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I'm starting to get back into hip hop...well Royce Da 5'9".
 
Greg Oden was at the Teen Choice awards.
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<div class="quote_poster">Legacy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Greg Oden was at the Teen Choice awards.
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So? Greg Oden is still a teen (to our knowledge at least).
 
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So? Greg Oden is still a teen (to our knowledge at least).</div>

I didn't mean it like that. But it was funny as hell cause Ludacris and Chingy said everything while Oden stood there smiling. He was a giant compared to those guys.
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I'm going to a rave on October 5th
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Man, I'm gonna get so chopped
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One of my favourite Hardstyle DJ's (The Prophet) is coming over from the Netherlands to play at it, should be sick.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Legacy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't mean it like that. But it was funny as hell cause Ludacris and Chingy said everything while Oden stood there smiling. He was a giant compared to those guys.
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Lol, I saw it. The Pet Shop boys sounds horrible live. Oden was like yea.....I'm gunna try out for High School Musical 3.
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I can't wait till next year. They are coming out with a new ride at Wonderland called the Behemeth, and it has an 85 degree drop and is over 5,500 feet long (1660 Metres i think) It gets up to 125Kph in under 3.5 seconds. Man, I'm gunna be first in line for that ride.
 
That's nothing compared to the Kingda Ka in Six Flags Great Adventure (in NJ). It goes from 0 to 206 km/h (128 mph) in 3.5 seconds, with a 90 degree drop from the top (which is 456 feet/139.5 meters high). It's 3,118 feet (950 meters) long and it's about a 28 second ride. The tallest and faster roller coaster in the world, and I was on it in the first row with my friend a year ago. It was awesome, and luckily we used a Fast Pass and shortened the line (we still had to wait around an hour though, the regular line was around 4 and a half hours long). The lines can reach 5 or even 6 hours some days.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm starting to get back into hip hop...well Royce Da 5'9".</div>

Let's Grow and Life are my favourite songs by him. I love him as an artist, dude is so damn underrated. He has the exact same flowing style as Eminem almost, and most of his beats are tight as hell. I forgot the album, but one of his albums that released in like 2003 or 2004 is dope as hell. Listen to Let's Grow though, the beat on that track is crazy.

I went to Toronto again last nite and got smashed. I love the downtown atmosphere. They were checkin ID's though so I couldn't buy alchohol straight up myself but I obviously got my share and got drunk. I sobered up faster then my other friends though, those dudes were ****** out of thier minds, to the point where they'd do beyond stupid ****. Alchohol brings memories, but it also brings dangerous ass situations like the what some of my friends did yesterday.

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I can't wait till next year. They are coming out with a new ride at Wonderland called the Behemeth, and it has an 85 degree drop and is over 5,500 feet long (1660 Metres i think) It gets up to 125Kph in under 3.5 seconds. Man, I'm gunna be first in line for that ride.
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Man, Wonderland sucks. I used to love it before but now it's like the same rides over and over again. This new ride your talkin about sounds tight though, I'll check it out next summer. My favourite ride was and always will be Psyclone, that ride is so chillin its not even funny. Vortex and Psyclone are the ****. None of those rides are scary anymore but I used to hate going on the Bat and Cliffhanger when I was younger.

Timbaland's album is not bad. I like some of the songs on there, but his beats are tight as hell. Some of them are starting to sound eerily similar though, but they're great nonetheless.

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She was there with her Canadian friend from Toronto who was pretty hot also
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Of course man, you can't expect less of the chicks Canada produces
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<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">


Man, Wonderland sucks. I used to love it before but now it's like the same rides over and over again. This new ride your talkin about sounds tight though, I'll check it out next summer. My favourite ride was and always will be Psyclone, that ride is so chillin its not even funny. Vortex and Psyclone are the ****. None of those rides are scary anymore but I used to hate going on the Bat and Cliffhanger when I was younger.




Of course man, you can't expect less of the chicks Canada produces
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Yea, I get board of wonderland, but I still like it. Psyclone is bomb. Sledge Hammer hurts my junk. The ride is gunna be the best ride wonderland has to offer for a long time. It is 26 Million. Top Gun I find is still fun and Drop Zone is old.


Canadian Girls = The Sh*t
 
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">FIBA basketball > NBA basketball</div>

Lol, as of right now..YES!

I'm getting a new laptop this week, and I start co-op too at the Toronto Sun. I have a interview with them sometime. Hopefully it will help with my Sports Journalism.

My car insurance is only 1400 a year, 200 less then before, so I can buy some new shoes and clothes.
 
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">FIBA basketball > NBA basketball</div>

So true. International basketball just seems to flow better than NBA basketball. It's a smarter, more tactical and a more interesting game as well. Sure, the top NBA teams are much better than other top teams around the world, but that may not be true in 3-5 years. International basketball is slowly becoming a better all-around product than the NBA, where money and internal problems are becoming too big a part of the league, and if the league doesn't make some changes the NBA will be surpassed surprisingly soon.
 
<div class="quote_poster">kobimel Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So true. International basketball just seems to flow better than NBA basketball. It's a smarter, more tactical and a more interesting game as well. Sure, the top NBA teams are much better than other top teams around the world, but that may not be true in 3-5 years. International basketball is slowly becoming a better all-around product than the NBA, where money and internal problems are becoming too big a part of the league, and if the league doesn't make some changes the NBA will be surpassed surprisingly soon.</div>

I doubt that. As much as the perimeter rules are better in FIBA, the NBA is ****ing rich and that's all that counts.
 
<div class="quote_poster">kobimel Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So true. International basketball just seems to flow better than NBA basketball. It's a smarter, more tactical and a more interesting game as well. Sure, the top NBA teams are much better than other top teams around the world, but that may not be true in 3-5 years. International basketball is slowly becoming a better all-around product than the NBA, where money and internal problems are becoming too big a part of the league, and if the league doesn't make some changes the NBA will be surpassed surprisingly soon.</div>

It really is all those things you mentioned. I compare it to college basketball, but with some more experience and skilled players. The flow is a lot more entertaining and fundamentally sound.

I think a lot of it also has to do with the officiating. The FIBA refs have not played a major factor in any outcomes. They have a better understanding of how to let the players dictate the flow instead imposing their whistle on them.

It's a shame FIBA, Las Vegas, and TV networks didn't do a better job of marketing this tournament. The stadiums have been empty and the games are shown at weird times on TV. You just don't hear much about it unless you're actually watching the game itself.

Once FIBA brings in a competent marketing group who can sell to the US basketball consumers and get more national exposure and eventually more money to spend on players, I think it can compete with the NBA.

The product is more appealing to watch than the current NBA. The players handle themselves a lot better as professionals than a lot of current players in the league. You rarely see a player getting upset with calls, and when they do the officials calm them down and explain what they saw. Instead of trying to show the player up and escalating the complaint.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, since 1999..YES! </div>

There, that's better.

Alright people, it has been very disappointing there is no effort here to learn more about foreign basketball in the Euroleague forum. Get over there and start reading up on current preview club CSKA Moscow instead of living in the OT forum!

Go there now!

<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I doubt that. As much as the perimeter rules are better in FIBA, the NBA is ****ing rich and that's all that counts.</div>

Real Madrid BC alone have more money then the entire NBA does.
 
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There, that's better.

Alright people, it has been very disappointing there is no effort here to learn more about foreign basketball in the Euroleague forum. Get over there and start reading up on current preview club CSKA Moscow instead of living in the OT forum!

Go there now!</div>

Thanks For updating my post. But I wasn't watching basketball in 99, so it is still right now.
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<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
Real Madrid BC alone have more money then the entire NBA does.</div>

Seems kind of overzealous to say don't you think? You're also including their football earnings.

I was speaking purely on a Baloncesto level. The NBA gives it's players the best contracts in basketball.

You also have to consider, that THE best players in the world are from the United States, and there is little reason for the superstars in this country to travel thousands of miles away when the NBA is begging to give them money in a more familiar atmosphere (language-wise and culturally).

Now some international leagues might be able to somewhat compete with the NBA in the future, but the NBA will be the most dominant league for decades at least.
 
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Seems kind of overzealous to say don't you think? You're also including their football earnings.</div>

You were commenting that the NBA is rich. I commented that most European basketball clubs are richer then the entire league itself. The point is the money as a whole, not a single source. Example, the NBA makes money from all the teams among dozens of other sources.
 
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You were commenting that the NBA is rich. I commented that most European basketball clubs are richer then the entire league itself. The point is the money as a whole, not a single source. Example, the NBA makes money from all the teams among dozens of other sources.</div>

You missed my edited post. Real Madrid is more rich, but that is a misleading statement imo. They have to dedicate a good portion of that money to running/paying their football club.

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I was speaking purely on a Baloncesto level. The NBA gives it's players the best contracts in basketball.

You also have to consider, that THE best players in the world are from the United States, and there is little reason for the superstars in this country to travel thousands of miles away when the NBA is begging to give them money in a more familiar atmosphere (language-wise and culturally).

Now some international leagues might be able to somewhat compete with the NBA in the future, but the NBA will be the most dominant league for decades at least.</div>
 
Astros have just fired GM Tim Purpura and Manager Phil Garner................all I have to say is................it's about damn time...Garner has always been a BAD manager but he had the players to make up for his idiotic decisions when we went to the World Series in '05 and Purpura has made some bad moves (trading away Willy Taveras) also..........

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It doesn't matter if he is a reckless runner or not, the pounding takes it's toll. The law of averages is against him. And if he doesn't take risks while running, he'll just be a 300-400 yard rushing Qb tops in the future.

Some QBs are just injury prone, but there is a greater rate of injury in running QBs. You can't name a single great running QB that hasn't been significantly affected by injuries, not one. The most consistent runner not affected by injuries was probably John Elway, but like I say, he was just a 200-300 rushing yard per year guy which Vince is not.</div>

I was just about to bring up Elway, but I'm a believer that injuries can happen to anyone while playing football...especially a quarterback. Kurt Warner went through a rough stretch where he had to put up with injuries...Stan Humphries had to quit because of injuries...all it takes is one hit and that can happen in the pocket or when running......and I really don't consider Mcnabb, Young (vince and steve), etc. a "running" QB like Mike Vick because they're much wiser in choosing their spots...but I think VY will be fine



I like "I Get Money" by 50 Cent................the video is very entertaining to me....I'm going to go DL that song now.............."Obey King 50"
 
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">FIBA basketball > NBA basketball</div>

Amen to that. I just love the smarter play, passing to the cutters and player movement. That's what I like what Toronto is doing; bringing in international players that will have an effect on how the team plays as a whole.

As for the money issue, yeah, NBA basketball has a lot more money involved in it, but at least in my eyes, there is a clear difference in fan support. As with many sports in Europe, the fans are very passionate and loyal to their teams, and that sort of stuff spreads easily. So if they could just market the sport better, teams could probably get many more supporters.
 
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You missed my edited post. Real Madrid is more rich, but that is a misleading statement imo. They have to dedicate a good portion of that money to running/paying their football club.</div>

You have to dedicate your money into all sports in your athletics organization when you are running the most popular one in the World, whose fanbase reaches into the 1 billion range. Considering that number of fans they don't have any trouble spending 100 million dollars per season on footballer transfers alone. They don't release information on true price range on player contracts, but we can only imagine. The basketball club is a high priority at RM, the most successful European basketball team of all-time to go along with the football team of the century award.

<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You also have to consider, that THE best players in the world are from the United States, and there is little reason for the superstars in this country to travel thousands of miles away when the NBA is begging to give them money in a more familiar atmosphere (language-wise and culturally). </div>

"THE best," eh? Your opinion and I need not explain.

<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Now some international leagues might be able to somewhat compete with the NBA in the future, but the NBA will be the most dominant league for decades at least.</div>

Are you kidding me? International domestic leagues will never compete with the NBA unless the league folds. That is never going to happen. However, Euroleague is powerful and many of the big clubs are getting more and more into the sport since 2001. Real Madrid have once stated years ago that this sport is in line with priorities with their football club. A bit of BS for the fans IMO, but when you take a look at their history they really can't complain.

In your quote of Kobimel you stated that you doubt the NBA will lose quality players to European clubs in 3 to 5 years. I doubt that as well, however, in 10 to 20 years, quite likely a yes. Unless the NBA changes things they will be overtaken by the Euroleague, moneywise now and eventually by fan numbers. European sports in general are becomming more and more popular in the United States and Canada and can easily be viewed on television. At first you had to pay big money to see European sports, no longer.

When the European version of the game becomes more popular overseas then you can expect players to start flooding there. This is because once these clubs reach a certain point they will invest a ton more money into their product. Far more then they already do. For instance CSKA Moscow already pay big money to a few players that would earn little in the NBA. 10 million over three years is quite big for a player who would earn less then 1 million per year. This is where their big money comes in from different aspects, so it is not a misleading statement. When Real Madrid and dozens of other clubs offer the NBA and their teams hundreds of millions for popular players, will they turn down the offer? Of course they won't. Just don't expect that to happen during LeBron James' era.

Also just to note, the atmosphere in the European game is bar none. Panathinaikos for instance have the same type of atmosphere you would find at a big-time European football match. Sold out arenas every night with team songs and chants ringing throughout. Truly inspiring.

<div class="quote_poster">Bahir Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">As for the money issue, yeah, NBA basketball has a lot more money involved in it, but at least in my eyes, there is a clear difference in fan support. As with many sports in Europe, the fans are very passionate and loyal to their teams, and that sort of stuff spreads easily. So if they could just market the sport better, teams could probably get many more supporters.</div>

Yes, exactly. Also, you only see that type of similar atmosphere in North America in cities like Chicago and Toronto among very few others.
 
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You have to dedicate your money into all sports in your athletics organization when you are running the most popular one in the World, whose fanbase reaches into the 1 billion range. Considering that number of fans they don't have any trouble spending 100 million dollars per season on footballer transfers alone. They don't release information on true price range on player contracts, but we can only imagine. The basketball club is a high priority at RM, the most successful European basketball team of all-time to go along with the football team of the century award.</div>

Ok, you and I know what I meant by "misleading" (which you later address by admitting it will take 10-20 years for the NBA to lose some players to Euroclubs). This paragraph was superfluous.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"THE best," eh? Your opinion and I need not explain.</div>

Yes, I very arrogantly say that. I can't wait to give Spain the "ol' in-out" (I Love A Clockwork Orange) in some future Olympic/World Championship match-up when the USA team actually works on chemistry and doesn't send second tier players into slaughter.

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Are you kidding me? International domestic leagues will never compete with the NBA unless the league folds. That is never going to happen. However, Euroleague is powerful and many of the big clubs are getting more and more into the sport since 2001. Real Madrid have once stated years ago that this sport is in line with priorities with their football club. A bit of BS for the fans IMO, but when you take a look at their history they really can't complain.
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I meant that at best, they'll somewhat compete in the future (by stealing some role players). It is a very ambiguous term I made, I don't see why you jumped to conclusions.
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In your quote of Kobimel you stated that you doubt the NBA will lose quality players to European clubs in 3 to 5 years. I doubt that as well, however, in 10 to 20 years, quite likely a yes. Unless the NBA changes things they will be overtaken by the Euroleague, moneywise now and eventually by fan numbers. European sports in general are becomming more and more popular in the United States and Canada and can easily be viewed on television. At first you had to pay big money to see European sports, no longer.</div>

The NBA will lose some role players, yes, but the core is all I really care about to be honest. The reason I watch basketball is to see the stars shine. Now of course I would like the refs to keep their whistles in their pockets more, but aside from that I have no other egregious problem with the league rules-wise.
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When the European version of the game becomes more popular overseas then you can expect players to start flooding there. This is because once these clubs reach a certain point they will invest a ton more money into their product. Far more then they already do. For instance CSKA Moscow already pay big money to a few players that would earn little in the NBA. 10 million over three years is quite big for a player who would earn less then 1 million per year. This is where their big money comes in from different aspects, so it is not a misleading statement. When Real Madrid and dozens of other clubs offer the NBA and their teams hundreds of millions for popular players, will they turn down the offer? Of course they won't. Just don't expect that to happen during LeBron James' era.
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Hundreds of millions? I'm sure by the time Madrid reaches that level, the NBA will go through some contract inflation themselves.

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Also just to note, the atmosphere in the European game is bar none. Panathinaikos for instance have the same type of atmosphere you would find at a big-time European football match. Sold out arenas every night with team songs and chants ringing throughout. Truly inspiring.</div>

Oh I know what you mean. Being born in South America I know how passionate fans can be. I don't watch games for the atmosphere though, I just want to see Kobe give people facials (or drop 100 efficiently).

<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
I was just about to bring up Elway, but I'm a believer that injuries can happen to anyone while playing football...especially a quarterback. Kurt Warner went through a rough stretch where he had to put up with injuries...Stan Humphries had to quit because of injuries...all it takes is one hit and that can happen in the pocket or when running......and I really don't consider Mcnabb, Young (vince and steve), etc. a "running" QB like Mike Vick because they're much wiser in choosing their spots...but I think VY will be fine</div>

Did you read my previous posts DREAM? I said McNabb, Pep, etc. weren't run-first QBs but it didn't matter.
 
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No body think, no one ponder, no theories......I think..SLAP! I loved that movies. The Humour is great.
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