history" contract that we did nothing with

Frankly, MM, I could not care less if the FA can sing, as long as he can play.

(sorry, couldn't resist, still friends?)

 

[RoyToy]

But there are teams like that.

Tony Parker is said to be available

Chris Paul is said to be available for an extremely high price

Andre Iguadala is said to be available

Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Joe Johnson are all available for the right price to their teams, and a quality selling job by our front office

There are a lot of teams that are in dire financial shape. If the price were right, Portland could get them. The problem is, to this point, Portland has been unwilling to give up anything of value to make this happen.


KG took Jefferson , Gomes, Telfair and more.

Bosh or Nowitzki for Aldridge, Batum, Bayless and #22. That could happen if Bosh would agree to come here. No way KP woul dnake that move though, and most in here would cry that it was too much.

Go big or go home...in the playoffs

Parker may be, but for the right price. Haven't heard a lot on that front.
CP3 - keeps going back in fourth how available he really is or not.
AI - Blazers don't have the pieces besides expiring contracts. Doubt that's enough.
Bosh/James/JJ are all FA's and get to pick where they want to go.