Racial chitstorm part II, the Mark Cuban edition

[Mediocre Man]

You wouldn't know. But I sure would.

I think this is a little unfair.

At least for me, if I see a black man in a suit and a white man in a suit, I see a man in a suit. If I see a black man with jeans around his ass walking like he's been shot and "looking tough" and a white man dressed the same way I see a man I need to wary of. I'm not sure it's as much a color thing as much as an image thing.

For me anyway, the one group of people I have the most wide spread bias over are middle eastern people. If I am flying somewhere, I HATE when middle eastern people get on my plane. Fair? Absolutely not. But because middle eastern people blew up planes, I feel uneasy. Stop blowing shit up ad I have no problem with you.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I think this is a little unfair.

At least for me, if I see a black man in a suit and a white man in a suit, I see a man in a suit. If I see a black man with jeans around his ass walking like he's been shot and "looking tough" and a white man dressed the same way I see a man I need to wary of. I'm not sure it's as much a color thing as much as an image thing.

For me anyway, the one group of people I have the most wide spread bias over are middle eastern people. If I am flying somewhere, I HATE when middle eastern people get on my plane. Fair? Absolutely not. But because middle eastern people blew up planes, I feel uneasy. Stop blowing shit up ad I have no problem with you.

I'm sure they'll petition the King of the Brown People and get that on the agenda.

 

[Cryptkeeper]

I'm sure they'll petition the King of the Brown People and get that on the agenda.

HAHAHAHAA

 

[blue32]

You wouldn't know. But I sure would.

How do you know what race I am? Is my viewpoint on this unsatisfactory for your cause, thus you assume?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

How do you know what race I am? Is my viewpoint on this unsatisfactory for your cause, thus you assume?

Based on your screen name, I assume you are Na'vi.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Based on your screen name, I assume you are Na'vi.

Damn you. That's brilliant

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'm sure they'll petition the King of the Brown People and get that on the agenda.

Hahaha

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Not at all. What I'm saying is that you (if you're white) wouldn't be followed around and treated like you want to steal. How hard is that to understand?

That is not true. I've been followed around stores. I've been asked if I can afford something before I bought it. One time a black guy started cussing me and a friend out because he thought we were store security and we were following him. He stereotyped us LOL. I get what you are saying though. I have to go a couple days without shaving before I start getting followed or watched closely.

 

[blue32]

That is not true. I've been followed around stores. I've been asked if I can afford something before I bought it. One time a black guy started cussing me and a friend out because he thought we were store security and we were following him. He stereotyped us LOL. I get what you are saying though. I have to go a couple days without shaving before I start getting followed or watched closely.

Which was my point exactly. It happens to EVERYONE at some point in life. Yet, dviss1 continues to proclaim that white people with their 'privilege' are immune to such prejudice. It's complete nonsense.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Which was my point exactly. It happens to EVERYONE at some point in life. Yet, dviss1 continues to proclaim that white people with their 'privilege' are immune to such prejudice. It's complete nonsense.

Yeah, I mostly agree with what dviss1 is saying about "white privilege", but he talks about it like we are all presented a card at birth that we can present at any moment to get an advantage over minorities at anytime. I use mine to cut in line at Arby's btw. Racial issues in the USA are some complex shit and not so "black and white."

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I used my White Guy Card to be much less likely to be born into poverty, to have a much greater potential to make 100% of my possible income for a job, to never be stopped in a stop-and-frisk, to be much less likely to be put on a watch list or no-fly list, and to be treated as friendly and non-threatening by default. There's other small advantages that involve personal dignity, but those are too numerous to mention.

It's a nice fucking card, jus' sayin'. Like playing the game on Easy rather than Hard. But if you don't know what difficulty levels there are, I can understand how you can think your level is Hard even if it's Medium.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

I used my White Guy Card to be much less likely to be born into poverty, to have a much greater potential to make 100% of my possible income for a job, to never be stopped in a stop-and-frisk, to be much less likely to be put on a watch list or no-fly list, and to be treated as friendly and non-threatening by default. There's other small advantages that involve personal dignity, but those are too numerous to mention.

It's a nice fucking card, jus' sayin'. Like playing the game on Easy rather than Hard. But if you don't know what difficulty levels there are, I can understand how you can think your level is Hard even if it's Medium.

Well put, excellent post.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I used my White Guy Card to be much less likely to be born into poverty, to have a much greater potential to make 100% of my possible income for a job, to never be stopped in a stop-and-frisk, to be much less likely to be put on a watch list or no-fly list, and to be treated as friendly and non-threatening by default. There's other small advantages that involve personal dignity, but those are too numerous to mention.

It's a nice fucking card, jus' sayin'. Like playing the game on Easy rather than Hard. But if you don't know what difficulty levels there are, I can understand how you can think your level is Hard even if it's Medium.

My daughter was told she was not accepted into a school because they needed to add more diversity, even though her scores were higher. Jus' sayin'

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

My daughter was told she was not accepted into a school because they needed to add more diversity, even though her scores were higher. Jus' sayin'

You don't get to take advantage of the White Guy Card all-day e'ryday.

Just sayin'.

 

[MarAzul]

My daughter was told she was not accepted into a school because they needed to add more diversity, even though her scores were higher. Jus' sayin'

Yep, my daughter applied to Stanford. She was Valedictorian with a 4.0 average and rejected for the reason, "they wanted more diversity". She was pretty angry about it at the time, we had never heard of such a thing then.

She went on to UC and all was well. I was actually even happier than she was after the dust settled, too damn much money to go to Stanford.

 

[MarAzul]

You don't get to take advantage of the White Guy Card all-day e'ryday.

Just sayin'.

Yeah but that card has been pretty well handicapped by some policies. I did Corporate recruiting at several campuses for about 3 years in the early 80s. I did it because I had need for nearly 100 Computer Science
people on projects I had during that time. U of W, Oregon ST, Stanford, Cal Tech, U of Illinois were the schools on my list. Oregon and UC Berkley were also but those schools would not lets us have a recruiting day.

The rules I had to operated with from Corporate was their view of affirmative action. I could make the job offer to White kids with a 3.8 or better grade point average, and the Black kid had to have a 3.2 or better.

The end result of this effort running for three years was to hire no one. I only found one white student with a 3.8 average, at Stanford, he came to the interview more or less on a lark, he had no interest in doing development work. I did find Three black kids with the grades but they scoffed at the idea of working for the 35k a year starting salary of the 80s. There were hundreds of White kids with 3.0 through 3.5 grade point averages that would have been a fine for the jobs I had, but I could not hire them.

In the end I had to cancel two of three project because of inability to staff them. This sort of shit should never happen

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I blame Obama! :MARIS61:

 

[Natebishop3]

This is why the internet is so great.... I would have no idea Dviss was black if he didn't talk about being black. I just hate all you people equally! Isn't it great?

 

[Mediocre Man]

You don't get to take advantage of the White Guy Card all-day e'ryday.

Just sayin'.

Seems unfair since I am a white guy everyday

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yep, my daughter applied to Stanford. She was Valedictorian with a 4.0 average and rejected for the reason, "they wanted more diversity". She was pretty angry about it at the time, we had never heard of such a thing then.

She went on to UC and all was well. I was actually even happier than she was after the dust settled, too damn much money to go to Stanford.

I can't even imagine Stanford costs ...... Yikes

 

[MarAzul]

I blame Obama! :MARIS61:

He was about 22 at the time. Powerful sucker if he had anything to do with mucking up the works.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Seems unfair since I am a white guy everyday

But think about the non-white people here that never had the White Guy Card ever.

 

[blue32]

Yep, my daughter applied to Stanford. She was Valedictorian with a 4.0 average and rejected for the reason, "they wanted more diversity". She was pretty angry about it at the time, we had never heard of such a thing then.

She went on to UC and all was well. I was actually even happier than she was after the dust settled, too damn much money to go to Stanford.

WTF they rejected your white privilege card?

 

[MarAzul]

WTF they rejected your white privilege card?

Looks that way. She was accepted at West Point but she rejected that one??? Cost there were real reasonable.

 

[Mediocre Man]

But think about the non-white people here that never had the White Guy Card ever.

You mean the ones that mow my lawn, dry clean my clothes and clean my pool. They all seem happy enough to me


Come to think of it, is it racist of me to have bought tequila, sake and hennessy for their Christmas gifts?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

You mean the ones that mow my lawn, dry clean my clothes and clean my pool. They all seem happy enough to me.

How about you ask them directly if they'd rather trade places with you?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

My daughter was told she was not accepted into a school because they needed to add more diversity, even though her scores were higher. Jus' sayin'

Cry me a river. You got one problem. Call when you got 98 more.

 

[dviss1]

I used my White Guy Card to be much less likely to be born into poverty, to have a much greater potential to make 100% of my possible income for a job, to never be stopped in a stop-and-frisk, to be much less likely to be put on a watch list or no-fly list, and to be treated as friendly and non-threatening by default. There's other small advantages that involve personal dignity, but those are too numerous to mention.

It's a nice fucking card, jus' sayin'. Like playing the game on Easy rather than Hard. But if you don't know what difficulty levels there are, I can understand how you can think your level is Hard even if it's Medium.

Thank you for this. Excellent post. On of the few in here that actually gets it.

 

[dviss1]

You mean the ones that mow my lawn, dry clean my clothes and clean my pool. They all seem happy enough to me


Come to think of it, is it racist of me to have bought tequila, sake and hennessy for their Christmas gifts?

You should be ashamed of this post... But you aren't so I think that says more about you than it does for the non whites who work for you...

 

[PapaG]

I have a very ethnic last name. Before and after 9/11, I was traveling a lot via commercial flights. I would get pulled out for extra screening, even at the gate, more often than not. Didn't really bother me, and my wife and I still laugh about it now.

Since the profiling thing went away, I have yet to be pulled aside and screen. I haven't changed my last name, and my eastern European dark swarthy look hasn't changed.