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craigehlo said:
If he plays well, the Blazers need to extend him during the season. If he refuses to do that, I think the Blazers need to trade him by the deadline.

You can't wait until next summer to see how it plays out IMHO.
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Because he accepted the QO, Oden can veto any trade.
 
ppilot said:
Because he accepted the QO, Oden can veto any trade.
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Good point. I still think it's too much of a risk to wait until the summer.

I see that Tyson Chandler just got an offer for $60 million over 4 years. If greg can stay healthy, he can can break the bank.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
This makes the most sense for everyone. If he stays healthy and plays he will be happy. If he is happy he will re-sign with Portland IMO.

If he can't make it through the year then he will be frustrated and leave. But in that case we would not want to sign him to a new contract anyway.
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This is a pretty astute comment. If Oden stays healthy, the fans will love him. He should want to stay in my opinion and help build a really good team. If he decides to leave at that point, he was never really going to stay anyway. If he is injured or plays like crap, then he will leave. The QO is not a bad deal in this case.
 
magnifier661 said:
You would think he can, now that I think about it. It's like Melo last season, Howard and Paul this season. They can sign and trade; which means contracts can be negotiated during the season.
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yeah i just want to be sure, like there isnt any shenanigans about not being able to on a QO
 
ppilot said:
If Oden really wanted to stay in Portland, this entire process would have played out differently. For people wanting Oden in Portland this was the worst case scenario as the Blazers have no leverage.
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No the worst case sceanario would have been to sign him to 5 more years and then he gets hurt again this season. Or that another team would have out bid us this year for him.

This is not a bad scenario for Portland. Like I said before, if he plays he will be happy and he will be more inclined to re-sign. If he does not play...........then he is either off our books forever or he re-signs at a very low amount. (Which I doubt would happen)
 
Yesterday, Steve Kerr was on Bill Simmons podcast, and Bill asked Steve if he were still in charge of the Suns, and he could get Oden with a 3 year 30 million dollar contract, would he do it. Steve's response "in a heartbeat!"
 
Oden did the MRI and now in physical therapy. Hopefully this is great news. Quick says no limping.
 
IMO, this is good for both Greg and the Blazers. He's taking a risk that he will stay healthy and command a big contract this year. But if he does stay healthy, he'll make far more money over his career than if he signed a contract for what the Blazers or any other team would be willing to risk on him this season absent seeing him play and produce. For the Blazers, they get the benefit of a year of play before deciding to commit to a long term max, or near-max, deal. You have to think that Brandon will have mixed feelings about Greg, knowing that if he pans out and the Blazers make Greg a big offer next year, it could pretty much seal the deal as far as amnestying him before next season.
 
If he's signing the QO, then that means no team was willing to offer him enough financial security in a new contract, or the amount of whatever offers he received didn't break the (likely) threshold of the Blazers' willingness to match.

The QO makes a lot of sense then; nearly 9 million guaranteed for one year with a possibility of making 30-40 million more in guaranteed in a new deal.
 
e_blazer said:
IMO, this is good for both Greg and the Blazers. He's taking a risk that he will stay healthy and command a big contract this year. But if he does stay healthy, he'll make far more money over his career than if he signed a contract for what the Blazers or any other team would be willing to risk on him this season absent seeing him play and produce. For the Blazers, they get the benefit of a year of play before deciding to commit to a long term max, or near-max, deal. You have to think that Brandon will have mixed feelings about Greg, knowing that if he pans out and the Blazers make Greg a big offer next year, it could pretty much seal the deal as far as amnestying him before next season.
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I think that all depends on how well we do this season, or how promising our future is. I think everyone agrees that even if Roy has some left in his tank; it's probably only for another 1-2 years. So regardless, he's either leaving medically or we release him. I wish both Roy and Oden the best. Also, I doubt if we look as though we can contend; Allen has no problem paying the penalties for being the best. That even means keeping Roy, LMA and Oden's big contracts.
 
Yeah, I was thinking that even if he just signs a 2 yr veteran minimum after this (because of a 3rd MF, or whatever) it's a guaranteed 3yr, 11-12M deal. And that's at the absolute minimum. Wherever he wants to go.

OTOH, since Tyson Chandler is about to get a 4yr max, if Oden's remotely healthy this year then he'll have no problem getting offers. It's a matter of people having the cap space for him.
 
Greg's been my favorite player since we drafted him, so I'm glad he's coming back this year, but I echo some of the concern from a few as to now not knowing if he'll stay after this year. Hopefully he really does want to stay and just wants to prove he's worth a larger contract. Not sure I could stomach him becoming dominant for someone else...

BrianFromWA said:
At the end of this year, (assuming Greg isn't an MVP, in which case we could offer him more), we can offer Greg 5yr/$85.5M. Other teams signing him can either offer 4/$61.9 max (if they're 14.5M under the cap) or the max MLE, 4/$20.45M.
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But I like reading that.

And at least he's confident he'll increase his value this year.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
no freaking way he leaves money like that on the table
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and IF he and the rest team stays healthy (BR not included) they should be an elite squad including IMO the best frontcourt in the league.

top dollar + a top team = a very attractive option for Greg

STOMP
 
Since I don't know how to do it, could someone start a poll on where Oden will play next season?
 
magnifier661 said:
Here's hoping that GO forces us to max his ass out! :cheers: Good luck big fella, prove all the naysayers wrong and earn that max contract!
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And that he stays healthy after we max his ass out!
 
ppilot said:
If Oden really wanted to stay in Portland, this entire process would have played out differently. For people wanting Oden in Portland this was the worst case scenario as the Blazers have no leverage.
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Really???? You don't consider the ability to offer an extra year and $23.6 million (that's $23,600,000.00) of guaranteed money "leverage? That sounds like a hell of a lot of leverage to me. For someone with Oden's injury history, that extra year offers a lot of addtional financial security. And that's just the leverage they have over the teams that will be WAY under the salary cap - basically perennial lottery teams. They will have about $65 million worth of leverage over teams that are over the cap (AKA: most contenders). If the Blazers want to keep Oden, they could EASILY outbid any other team by several million dollars and not even max Oden out.

I think this is good for both Greg and the team. It gives him motivation to have a productive season and earn a big contract. And, as we've seen in brief stretches, a productive Oden is a game changer. If Greg is healthy and productive, our front court of Oden, Aldridge, Camby, Wallace and Batum is the best defensive front court in the league and probably the best rebounding, too. Defense and rebounding wins games, especially in the play-offs.

I'm looking forward to seeing this team play. It should be fun. I just wish we had one more year off Andre Miller. Watching him throw alley-oops to both Aldridge and Oden would have been a blast and all those easy baskets would have only helped increase Greg's confidence on offense and his enjoyment of playing in Portland.

BNM
 
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well 1 more year with greg and brandon....

i guess the blazer slogan should be "hold nothing back"

rebuilding begins in 2012
 
Greg has always been a very humble guy. When he first signed his rookie contract, which was many millions a year since he was the #1 pick, he talked about how he only needed to live off a few thousand a month and didn't understand why some people were so greedy and wasteful.

I wonder, does he feel guilty for earning so much already and not living up to expectations of the team, fans, and himself? I think he is far more sensitive to the criticism then people realize, he was 19 when we drafted him and only 23 today. He was a funny outgoing guy who fed off the enthusiasm of the crowd and fans, but the naysayers can also bring him down and make him depressed. He knew if he signed a multi-year deal today no matter the price there would be vocal criticism about how he doesn't deserve squat since he's been injured. I think he likes the idea of having a one year deal so if the local media and fans continue to beat him down he can leave. But if he proves to be an elite big man he can justify earning a new large contract here if he likes the vibe or elsewhere if it would make everybody more happy.
 
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Brock said:
well 1 more year with greg and brandon....

i guess the blazer slogan should be "hold nothing back"

rebuilding begins in 2012
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Since we traded away our 2013 pick we should really hold off for two seasons.
 
One and done.

Greg Oden will be an UFA this coming up summer.

Great.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
That doesn't matter if Greg wants to leave.
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Really??? He'd have to really want out of Portland to give up potentially $26 million and and extra year of guaranteed money - if healthy and productive. If he's not healthy and productive, do we really care if he leaves? If Portland really wants to keep him, they will have huge financial advanages over every other team in the league.

BNM
 
gregs gone....

the crazy thing is, if he get hurt that might help the blazers resign him. crazy how things work. this might be the year u hope for injury.
 
jwquick Jason Quick
Greg Oden says he has been given clearance to cut, pivot and shoot when Blazers open training camp Friday, but no clearance for full contact
 
Brock said:
gregs gone....

the crazy thing is, if he get hurt that might help the blazers resign him. crazy how things work. this might be the year u hope for injury.
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Um, no. I never hope for injury. Never.
 
jwquick Jason Quick

Greg Oden says he has been given clearance to cut, pivot and shoot when Blazers open training camp Friday, but no clearance for full contact
 
SlyPokerDog said:
jwquick Jason Quick

Greg Oden says he has been given clearance to cut, pivot and shoot when Blazers open training camp Friday, but no clearance for full contact
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Cut, pivot and shoot? What about running and jumping?
 
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