Racial chitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

[craigehlo]

I don't think what Cuban said is at all racist. Is it racial? Sure, but it's not racist.

It's racist. He didn't say a white kid in a hoodie, he said a black kid.

I don't think he's a terrible guy for admitting his own flaws, but let's not gloss over what he said.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

AS A PRIVILEGED MINORITY, I CANNOT SPEAK OR POST IN THIS THREAD. THEREFORE I WILL SIT IN THE CORNER AND WALLOW IN MY PRIVILEGE.

 

[blue32]

Ahh, the DVISS1 "check your privs" argument. Lovely. Typical.... so typical.

 

[blue32]

AS A PRIVILEGED MINORITY, I CANNOT SPEAK OR POST IN THIS THREAD. THEREFORE I WILL SIT IN THE CORNER AND WALLOW IN MY PRIVILEGE.

No, you must get on your soapbox and berate all of the Whites in this forum for not understanding how they need to check their own privilege!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

WHITE PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO POST ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD.

 

[blue32]

The minute White people as a whole understand the privilege it is to be White in our society, is the minute all this will start to get better.
Empathy is where it starts. White people will never understand what it is like to be followed when you are in a store just because you have your hands in your pockets...

Dude, its the same shit when whites go into a store owned by Chinese, or Hispanics go into a store owned by Black; fuck just insert 2 different colors of people at any given time and you will have people eye-balling each other.

People don't trust other people, and people have a harder time trusting people of different cultures/races. It's how it is for ALL. Now spare me the bullshit.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Dude, its the same shit when whites go into a store owned by Chinese, or Hispanics go into a store owned by Black; fuck just insert 2 different colors of people at any given time and you will have people eye-balling each other.

People don't trust other people, and people have a harder time trusting people of different cultures/races. It's how it is for ALL. Now spare me the bullshit.

So you're saying that if I go down to my local Asian market and walk around the aisles with my hands in my pockets, I'll gain an understanding of what it's like to be mistrusted because of my skin color?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So you're saying that if I go down to my local Asian market and walk around the aisles with my hands in my pockets, I'll gain an understanding of what it's like to be mistrusted because of my skin color?

YOU HAVE NO LOCAL ASIAN MARKET. THERE ARE PLACES ONLY WE KNOW ABOUT.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

YOU HAVE NO LOCAL ASIAN MARKET. THERE ARE PLACES ONLY WE KNOW ABOUT.

YOU ASIANS HIDE THE REAL ASIAN FOOD FROM ME BECAUSE I'M WHITE?! THAT'S RACIST!!

 

[blue32]

So you're saying that if I go down to my local Asian market and walk around the aisles with my hands in my pockets, I'll gain an understanding of what it's like to be mistrusted because of my skin color?

It most likely can happen. About the same chance as what he's constantly claiming.

Just like if a white person were to go into a predominantly black neighborhood store/bar/establishment. They would certainly be getting some 'looks'. This whole 'privilege' shit needs to go.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

YOU ASIANS HIDE THE REAL ASIAN FOOD FROM ME BECAUSE I'M WHITE?! THAT'S RACIST!!

WE ALSO DON'T USE PICTURE MENUS AT THE CHINESE RESTAURANT.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

YOU HAVE NO LOCAL ASIAN MARKET. THERE ARE PLACES ONLY WE KNOW ABOUT.

The old PCC on 82nd ave is one giant asian market.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Dude, its the same shit when whites go into a store owned by Chinese, or Hispanics go into a store owned by Black; fuck just insert 2 different colors of people at any given time and you will have people eye-balling each other.

People don't trust other people, and people have a harder time trusting people of different cultures/races. It's how it is for ALL. Now spare me the bullshit.

Yes, you're exactly right! One of the worst cases of racism I witnessed directed at my father was at a Chinese restaurant. Two white guys came up to my mother and asked her why she was with some spick and what a terrible example she was providing to her son (me) by dating a wet back. They went on to tell her that she should date her own race and dump the Mexican. This entire time I thought it was just two drunk racist white dudes but now I know it was because we were in a Chinese restaurant.

 

[santeesioux]

Yes, you're exactly right! One of the worst cases of racism I witnessed directed at my father was at a Chinese restaurant. Two white guys came up to my mother and asked her why she was with some spick and what a terrible example she was providing to her son (me) by dating a wet back. They went on to tell her that she should date her own race and dump the Mexican. This entire time I thought it was just two drunk racist white dudes but now I know it was because we were in a Chinese restaurant.

There's a local Chinese place that i get delivery from. The first time i ordered there, the guy bowed to me when i gave him a nice tip, none of the delivery guys have bowed to me since. I never knew i was being a victim of racial repression until i read this post.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

WHEN I BOUGHT SOME TIC TACS FROM THE BLACK SUPERMARKET, THE CASHIER STARTED BREAKDANCING. I DIDN'T TIP HIM.

 

[dviss1]

Dude, its the same shit when whites go into a store owned by Chinese, or Hispanics go into a store owned by Black; fuck just insert 2 different colors of people at any given time and you will have people eye-balling each other.

People don't trust other people, and people have a harder time trusting people of different cultures/races. It's how it is for ALL. Now spare me the bullshit.

That is a crock of SHIT.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The old PCC on 82nd ave is one giant asian market.

 

[dviss1]

So you're saying that if I go down to my local Asian market and walk around the aisles with my hands in my pockets, I'll gain an understanding of what it's like to be mistrusted because of my skin color?

Not at all. What I'm saying is that you (if you're white) wouldn't be followed around and treated like you want to steal. How hard is that to understand?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Not at all. What I'm saying is that you (if you're white) wouldn't be followed around and treated like you want to steal. How hard is that to understand?

I understand that it would be incredibly frustrating. This is meant as a real question and not a smart ass question. What are the crime statistics for robbery? Maybe that has something to do with it?

 

[dviss1]

I understand that it would be incredibly frustrating. This is meant as a real question and not a smart ass question. What are the crime statistics for robbery? Maybe that has something to do with it?

Instead of looking up those statistics, look up the poverty statistics and you will see why crime is where it is.

Edit: I also think it's a bull argument to talk about crime rates and racism in the same breath.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Instead of looking up those statistics, look up the poverty statistics and you will see why crime is where it is.

Edit: I also think it's a bull argument to talk about crime rates and racism in the same breath.

I was speaking strictly to your comment about being followed around and treated like you are a thief.

 

[dviss1]

I was speaking strictly to your comment about being followed around and treated like you are a thief.

I don't think the crime statistics have anything to do with it. Again, I think it's a bull argument to talk about crime rates and racism in the same breath.
Besides, the stop and frisk numbers speak for themselves:

In 2013, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 191,558 times.
169,252 were totally innocent (88 percent).
104,958 were black (56 percent).
55,191 were Latino (29 percent).
20,877 were white (11 percent).

 

[PapaG]

So you're saying that if I go down to my local Asian market and walk around the aisles with my hands in my pockets, I'll gain an understanding of what it's like to be mistrusted because of my skin color?

No, first you'll have to believe that you're being distrusted solely because of your skin color.

Maybe the store owner is distrustful in general of all people with their hands in their pockets.

 

[MarAzul]

Not at all. What I'm saying is that you (if you're white) wouldn't be followed around and treated like you want to steal. How hard is that to understand?

Sounds good to me.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I don't think the crime statistics have anything to do with it. Again, I think it's a bull argument to talk about crime rates and racism in the same breath.
Besides, the stop and frisk numbers speak for themselves:

In 2013, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 191,558 times.
169,252 were totally innocent (88 percent).
104,958 were black (56 percent).
55,191 were Latino (29 percent).
20,877 were white (11 percent).

I went and looked at some stats, and it shows the majority of street crimes and violent crimes are committed by black people. That certainly doesn't mean all black people commit crimes, but it helps explain why black people are profiled. Is it right? No, but my parents owned a convenience store when I was a kid and it was robbed 3 times. All 3 times it was by a black person. My parents started to assume every black person coming into the store was there to rob them, and I'm not sure how you can fault them for that.

 

[blue32]

That is a crock of SHIT.

And so is your proclamation that every time a black person goes into a store with his hands in his pockets hes eyeballed.

 

[blue32]

No, first you'll have to believe that you're being distrusted solely because of your skin color.

Maybe the store owner is distrustful in general of all people with their hands in their pockets.

This is pretty much my point with the whole different races of people in different stores.

 

[blue32]

I went and looked at some stats, and it shows the majority of street crimes and violent crimes are committed by black people. That certainly doesn't mean all black people commit crimes, but it helps explain why black people are profiled. Is it right? No, but my parents owned a convenience store when I was a kid and it was robbed 3 times. All 3 times it was by a black person. My parents started to assume every black person coming into the store was there to rob them, and I'm not sure how you can fault them for that.

We're predisposed as pattern-seeking mammals. Negative outcome patterns, we adjust. Simple as that. It's a defense mechanism at that point.

 

[Mediocre Man]

We're predisposed as pattern-seeking mammals. Negative outcome patterns, we adjust. Simple as that. It's a defense mechanism at that point.

Seems like too many big words for me to understand

 

[dviss1]

And so is your proclamation that every time a black person goes into a store with his hands in his pockets hes eyeballed.

You wouldn't know. But I sure would.