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Who says you can't **** Vick and the people who do all those other messed up crimes?
 
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He's better for making money off of the death of animals for his amusement? Some hunters kill for good during the correct season to hunt animals. Hunting for trophy heads is sick IMO, but hunting to eat those animals is fine, during season. The seasons are there due to high amounts of the specific animal, which allows the hunting to take place. Other hunters though I agree are worse then Vick by far of course. Specifically those that torture the Spanish greys I made a post about here in the OT.</div>

If you are consistently against animal cruelty, then I'm fine with that.

My problem is that most fans, the media, and our government, pick and choose their morals and laws at complete random.

At the end of the day, human life is far more valuable than a dog's life.

What do we benefit as a species by keeping pit bulls on the face of the earth? They're not good companions, they're violent, and they're just plain ugly. I wouldn't lose sleep at night if Vick had completely erraticated them.

I understand that some of you believe in religions like Hinduism, where an animal has a soul, but a lot of you believe in religions that say animals don't have a soul. On the flip side, a lot of you athiests should completely care less, because you believe nobody has a soul.

Why **** Michael Vick and not **** Rafer Alston?

Rafer Alston was drunk and beating people outside of a night club the other night and is getting away with just a slap on the wrist. Since the incident, Alston has gotten on with his life and has been left alone by the media. After Vick's incident, which was not violent towards a human, he is facing potential prison time, fines, and the loss of his career. That's far too overboard for a crime nonviolent to humans, especially when you add in all the scrutiny by the media and the fans, making this guy out to be the devil for partaking in something commonplace in his own culture.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW, lol @ "White Outdoorsmen"</div>

Do you know any black people who hunt game? I live in the deep south and head up to upper Michigan to hunt every X-mas break, and I never have.

Our nation is one that is entrenched in racism. From our economy to our law, post-slavery America has given a lot of advantages to white Americans. It's definitely relevant.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Who says you can't **** Vick and the people who do all those other messed up crimes?</div>

You can, but most of the media and fans aren't.
 
<div class="quote_poster">miss3pointer25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Anything>Michael Vick





yes.i know. which makes birthday shopping for my 6ft 8in 250 pound boyfriend difficult.</div>

Damn, he's huge(nh).


I've been listenin to more R & B lately, not really feelin a whole lotta hip-hop songs out there except a few lately.
 
Umair, pick up a pair of Chuck Taylor's. Can never go wrong with a classic shoe. I have about 3 pairs, and you can pretty much wear them with anything.

BTW, miss3pointer, if you don't mind shopping online and are looking for brand names that have huge sizes check out www.drjays.com
 
Try a Big and Tall Men's shop, miss3pointer. I've gone there once or twice a few years back and they might have a few things. I'm 6'7", 203 lbs. and I found maybe like some t-shirts and socks and stuff, nothing major, but it just wasn't my style. Maybe your bf would dig it though.
 
Ron Paul in '08!
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So i have one of three:
Mono
Strept
Tonsillitis

My tonsils are covered in white spots. I've had a terrible fever all day and constant muscle aches and fatigue. All symptoms of all three.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you are consistently against animal cruelty, then I'm fine with that.

My problem is that most fans, the media, and our government, pick and choose their morals and laws at complete random.</div>

Yes, the only reason this comes out against him is of course because he is a celebrity. Also, PETA are only out there because of his celebrity. Those people are ******* retards.

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">At the end of the day, human life is far more valuable than a dog's life.

What do we benefit as a species by keeping pit bulls on the face of the earth? They're not good companions, they're violent, and they're just plain ugly. I wouldn't lose sleep at night if Vick had completely erraticated them.</div>

In the end though the fact is that he is guilty and now must face the charges. There are no 'if ands or buts.' I'm not losing sleep over a man making money he doesn't need over the death of animals wrongfully trained to kill one another going to court, losing his million dollar deals or any other BS happening to him. If he goes to prison, then so be it. I haven't even paid much attention to the whole debacle. He should receive five years, which is what many people involved in dog fighting receive. Not specifically for him, but for anyone that is caught in this act in general be it celebrity or other.

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Do you know any black people who hunt game?</div>

Three. One friend of mine and his father that live in Illinois and another buddy of mine that lives in England.

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Our nation is one that is entrenched in racism. From our economy to our law, post-slavery America has given a lot of advantages to white Americans. It's definitely relevant.</div>

Seriously, out of experience in the matter of racism in several places, don't complain about that here in US. Go to Europe, specifically to Spain and Italy for a few years, then come back and tell me the difference. You will never complain about how people are treated here after you've been there. There is absolutely no comparison what-so-ever in the slightest compared to the abuse people receive over there. Even the "fair" countries there are by far and away worse then the US. No offense bro, I respect your opinion on this matter, but you have to understand it from personal experience.

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Try a Big and Tall Men's shop, miss3pointer. I've gone there once or twice a few years back and they might have a few things. I'm 6'7", 203 lbs. and I found maybe like some t-shirts and socks and stuff, nothing major, but it just wasn't my style. Maybe your bf would dig it though.</div>

Yeah I suggested Casual Male XL and Casual Male Big & Tall a while back to Miss3pointer. They have some really nice stuff there, though usually you may not find fancy stuff. However, they make up for that with very high quality.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Riot Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ron Paul in '08!
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Ron Paul's my favorite republican candidate. He doesn't take stances on issues based on what his constituents want to hear. However, it's like Kucinich with the Democrats, he'll likely take a back seat to the big names come time for nomination. Unfortunately, most of the voter turnout at caucuses comes from the radical sides of each party, so you might not see Giuliani make it either.
 
<div class="quote_poster">miss3pointer25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">yes.i know. which makes birthday shopping for my 6ft 8in 250 pound boyfriend difficult.</div>

You're 17 with a 6'8, 250lb boyfriend!?
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How old is he?
 
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So i have one of three:
Mono
Strept
Tonsillitis

My tonsils are covered in white spots. I've had a terrible fever all day and constant muscle aches and fatigue. All symptoms of all three.</div>

Keep gargling (salt?) water and spitting it out. The sooner the mucus gets out of the back of your throat, the better. You will sleep and breathe easier.

I remember I had that crap like last year, and I almost choked myself on my toothebrush trying to take those white spots out of my mouth. It would go away and come back, in the end it was hard to swallow my saliva, then finally it cleared up in less than 4 weeks. I thought I needed to remove my tonsils, thank god I waited.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you are consistently against animal cruelty, then I'm fine with that.

My problem is that most fans, the media, and our government, pick and choose their morals and laws at complete random.

At the end of the day, human life is far more valuable than a dog's life.

What do we benefit as a species by keeping pit bulls on the face of the earth? They're not good companions, they're violent, and they're just plain ugly. I wouldn't lose sleep at night if Vick had completely erraticated them.

I understand that some of you believe in religions like Hinduism, where an animal has a soul, but a lot of you believe in religions that say animals don't have a soul. On the flip side, a lot of you athiests should completely care less, because you believe nobody has a soul.

Why **** Michael Vick and not **** Rafer Alston?

Rafer Alston was drunk and beating people outside of a night club the other night and is getting away with just a slap on the wrist. Since the incident, Alston has gotten on with his life and has been left alone by the media. After Vick's incident, which was not violent towards a human, he is facing potential prison time, fines, and the loss of his career. That's far too overboard for a crime nonviolent to humans, especially when you add in all the scrutiny by the media and the fans, making this guy out to be the devil for partaking in something commonplace in his own culture.



Do you know any black people who hunt game? I live in the deep south and head up to upper Michigan to hunt every X-mas break, and I never have.

Our nation is one that is entrenched in racism. From our economy to our law, post-slavery America has given a lot of advantages to white Americans. It's definitely relevant.



You can, but most of the media and fans aren't.</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why **** Michael Vick and not **** the hunters of the world?

If anything, Vick's an improvement. He's executing dogs that are trained killing machines. Hunters are killing docile, innocent game.

People on this board just don't understand the culture. I've seen how it works and pitbulls in the ghetto are no domesticated animals. They're dangerous, volatile animals that are only bought and sold for fighting. Tons of NBA players do it (ZBo), as do tons of rappers (Snoop).</div>

We share extremely similar opinions on Vick, I'm surprised I found someone else on JBB that spoke like this.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
Yeah, it's a barbaric culture, but it's random as hell to just pick on Vick when there are worse crimes being commited legally by white outdoorsmen.</div>

Yeah that sums everything up in a neat sentence.
 
What color Chucks do you think look the best, Iggy? I might go for all white.
 
<div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Keep gargling (salt?) water and spitting it out. The sooner the mucus gets out of the back of your throat, the better. You will sleep and breathe easier.

I remember I had that crap like last year, and I almost choked myself on my toothebrush trying to take those white spots out of my mouth. It would go away and come back, in the end it was hard to swallow my saliva, then finally it cleared up in less than 4 weeks. I thought I needed to remove my tonsils, thank god I waited.</div>

Thanks for the advice, I didn't even think about the saltwater trick. I'll definitely do that tomorrow.

As for scraping the white spots, you got some balls man. I'm too ***** to touch my tonsils right now, they're killing me.
 
I dunno what its like in your part of the world, but all the girls over here are wearing these stupid f***ing t-shirts at the moment

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<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Thanks for the advice, I didn't even think about the saltwater trick. I'll definitely do that tomorrow.

As for scraping the white spots, you got some balls man. I'm too ***** to touch my tonsils right now, they're killing me.</div>

Yeah I get throat viruses 3 or 4 times a year and gargling on hot salty water helps (make it REALLY salty). Antiseptic (sp?) helps as well.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">We share extremely similar opinions on Vick, I'm surprised I found someone else on JBB that spoke like this.</div>

I'm in the same boat as well, didn't bother to post anything though since I've already had long conversations with VC about it already.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
I'm in the same boat as well, didn't bother to post anything though since I've already had long conversations with VC about it already.</div>

I already had a great conversation with my professor about Vick and I wasn't going to bother posting anything aimed at you. (I already summed up everything in my previous post and in the football forum). It is cool to know there are others here that share my views, but I'm tired of talking about Vick.
 
Man, I'm dead tired. I went to a place called Wonderland in Maple with my girl and some friends. We were their till like 10:30, then I chilled at her place till like 12. I went home and stayed up till 3 doing some stuff. I had to wake up at 6 to go to work.

I'm at work right now, barley awake, at lunch, I might just take a nap.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Umair Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What color Chucks do you think look the best, Iggy? I might go for all white.</div>

The thing about white Chucks are they are hard to maintain as they get dirty easily. If you don't mind dirty white chucks then go for it, but if you like your shoes clean then I'd go for something else otherwise you'll be paranoid all day looking on the ground for things you might step on.

Black ones go with anything and don't get as dirty, but their not original as almost everyone has black chucks. Since Chuck's are cheaper than most shoes, you can probably afford to get 2 or maybe even 3 with the money you were going to use for a more expensive shoe. Look at the clothes you have and see what colors you have and get one that matches. For example if you wear a lot of red, then get red chucks.

If not Chucks go for some Dunk Hi/Low's. Those are always a good choice.
 
Chuck Taylor's are poor shoes, go with the Adidas brand Umair, trust me.

Anyway, guys last night was scary as hell, I could've been killed. After I got out of the shower and got dressed, I went to sit down in the living room near the window on my favorite chair to watch some TV before bed. Not only five to ten minutes later a lightning strike hits a tree directly behind the window and I just blew off of the chair, no ******* joke! I wasn't knocked out or anything or in a lot of pain, just my head hurt a bit. It instantly felt like I had brain freeze and just lasted the entire night until I laid down to go to sleep. I was in a shock. This morning I look outside and the tree just ouside the window is torn apart from the strike. I consider myself very lucky.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyway, guys last night was scary as hell, I could've been killed. After I got out of the shower and got dressed, I went to sit down in the living room near the window on my favorite chair to watch some TV before bed. Not only five to ten minutes later a lightning strike hits a tree directly behind the window and I just blew off of the chair, no ******* joke! I wasn't knocked out or anything or in a lot of pain, just my head hurt a bit. It instantly felt like I had brain freeze and just lasted the entire night until I laid down to go to sleep. I was in a shock. This morning I look outside and the tree just ouside the window is torn apart from the strike. I consider myself very lucky.</div>

That's incredible. Did the blast itself actually knock you down or was it the shock?

Either way, glad you're alright.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Seriously, out of experience in the matter of racism in several places, don't complain about that here in US. Go to Europe, specifically to Spain and Italy for a few years, then come back and tell me the difference. You will never complain about how people are treated here after you've been there. There is absolutely no comparison what-so-ever in the slightest compared to the abuse people receive over there. Even the "fair" countries there are by far and away worse then the US. No offense bro, I respect your opinion on this matter, but you have to understand it from personal experience.</div>

How does the fact that there's racism in Europe detract from the fact that it still exists here in the States? Our nation was founded upon racism, and it's still prevalent in our economy and our legal system. It doesn't matter if it's worse in Germany or some far off place. That's a whole nother topic for another day and completely unrelated. The fact of the matter is that black Americans, especially in the deep south, are descriminated against in just about every way possible and are stuck in a cycle of poverty, ignorance, and crime that dates back to slavery.

From slavery to the civil rights era, blacks have been oppressed. Even though there's not as many KKK rallies as there used to be, or as many overt acts of racial violence, the system is still in place that has kept blacks down, and it takes a lot more for them to break the cycle than people think.

I was in jail the other night (thanks to our fucking backwards legal system) and was sitting with a couple of black guys, all about my age. This one guy was facing 25+ years for robbing a bank, because his family had just been evicted, he had several brothers and sisters, no father, and no consistent income. He wasn't a dumb guy, but he was just the product of his environment, just like all of the gang members in the hood who have to join gangs because they lack both family support and a quality education, like all the white kids in the suburbs have. He was sitting there telling me, "when I get out of here man, my momma's not gonna be alive no more." That got to me, because you know the judge will throw the book at him, just because he's black. If you took a white kid in the same situation, he might get counseling, probation, etc. --- all that bullshit.

I was actually sitting behind a white kid in court who had been arrested selling cocaine to school children. He got his charge reduced to a misdemeanor possession charge after a plea agreement. He was a rich, spoiled kid who didn't need the money to get by like the aforementioned black guy, yet because he was white, had good lawyers, and was dressed in a suit and tie, they let him walk out of the courtroom with a slap on the wrist, while all his black counterparts were taken away to state.

I could go on, but although our society is significantly more accepting of black people, they're still in a cycle that our government has begat upon them and is often impossible to break, especially in the deep south.

And your few black friends who hunt are a complete anamoly. The outdoorsmen sports (hunting, skeet shooting, fishing, atv'ing, etc.) are without a doubt the most white dominated sports in America.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I already had a great conversation with my professor about Vick and I wasn't going to bother posting anything aimed at you. (I already summed up everything in my previous post and in the football forum). It is cool to know there are others here that share my views, but I'm tired of talking about Vick.</div>

Yeah, it's a bit of an exhausted subject, but I just posted on it because there was some CNN report on it in the background as I was typing, and the legal expert they had in there was a total ****. It just made me think of how backwards it was that to them, the pitbulls were more valuable than Vick himself.

On an unrelated note, does anyone have an update on Kenyon Martin's injury? I'm looking back to the last stretch when he was consistently healthy (Jan. - Feb., 2006), and he had some great nights -

Jan. 2 - 24 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists vs. Boston
Jan. 4 - 16 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 5 blocks vs. Indiana
Jan. 16 - 22 points, 14 rebounds, 2 blocks at Chicago
Jan. 18 - 16 points, 17 rebounds vs. Cleveland
Jan. 23 - 25 points, 12 rebounds, 2 blocks vs. Toronto
Jan. 25 - 21 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks at Portland
Jan. 31 - 21 points, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks at Sacramento
Feb. 10 - 34 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists vs. Dallas
Feb. 12 - 22 points, 10 rebounds at Seattle
Feb. 24 - 18 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals at Minnesota
March 1 - 28 points, 12 rebounds vs. Detroit

...then he got hurt again. Granted those are only 11 highlighted peformances from the 20 games he played in that stretch, it's still insanely productive, and that was really his last healthy stretch of games.

On another unrelated note, I think Andrew Bogut is underrated as a basketball player. The expectations were too high for him coming out of college, and he has definitely underachieved from that point of view, but with all preconceptions aside, he's one of the top post players in the game today (even though his cockiness and big mouth make him a bit hard to like at times).

Last Year's Stats: 34.2 mpg, 12.3 ppg (55.3% FG), 8.9 rpg, and 3.0 apg.

That's a very efficient line, and considering he was only in his second year in the league, I don't think it'd be crazy to expect him to improve upon that mark significantly next season.

Sure, he doesn't have the upside of a guy like Greg Oden, but he could still be a borderline All-Star in a few years. After all, he's only 22 years old.

I don't think it would be that crazy to expect him to put up numbers along the lines of 15 ppg, 10 rpg, and 4 apg this season, especially with Redd and Simmons healthy.

BTW - NTC, I actually dig that fashion. It's very colorful.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're 17 with a 6'8, 250lb boyfriend!?
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How old is he?</div>

He's 17. 18 in October
 
I was playing ball on saturday in the dark with some guys. Well we kept playing after the sun went down. I'm a crazy shooter at night. I hit everything. I think maybe cause I'm relaxed, but it was a lot of fun.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">On another unrelated note, I think Andrew Bogut is underrated as a basketball player. The expectations were too high for him coming out of college, and he has definitely underachieved from that point of view, but with all preconceptions aside, he's one of the top post players in the game today (even though his cockiness and big mouth make him a bit hard to like at times).

Last Year's Stats: 34.2 mpg, 12.3 ppg (55.3% FG), 8.9 rpg, and 3.0 apg.

That's a very efficient line, and considering he was only in his second year in the league, I don't think it'd be crazy to expect him to improve upon that mark significantly next season.

Sure, he doesn't have the upside of a guy like Greg Oden, but he could still be a borderline All-Star in a few years. After all, he's only 22 years old.

I don't think it would be that crazy to expect him to put up numbers along the lines of 15 ppg, 10 rpg, and 4 apg this season, especially with Redd and Simmons healthy.</div>

Disagree that hes underrated. 12/9/3 isn't bad but its not very impressive either. Hes a guy that doesn't have much impact on the games he plays in, at least compared to other post players in the league. He'll give you 12/9/3 but not much else, hes practically a non-factor on defense and isn't anything special on offense. I don't know exactly what you mean by "top post players" but I probably wouldn't rank him in the top 15 big men in the league.

That being said I do think he'll improve and be a nice C in the future. He'll be 23 in November so hes still got a lot of time to develop and I agree that he could feasibly put up 15/10/4 next season but thats provided he gets the touches, which I don't know if he will with guys like Redd, Mo Williams, Charlie Bell, etc. taking a lot of shots and the team has mediocre coaching. I can see him being a good numbers guy but his actual impact on a game is minimal compared to an elite post player IMO. Guys like Duncan, Garnett, Brand, Jermaine O'Neal, Shaq (younger days), Yao, Dirk, Boozer, etc. are all at least dominant on one side of the ball and their presence has an impact on the game that goes beyond the statistics. Teams don't fear Bogut on either side of the ball, he just doesn't have much presence on the court IMO.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Disagree that hes underrated. 12/9/3 isn't bad but its not very impressive either. Hes a guy that doesn't have much impact on the games he plays in, at least compared to other post players in the league. He'll give you 12/9/3 but not much else, hes practically a non-factor on defense and isn't anything special on offense. I don't know exactly what you mean by "top post players" but I probably wouldn't rank him in the top 15 big men in the league.

That being said I do think he'll improve and be a nice C in the future. He'll be 23 in November so hes still got a lot of time to develop and I agree that he could feasibly put up 15/10/4 next season but thats provided he gets the touches, which I don't know if he will with guys like Redd, Mo Williams, Charlie Bell, etc. taking a lot of shots and the team has mediocre coaching. I can see him being a good numbers guy but his actual impact on a game is minimal compared to an elite post player IMO. Guys like Duncan, Garnett, Brand, Jermaine O'Neal, Shaq (younger days), Yao, Dirk, Boozer, etc. are all at least dominant on one side of the ball and their presence has an impact on the game that goes beyond the statistics. Teams don't fear Bogut on either side of the ball, he just doesn't have much presence on the court IMO.</div>

Well, saying he's on of the top fifteen big men in the league would be a stretch, but that's considering all post players, meaning centers and power forwards. As for just centers alone though, I'd say he's borderline top ten. I'd take him over Ilgauskas, Miller, Dalembert, etc. --- and he's a lot younger than them too.

The reason he's not a bigger factor offensively with the Bucks really lies more in the way they underutilize him than anything else. I wish Schaddy was still posting around here, because I know he'd agree with me 110% on that one.

The thing about Bogut is, I think he'll actually be helped by the return of guys like Redd, Simmons, and Mason, because they'll bring offensive consistency to the Bucks. Last season with all of the lineup changes, the way Bogut was used fluctuated, especially when they played that three point guard offense, where you had guys like Charlie Bell, Mo Williams, and Earl Boykins playing positions one through three. Those guys, especially Bell, got blown by defensively, leading to cheap fouls on Bogut's part. None of those new guys coming back really compete with him for touches anyway. He'll still be their first lowpost option offensively.

Anyway, I never put him in the same class as guys like Shaq, but he's looking like he'll be better in his prime than a lot of All-Star big men were.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's incredible. Did the blast itself actually knock you down or was it the shock?

Either way, glad you're alright.</div>

Yeah, the blast itself knocked me down. Everything flashed bright as if the sun was shinning into the room. My cat flew up from the chair and I remember seeing red dots in front of my eyes as I hit the floor. I don't even remember falling. The strange thing is that the tree didn't catch fire and there are no leaves or debris anywhere. The strike must've been extremely powerful to make everything disappear like that.

Yeah, I'm cool though thanks. Just a scary experience.

Also, I replied to your other answer privately. This thread is no place for what I wrote.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, saying he's on of the top fifteen big men in the league would be a stretch, but that's considering all post players, meaning centers and power forwards. As for just centers alone though, I'd say he's borderline top ten. I'd take him over Ilgauskas, Miller, Dalembert, etc. --- and he's a lot younger than them too.

The reason he's not a bigger factor offensively with the Bucks really lies more in the way they underutilize him than anything else. I wish Schaddy was still posting around here, because I know he'd agree with me 110% on that one.

The thing about Bogut is, I think he'll actually be helped by the return of guys like Redd, Simmons, and Mason, because they'll bring offensive consistency to the Bucks. Last season with all of the lineup changes, the way Bogut was used fluctuated, especially when they played that three point guard offense, where you had guys like Charlie Bell, Mo Williams, and Earl Boykins playing positions one through three. Those guys, especially Bell, got blown by defensively, leading to cheap fouls on Bogut's part. None of those new guys coming back really compete with him for touches anyway. He'll still be their first lowpost option offensively.

Anyway, I never put him in the same class as guys like Shaq, but he's looking like he'll be better in his prime than a lot of All-Star big men were.</div>

I don't disagree with that assessment. I just didn't know what you meant by "one of the top post players", could mean just big men who play in the paint (i.e. not Dirk, Okur, etc.), post offense, big men in general, just C's, etc. Right now hes really nothing too special IMO, hes a very good passer but nothing else stands out about his game.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, the blast itself knocked me down. Everything flashed bright as if the sun was shinning into the room. My cat flew up from the chair and I remember seeing red dots in front of my eyes as I hit the floor. I don't even remember falling. The strange thing is that the tree didn't catch fire and there are no leaves or debris anywhere. The strike must've been extremely powerful to make everything disappear like that.

Yeah, I'm cool though thanks. Just a scary experience.

Also, I replied to your other answer privately. This thread is no place for what I wrote.</div>

So one minute you're sitting in your chair and the next minute you find yourself on the floor? That's pretty damn scary, and a lot of stress on the heart I'd assume.

I just glanced over your PM and understand why you wouldn't want it to be on the public forums. I appreciate your perspective. It's pretty long though, so I'll read it when I get home. I've got to be downtown by 2:00, and I still need to get ready. I'm really interested to hear what you had to say.

<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't disagree with that assessment. I just didn't know what you meant by "one of the top post players", could mean just big men who play in the paint (i.e. not Dirk, Okur, etc.), post offense, big men in general, just C's, etc. Right now hes really nothing too special IMO, hes a very good passer but nothing else stands out about his game.</div>

I think his rebounding stands out. At nearly nine boards a game, he's got the same rebounding average as Dirk and Dalembert, and a better rebounding average than players like J. Smith, Gooden, Haslem, West, Jamison, Kaman, Ilgauskas, Okur, Curry, Krstic, Wilcox, etc. --- and that's especially impressive considering that a few of those guys are primarily known as rebounders.

His offensive game isn't incredible, but the way people talk about him, you'd think he was a liability. Although, not being utilized correctly in the offense, he still managed to post 12.3 ppg on 55.3% clip.

And as a passer, he's up there with Garnett, Gasol, Miller, and Duncan.

I just think he deserves a little media attention for something other than his off the wall remarks and doesn't deserve to be written off as a bust just yet. There aren't more than five players I'd for sure take over him. Williams, Paul, Ellis, Granger, and Green are the only ones I think I might take over him off the top of my head, and I'm not even sure I'd take Granger and Green over him.
 
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