Quick hits the nail on the hid

[Natebishop3]

Posted in another thread but deserves its own run.

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...nsider_its_time_to_shed_hopes_get_a_look.html

Why this franchise feels indebted to keep playing this guy, I have no idea. There is nothing left to see from Felton, whose attitude and play has been the single biggest torpedo to this sinking season. The franchise owes him nothing, not after he committed the most unprofessional of acts -- coming to training camp overweight and out of shape, then blaming his poor play on the coach. All the while, he was a whispering cancer in the ears of Gerald Wallace, Marcus Camby and even to a degree Smith.

He is owed nothing except for an escort to a comfy seat on the bench.

And more importantly

For every day this team convinces itself it can make the playoffs, it cheats itself of a day to gather information to make this franchise better down the road. Because every day this franchise believes it has a shot in the next 17 games to overtake Minnesota, Phoenix, Denver and Houston, it means it will continue to play Raymond Felton at point guard, thwarting the chance to chase something real: clues about what youngsters Nolan Smith and Jonny Flynn have to offer long term.

Boom goes the dynamite!

 

[oldmangrouch]

When Quick is the voice of reason, that is a bad sign.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I agree with Quick and I am angry that no one in management has the balls to make sure the team is able to evaluate these two in the remaining games.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

This is a point where it seems Paul Allen himself needs to step in; surely he must be able to see what is happening and realize the longterm destructive effects.

 

[alex42083]

All signs pointed toward a rebuild at the trade deadline, but they are half-assing it and not sure which direction to go to... Management and the actual team have different agendas.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's obvious to me that the problem is Coach K. I honestly don't fault him because he wants to win, show what he can do, etc, but he's hurting the team by starting his best players. We need to see the young guys and wins really don't matter right now.

 

[jlprk]

Smith in limited time this season has shown...locker-room likeability, an important trait for a point guard...Flynn has been enticing. He is blur-quick and seems to have that certain "it" on the court -- the combination of swagger, moxie and confidence...

Instead, we will get more Felton, of whom I've seen enough. Why this franchise feels indebted to keep playing this guy, I have no idea. There is nothing left to see from Felton, whose attitude and play has been the single biggest torpedo to this sinking season. The franchise owes him nothing, not after he committed the most unprofessional of acts -- coming to training camp overweight and out of shape, then blaming his poor play on the coach. All the while, he was a whispering cancer in the ears of Gerald Wallace, Marcus Camby and even to a degree Smith. He is owed nothing except for an escort to a comfy seat on the bench.

The only reason I can figure on why Felton hasn't been exiled to the bench is league-wide perception. The Blazers figure to be a player in the free-agent market this summer, with upwards of $20 million to lure players to Portland. The team is always conscious of how agents and players view them as a destination.

You can always count on Quick for poetic speculation--not hard technical analysis--using innuendo, body language, how friendly the player is to Quick, how the league perceives us--anything but analysis using basketball knowledge, of which the worst beat writer in the league has none.

Quick is, to paraphrase the above, the cancer bellowing his personal little childish fears into our ears. Everyone knows that McMillan has been clueless on how to use every point guard he has ever had. Everyone knows that Felton plays fat and always has. When they evaluate him before obtaining him, they factor it in. That's part of the deal. Our management knew it before trading for him, before them Denver management did, before that New York, before that Charlotte when they made him the 5th pick overall...to cry now and pretend no one knew he'd be fat is just asinine.

That seems to be the only verifiable charge in the article against Felton. Quick is the only source for Felton saying a word or two against the awful coach, which of course would have been the truth even had it been said. Quick refuses to source or even give the hypothetical quote, in his usual cowardly style. Just read the excerpt above. Quick's praise for Smith and Flynn, and criticism of Felton, are all concerns of a touchy-feely woman. Just read it again. What kind of a rotten-to-the-core paper makes that dick their beat writer, and for the cherry on top of their pansy sweetcake, tops it off with a hater moralist Prohibitionist like Canzano.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Well, whether quick is a gossip monger or not; I still do not see how felton can be here after this season and I think it would be beneficial to the team to evaluate Flynn and Smith.

 

[KingSpeed]

Evaluate the guys in summer league. That's what it's for. Now is winning time.

 

[Natebishop3]

Evaluate the guys in summer league. That's what it's for. Now is winning time.

Flynn and Thabeet won't be here for summer league. Flynn could be a good player, but we won't know because he hasn't even sniffed the court since he got here.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's sad this team isn't going full speed into the rebuilding mode they so desperately need. The Blazers barely beat David Lee and a bunch of D leaguers at home. They need to stop fooling themselves

 

[KingSpeed]

It's sad this team isn't going full speed into the rebuilding mode they so desperately need. The Blazers barely beat David Lee and a bunch of D leaguers at home. They need to stop fooling themselves

They beat the Bulls and the Grizzlies too.

 

[KingSpeed]

Flynn and Thabeet won't be here for summer league. Flynn could be a good player, but we won't know because he hasn't even sniffed the court since he got here.

He actually did play a short stint and looked decent picking up 2 assists. I think we will see more from him before the season is over.

 

[BlazerBeav]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think I've seen enough of Nolan Smith to know that he is not now, nor ever will be, a quality PG in the NBA.

 

[ppilot]

Evaluate the guys in summer league. That's what it's for. Now is winning time.

Summer league is absolutely horrible for evaluating NBA talent compared to actual game experience.

 

[HailBlazers]

You can always count on Quick for poetic speculation--not hard technical analysis--using innuendo, body language, how friendly the player is to Quick, how the league perceives us--anything but analysis using basketball knowledge, of which the worst beat writer in the league has none.

Quick is, to paraphrase the above, the cancer bellowing his personal little childish fears into our ears. Everyone knows that McMillan has been clueless on how to use every point guard he has ever had. Everyone knows that Felton plays fat and always has. When they evaluate him before obtaining him, they factor it in. That's part of the deal. Our management knew it before trading for him, before them Denver management did, before that New York, before that Charlotte when they made him the 5th pick overall...to cry now and pretend no one knew he'd be fat is just asinine.

That seems to be the only verifiable charge in the article against Felton. Quick is the only source for Felton saying a word or two against the awful coach, which of course would have been the truth even had it been said. Quick refuses to source or even give the hypothetical quote, in his usual cowardly style. Just read the excerpt above. Quick's praise for Smith and Flynn, and criticism of Felton, are all concerns of a touchy-feely woman. Just read it again. What kind of a rotten-to-the-core paper makes that dick their beat writer, and for the cherry on top of their pansy sweetcake, tops it off with a hater moralist Prohibitionist like Canzano.

Lol, from one writer to another you hit the Nail on the Head here, not quick.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Although already posted, this is the best Quick quote (maybe the only one) that was 100% spot on:

Instead, we will get more Felton, of whom I've seen enough.

Why this franchise feels indebted to keep playing this guy, I have no idea. There is nothing left to see from Felton, whose attitude and play has been the single biggest torpedo to this sinking season. The franchise owes him nothing, not after he committed the most unprofessional of acts -- coming to training camp overweight and out of shape, then blaming his poor play on the coach. All the while, he was a whispering cancer in the ears of Gerald Wallace, Marcus Camby and even to a degree Smith.

He is owed nothing except for an escort to a comfy seat on the bench.

 

[Mediocre Man]

More so than Felton, I have no idea what the love affair with Crawchuck is all about. He was horrible last night, so why not try Nolan or Flynn with Felton? It couldn't have been any worse?

 

[illmatic99]

It's a shame he didn't play this way a few weeks prior to the deadline. I'm sure we could have gotten someone to cough up a pick for him.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Evaluate the guys in summer league. That's what it's for. Now is winning time.

LMFAO. Yeah.... summer league. How many guys have flamed out of the league after tearing up summer league.

And how many of us thought that Batum was at least 5 years away from contributing anything after his first summer league?

It's a time to work on and improve one's game. But it's hardly a time to really evaluate players.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Funny. Pretty much everything Quick says in this, I said in another thread on Felton immediately after the trade deadline. But my points were simply points, and didn't have the emotional baggage and feeling of retaliation of a child (Quick) who was just picked on (by Felton). I even touched on the reason they continue to play Felton, which I truly believe is the reason the Blazers feel trapped to play Felton:

The only reason I can figure on why Felton hasn't been exiled to the bench is league-wide perception. The Blazers figure to be a player in the free-agent market this summer, with upwards of $20 million to lure players to Portland. The team is always conscious of how agents and players view them as a destination.

Felton is garbage. People are impressed with him, suddenly (not most of the posters here, but he seems to have caused some intrigue with the common fan). A few solid games when we're out of playoff contention hasn't changed my impression on him.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I expected nothing less of this organization that to screw up rebuilding

 

[Sinobas]

I'm sure 99% of Blazer fans, including me, totally agree with Quick. I don't care so much about seeing Thabeet, but we could have something in Flynn. He's got a 5 mil team option next year, and we need to see what we've got.

 

[Wheels]

They beat the Bulls and the Grizzlies too.

A Lower seeded Western team, and a team without its League MVP. Color me excited.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I'm sure 99% of Blazer fans, including me, totally agree with Quick. I don't care so much about seeing Thabeet, but we could have something in Flynn. He's got a 5 mil team option next year, and we need to see what we've got.

No he doesn't. Houston already turned that down (for Thabeet as well). So both are FA's after the year (and unrestricted).

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

A Lower seeded Western team, and a team without its League MVP. Color me excited.

The Bulls beat the Heat without Rose just a night or two before.

And Memphis was #4 in the West before that loss, and LAC/Dallas wins.

Just sayin'.

 

[HailBlazers]

Quick: The only reason I can figure on why Felton hasn't been exiled to the bench is league-wide perception. The Blazers figure to be a player in the free-agent market this summer, with upwards of $20 million to lure players to Portland. The team is always conscious of how agents and players view them as a destination.

If anything this statement should clue you in to how clueless JQuick really is.

Although already posted, this is the best Quick quote (maybe the only one) that was 100% spot on:

Instead, we will get more Felton, of whom I've seen enough. Why this franchise feels indebted to keep playing this guy, I have no idea. There is nothing left to see from Felton, whose attitude and play has been the single biggest torpedo to this sinking season. The franchise owes him nothing, not after he committed the most unprofessional of acts -- coming to training camp overweight and out of shape, then blaming his poor play on the coach. All the while, he was a whispering cancer in the ears of Gerald Wallace, Marcus Camby and even to a degree Smith. He is owed nothing except for an escort to a comfy seat on the bench.

100% Spot on in matching you view. This Franchise Feels indebted to Felton? Really??? Riight.

And as far as cancer goes, if anyone is the cancer its Jquick, perpetuating rumors to no end.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

If anything this statement should clue you in to how clueless JQuick really is.



100% Spot on in matching you view. This Franchise Feels indebted to Felton? Really??? Riight.

And as far as the cancer goes, if anyone is the cancer is Jquick, spreading rumors to no end based on nothing but his own towel boy perception.

I'm not so sure.

We do know that Felton was unhappy and someone rallied a cancer on the team that involved Camby and Wallace.

We will disagree on this one. Failton is a loser and a quitter and a cancer. The sooner his sorry ass is out the better.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

If anything this statement should clue you in to how clueless JQuick really is.

How so? I totally disagree with you, but since I have no idea what your thinking is here, or reason for your thoughts, I'll just simply say I disagree with you. And, IMO, you're wrong.

That really is the only reason I can find as to why we'd play Felton, and I said so a long time ago. You black ball a player, hurt his value.... his agent will not allow his players to come to your team. And the player and agent spread the word amongst other players and agents. "Don't go to Portland - they will fuck over your value." Or "Portland is a shitty organization to deal with." It happens all the time in sports, really.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I expected nothing less of this organization that to screw up rebuilding

Look at any organization be it a company or a sports team, the only thing that is truly crippling is having people in a position of authority with no commitment to whatever vision about where they want to be or where they want to go. You end up with a kludge of half-measures and false starts that usually won't add up to a popcorn fart.

All of the moves they made at the trade deadline were clearly the things you do when you've decided to blow it up, so live with the fucking decision and do all of the other steps that come after it; don't half-ass it by continuing to ride Felton when you absolutely know he's not coming back and you have important decisions to make on Smith and Flynn -- decisions that can't wait until the summer because of contract situations and needing to know what you have before you get to the draft or free agency.

This is like being lost in the woods and having to choose between waiting it out for a rescue or choosing to find your own way out. You can't (or shouldn't) do both.