Random question (LMA-related)

[Sex Panther]

Long story short, one of my roommates is a Blazers fan, and he told me Aldridge is 'so underrated, i'd take him over your precious Al Horford anyday'.

It actually seems like a fair comparison, but i'd take Horford over Aldridge any day.

1. Would the Blazers pull the trigger, if it were ever presented (Horford for Aldridge + filler assuming Horford gets the near max)?

2. Would YOU like to see Horford rather than Aldridge?

 

[J~Rush]

If Oden is healthy I'd keep Aldridge. If Oden isn't healthy I'd take Horford.

 

[Wheels]

If Oden is healthy I'd keep Aldridge. If Oden isn't healthy I'd take Horford.

^^^

 

[Sex Panther]

Not trying to tip the scale, but Horford can play PF. In fact, that's his true position.

 

[THE HCP]

It's up to Greg's health just like everything else. LA's game is tailor made to fit with Greg! His outside game and lack of rebounding compliments Greg's low post skills and rebounding. I'll stick with LA regardless. Nobody double teams Horford in the post.

 

[Jayps15]

I would trade Aldridge for Horford regardless of Oden's status. Horford's a little better overall defensively, and a much better rebounder. Offensively he doesn't get as many looks as Aldridge but he's much more efficient, they shoot similar percentages on jumpers but Horford works himself inside for higher percentage looks more. All that plus a yr younger and more playoff experience too.

 

[Rhal]

It's up to Greg's health just like everything else. LA's game is tailor made to fit with Greg! His outside game and lack of rebounding compliments Greg's low post skills and rebounding. I'll stick with LA regardless. Nobody double teams Horford in the post.

Pretty much what I think except if Oden isn't healthy I might trade LA for Hordford. I'd have to debate on it and see if LA actually is going to the post more often this season, but if he isn't i'd take Horford.

I'll take Black Griffen over both of them though.

 

[THE HCP]

For our team we need a second option behind Brandon and whether you like it or not, LA score 18 a night. I don't care HOW he does it, he DOES! Horford has NO low post game to speak of whatsoever and does not demand a double team. No thanks.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'll take Black Griffen over both of them though.

What about half-Black Griffin?

 

[THE HCP]

Is he related to Jack BLACK?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

What about half-Black Griffin?

Half-Ginger

 

[THE HCP]

Half-Ginger

Kinda like you FAMS!

 

[MickZagger]

It's up to Greg's health just like everything else. LA's game is tailor made to fit with Greg! His outside game and lack of rebounding compliments Greg's low post skills and rebounding. I'll stick with LA regardless. Nobody double teams Horford in the post.

LaMarcus is worthless when he gets double teamed. He's horrible at passing out of it and he folds if he tries to put the ball on the floor. The only reason he gets double teams is because teams know this and take advantage.

Horfords a better rebounder and defender. Give me his contract and 15 and 10 anyday over LMA's contract and 18 and 7 anyday.

LMA makes nearly double what Horford does.

God, I hope Aldridge proves me wrong this year, I really really do. But I'm not holding my breath.

 

[STOMP]

Not trying to tip the scale, but Horford can play PF. In fact, that's his true position.

thats certainly the size player he projects best at defending, but where in the sets is he most effective on offense? Can he hit the top of the key jumper like a high post player or is he only effective down low where Greg (if healthy) will be?

I'm pretty sure that not wanting too many cooks in the low post kitchen is what the posters you responded to were getting at. I think AH would be a decent offensive frontcourt fit beside LA or Camby... Greg or Joel, not so much

STOMP

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Kinda like you FAMS!

I think I'm 15% ginger at most. My facial hair turns gingery after a certain length in some spots.

 

[Nate Dogg]

I'm getting tired of LA's 15 foot shooters at the top of the key. They barely go in 1/3 of the time.

 

[Natebishop3]

I would just like to see SOME progression from Aldridge this season.

 

[MickZagger]

One of Horfords best assets is his 12-15 foot jumper. He shot 55% from the field last year while Aldridge shot 49%.

Did I mention he makes half what LMA makes?

 

[Sex Panther]

One of Horfords best assets is his 12-15 foot jumper. He shot 55% from the field last year while Aldridge shot 49%.

Did I mention he makes half what LMA makes?

Yeah, Horford is great at hitting the shot in the high post. I actual thing he'd be great with Oden. He's a far superior rebounder (and defender) to Aldridge, and I personally think they don'tr run enough plays for him in hotlanta.

To be fair though, this is also under the assumption that he gets around 14-15 mil a season next year to around near the max.

 

[DeanMoriarty]

Aldridge may be underrated but Horford more so. Wouldn't trade for him but only because I'm a huge LMA supporter.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I would take Horford all day, any day

 

[STOMP]

One of Horfords best assets is his 12-15 foot jumper. He shot 55% from the field last year while Aldridge shot 49%.

a much higher % of his shots come in the low post... where both Greg and Joel reside. Checking out some advanced stats, I was surprised to see that Al's J was about as effective as LA's

Did I mention he makes half what LMA makes?

congrats on being redundant. He entered the league in the same class as Greg and Durant so he's on the tail end of his rookie deal... or, apples and oranges. The way the market has gone since LA resigned, Al's next contract will likely leapfrog LA's by a good amount (see David Lee). Regardless of how large that turns out to be, it's not my money

STOMP

 

[BGrantFan]

One of Horfords best assets is his 12-15 foot jumper. He shot 55% from the field last year while Aldridge shot 49%.

Did I mention he makes half what LMA makes?

Aldridge had 42% eFG last season on jump shots. Horford was at 43%. That said, I do agree that Horford was more efficient on offense. I just don't see him having a huge advantage over Alridge in the outside game. Plus, and this is my observation only, Aldridge tends to take the 19' jumper, while Horford takes a 15' jumper, and they basically hit the same percentage. If Oden is healthy, I'd rather have the guy who can spread the court, which is Aldridge.

http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR13.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0910/09ATL11.HTM

 

[BGrantFan]

a much higher % of his shots come in the low post... where both Greg and Joel reside. Checking out some advanced stats, I was surprised to see that Al's J was about as effective as LA's

STOMP

I was too, but I do think that Aldridge has more range, although I don't have a statistic to add to that point.

 

[hasoos]

For our team we need a second option behind Brandon and whether you like it or not, LA score 18 a night. I don't care HOW he does it, he DOES! Horford has NO low post game to speak of whatsoever and does not demand a double team. No thanks.

You might want to watch Horford play a little bit more before stating he does not have a post game, because he does. All of his buckets come in the paint, and he does have a few go to moves. Is getting a rebound and scoring off of it better than not getting the rebound at all?

Even on the NBATV preview all of the announcers were dogging on Aldridge rebounding and dirty work. All 3. The problem is, Lamarcus doesn't recognize there is a problem. You can have your offense and have your dirty work get done too. You don't have to settle just for one. It cracks me up every year he is like "I want to make the all star team" and then he is disappointed when he doesn't make it. Yet at the same time, he comes in year after year, the same game, no improvement. No more rebounds. You either firgure it out or you don't. If he doesn't figure it out by this year, nothing will ever change for the rest of his career.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I would take Horford all day, any day

Same. That's not to say LMA is a hot plate of garbage, but Horford is the superior all-around talent irrespective of how either might fit in with Oden ... and frankly any approach from here on out that attempts to make Oden the keystone is deeply flawed.

 

[THE HCP]

You might want to watch Horford play a little bit more before stating he does not have a post game, because he does. All of his buckets come in the paint, and he does have a few go to moves. Is getting a rebound and scoring off of it better than not getting the rebound at all?

Even on the NBATV preview all of the announcers were dogging on Aldridge rebounding and dirty work. All 3. The problem is, Lamarcus doesn't recognize there is a problem. You can have your offense and have your dirty work get done too. You don't have to settle just for one. It cracks me up every year he is like "I want to make the all star team" and then he is disappointed when he doesn't make it. Yet at the same time, he comes in year after year, the same game, no improvement. No more rebounds. You either firgure it out or you don't. If he doesn't figure it out by this year, nothing will ever change for the rest of his career.

He has no post moves, he may score in the paint, but it's all hustle and putback! Nothing wrong with that, but it demands no double team which in turn helps out other players. I like Horford, but just not more then LA. And as far as $$$$$ goes, isn't he still on his rookie contract?

 

[Nikolokolus]

He has no post moves, he may score in the paint, but it's all hustle and putback! Nothing wrong with that, but it demands no double team which in turn helps out other players. I like Horford, but just not more then LA. And as far as $$$$$ goes, isn't he still on his rookie contract?

He may not be a polished low post scorer, but he has a helluva face-up game and can put the ball on the floor and drive a little bit, which makes him a much more dangerous threat than Aldridge ... unless of course the new and improved LMA has also added this part of the game to his aresenal (hence the 12 FTAs against Utah the last game).

 

[HailBlazers]

If his teammates would feed him the dam ball early and often he could average that ^^^ I was furious at the Utah game because how slow the ball movement was and how they didn't look to LMA first

 

[BrianFromWA]

wait, did you really just intimate that the teammates over the last two years haven't fed LMA the ball early and often?