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[Master Shake]

<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Rapping on the net. It's kind of like freestyling with the keyboard hence the name, keystyle.</div>

Ah, ok thanks...I'll own at that.

I wanna keystyle!

 

[umair]

We used to have that until the moderators took it away because of personal attacks. But we are eventually going to have a Post Your Lines thread where you can post some of your stuff.

 

[Master Shake]

<div class="quote_poster">Umair Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

We used to have that until the moderators took it away because of personal attacks. But we are eventually going to have a Post Your Lines thread where you can post some of your stuff.</div>

Nice, I'll join that. I'm the white Eminem.

 

[B.e.]

<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">**** it........hip hop is dead....................... the flavor is gone and so is the freshness........my advice to anyone wanting to be a rapper is like what scarface said a few years back "don't get in the game"......let it die off, it had it's days and now it's done......I'm sorry I'm in a bad mood but I just got back from one of my homies shows and although they did their thing on stage there wasn't that "it" factor that seperated them from anyone else rapping right now......my boys are talented MCs and lyricists, but it takes so much more than that to truely be "that" dude.......I'm done with hip hop.....I'll still check for new albums and new artists if I feel they're worth my money, but for the most part I'm gonna listen to my old ****, go collect more old **** and branch my taste out into other musical genres that I missed out on in my life time.............I hate it when people say it, because most of the time they have no fucking idea what they're talking about and they just hop on the bandwagon.....but **** it.........HIP HOP IS DEAD!</div>
I think Mos Def said it the best:
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mos Def- Fear Not of Man:</div><div class="quote_post">
Listen.. people be askin me all the time,
"Yo Mos, what's gettin ready to happen with Hip-Hop?"
(Where do you think Hip-Hop is goin?)
I tell em, "You know what's gonna happen with Hip-Hop?
Whatever's happening with us"
If we smoked out, Hip-Hop is gonna be smoked out
If we doin alright, Hip-Hop is gonna be doin alright
People talk about Hip-Hop like it's some giant livin in the hillside
comin down to visit the townspeople
We +are+ Hip-Hop
Me, you, everybody, we are Hip-Hop
So Hip-Hop is goin where we goin
So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is goin
ask yourself.. where am I goin? How am I doin?</div>

hip hop will never be the 90s and 80s again, but it will get better...eventually...I don't think you can kill a culture.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What hip-hop did to her son? That makes no sense. 'Pac himself knew he was headed for death with the lifestyle he was living. Hiphop is what brought him to the limelight, yet it was a double edged sword because it got him into even more trouble. He chose the way that he lived, so why are you blaming a genre of music for his death? He chose to say all the **** he said, he chose to promote Thug Life, he chose to stomp out Orlando Anderson, he chose to scream "Westside"; his death has less to do with hiphop and more to do with his own mistakes.</div>
He did those things, but thats just the type of outlandish personality he has. There are people like that in everyday life, but hip hop was the catalyst to his early grave. But I don't see how you could say his own moms doesn't respect him...thats just...off

 

[Karma]

Well, I only said it (about his mom) because of the fact that she puts him together wiith artists that he didn't approve of when he was alive, and because she allows people to chop and connect his various verses as they please, to the point that he name drops people that he didn't even KNOW when he was alive.

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Royce Da 5'9 biggest flaw is production, he raps over some of the most poorly produced **** I've ever heard. "Im The King" and that song he did with Premo (I forget the name) are about the only tight ones I can think of.
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I don't agree. Most of the production I've heard him rap on is tight. Death Is Certain had some pretty good production (Everybody Goes, Throwback, etc).

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
There are people like that in everyday life, but hip hop was the catalyst to his early grave.
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I dont understand WHY you're saying that though. It's not like he was killed in a East vs. West rap shootout or something. The guy was in Las Vegas enjoying a fight, heading to a club and got shot up on the Strip. Honestly, the likely reason he got shot was because he stomped out Orlando Anderson (a Crip) in the MGM Grand just a couple of hours before, and nothing deeper than that.

The catalyst of his death was the way he chose to live, his actions, and whatever came out of his mouth. You can't blame a genre of music for someone's death. It's like saying grunge was responsible for the death of Kurt Cobain.
No; Kurt Cobain was responsible for his own death (or so they say....but that's an entirely different topic).

 

[Shapecity]

<div class="quote_poster">The Super Villain Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think Mos Def said it the best:


hip hop will never be the 90s and 80s again, but it will get better...eventually...I don't think you can kill a culture.


He did those things, but thats just the type of outlandish personality he has. There are people like that in everyday life, but hip hop was the catalyst to his early grave. But I don't see how you could say his own moms doesn't respect him...thats just...off</div>

How was hip hop the catalyst to his early grave?

DREAM you can buy an official Hip Hop is Dead TShirt at Urban Outfitters.

 

[Legacy]

<div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nice, I'll join that. I'm the white Eminem.</div>

Eminem is white.

 

[Bleed Green]

<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think I have to delete Big Pun off my MP3 player, I almost broke into hysterics on the bus today while listening to "Still Not A Player", specifically this line:

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lol what I love about Pun's music is that he always made you laugh in someway. Whether it was the skits or a bar like the one you mentioned. I wish he would've lived longer and made more albums but that's life. What always gets me is that Chorus on "It's So hard".

"I just lost 100 pounds, I'm trying to live. I aint going nowhere baby" Sad

 

[Master Shake]

<div class="quote_poster">Legacy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Eminem is white.

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I am aware.

 

[M Two One]

<div align="center">

<font size=""3""><u>2007 Participating Teams</u></font>

NBA teams
Boston Celtics
Memphis Grizzlies
Minnesota Timberwolves
Toronto Raptors

European clubs
Club Baloncesto Estudiantes (Spain)
Efes Pilsen (Turkey)
Pallacanestro Virtus Roma (Italy)
Real Madrid Baloncesto (Spain)
Unicaja M?laga (Spain)

<font size=""3""><u>Schedule</u></font>

October 6
Celtics vs. Raptors @ Palalottomatica (Rome, Italy)
Efes Pilsen vs. Timberwolves @ Abdi Ipecki Hall (Istanbul, Turkey)

October 7
Virtus Roma vs. Raptors @ Palalottomatica (Rome, Italy)

October 9
Unicaja M?laga vs. Grizzlies @ Martin Carpena (Malaga, Spain)

October 10
Celtics vs. Timberwolves @ The O2 (London, England)

October 11
Real Madrid vs. Raptors @ Palacio de Deportes (Madrid, Spain)
Estudiantes vs. Grizzlies @ Palacio de Deportes (Madrid, Spain)</div>


Every match on schedule looks to be quite entertaining. The Celtics against the Raptors, Efes Pilsen against the Wolves and Real Madrid against the Raptors are my top three. CB Estudiantes against the Grizzlies is probably the only match that won't be worth watching unless you want to be able to say you've watched the entire Tour.

I don't think every game will be available everywhere, but for those of you that have NBA TV or live in the Toronto area you're very lucky. I have NBA TV so I'm set to go. I had to post this here as well as the Euroleague forum so that the information gets out to those that aren't aware of these matches for October. Mostly because I find most members live in the OT forum.

Go here to discuss where it counts.

 

[Smitty]

I'm so f'n bored right now...and I got class in 2 hours..from 5:30-9:15. Hopefully the prof lets us out early since it's the first day.

Well, I rather be at class right now instead of work.

 

[The Dream]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">DREAM you can buy an official Hip Hop is Dead TShirt at Urban Outfitters.</div>

LOL...I would never walk around with that on, because I wouldn't want to look like a poser..........I was in a bad mood last night, but I still share the same thoughts as I did yesterday...

 

[The Dream]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"I just lost 100 pounds, I'm trying to live. I aint going nowhere baby" Sad</div>

As much as I love Pun, I chuckle a tad bit when hear that line, because he passed away from being to obese shortly after...

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">Legacy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Eminem is white.

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That was the joke...

Hip-Hop isnt dead, the problem is people have blurred perceptions of what Hip-Hop is, they turn on TV, and see Nas or Jay-Z rapping on MTV, that isnt Hip-Hop, that is Rap. 50 Cent, MIMS, Mobb Deep, Paul Wall, Eminem etc. etc. all of that is rap, mainstream rap. The Hip-Hop culture is alive and kicking, its just there are too many people out there who are worried about making a $$$ rather than making banging music who give Hip-Hop a bad name (since it falls under the same category as Rap).

If you look in the right places, you will find excellent Hip-Hop still being produced, guys like Little Brother for example, who have released 3 albums in the last 5 years that I consider to be some of the best Hip-Hop i've ever heard. Hip-Hop isnt dead at all, the main focus has just shifted to this "Dirty South" type bullshit you hear on MTV, because to todays generation, thats whats cool, and thats what its all about today, image and money. 50 Cent is well aware of this, and he just spends 5 minutes throwing together a song then releases an album, because he know its gonna sell no matter what, because kids wont buy it because of its complex lyricism, but because its 50 "I got shot 9 times I'm such a gangsta pimp huster" Cent.

 

[B.e.]

I wouldn't say it's kids buying 50 records, I'd bet anything it's mostly females...his biggest success selling records hasn't came from portraying an image of a gangster and getting shot nine times, what sells him records is songs like In Da Club, Disco Inferno, Candy Shop, Just A Lil Bit, which are HUGE club hits...its like pop music.

and did you just say Nas and Jay-Z aren't hip hop? How so? Your trying to distinguish Rap and Hip Hop...at the end of the day it's beats and rhymes, all those artists are hip hop.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont understand WHY you're saying that though. It's not like he was killed in a East vs. West rap shootout or something. The guy was in Las Vegas enjoying a fight, heading to a club and got shot up on the Strip. Honestly, the likely reason he got shot was because he stomped out Orlando Anderson (a Crip) in the MGM Grand just a couple of hours before, and nothing deeper than that.

The catalyst of his death was the way he chose to live, his actions, and whatever came out of his mouth.</div>
Nothing deeper than that? Tupac didn't individualy stomp Andersen out...it was him and a group of other people. So why would they single Tupac out? I'm pretty sure nobody else got killed.

I think your misinterpreting what I'm trying to say...yeah Pac's actions and the way that he lived his life that ultimately lead to his downfall, but a catalyst isn't a cause, it's something that speeds up a reaction. There was tons of negative energy around Pac in the hip hop game when he was shot...I'm just saying I think that played a role in his downfall. The same way it did Biggie Smalls, who, personality wise, was completely different from Tupac...yet he still died a damn near identical death. I think a lot of the negative energy in hip hop was significant in the deaths of them.

 

[Mr. J]

It's beats, rhymes, and life.

 

[Really Lost One]

Is it just this year, or has JBB always been so boring in the offseason?

 

[Smitty]

Nah, it's just that it's the off-season still. It'll pick up around pre-season time.

 

[Really Lost One]

<div class="quote_poster">Smitty Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nah, it's just that it's the off-season still. It'll pick up around pre-season time.</div>

OMGZ!!!!!! Will people post in the Sixers forum???

 

[B.e.]

Brian your ODn.

 

[The Dream]

^^^^and it's a great thing.

 

[huevonkiller]

Scott Baker lost his no-hitter in the ninth and Tiger Woods took three shots to get out of a sandtrap today.

 

[Master Shake]

<div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">OMGZ!!!!!! Will people post in the Sixers forum???

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I know I will

 

[Karma]

2 days to go

 

[Chutney]

I emptied my pockets and found some napkins from Junior's Cheesecake in NY. Holy crap, that place was amazing.

 

[hustler]

Hahahaha I also put a lot of **** in my pockets.

 

[B.e.]

Jrs Cheesecake? Thats where Diddy sent the band to get him some cheesecake. LOL.

 

[hustler]

Lol and the store closed by the time they got there.

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">The Super Villain Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't say it's kids buying 50 records, I'd bet anything it's mostly females...his biggest success selling records hasn't came from portraying an image of a gangster and getting shot nine times, what sells him records is songs like In Da Club, Disco Inferno, Candy Shop, Just A Lil Bit, which are HUGE club hits...its like pop music.</div>

It actually has been, thats what was thrown out to the world back when he first cracked the mainstream, and thats what he built his empire around, the fact he was shot 9 times. His songs are club bangers, you're right, but think of it like this, if Al Gore released those songs for example, do you think they would be anywhere near as popular? No they wouldnt. People buy his music because its 50 Cent, the former drug dealer turned rapper who was shot 9 times, thats the image he potrays, thats the story we were fed. The same goes for The Game. You wanna talk about rappers who made it big on club hits, then look at the likes of Paul Wall, Lil Jon, Ying Yang Twins, Bubba Sparxxx etc.

<div class="quote_poster">The Super Villain Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">and did you just say Nas and Jay-Z aren't hip hop? How so?</div>

Yes I did.

Jay-Z has <u>always</u> been about the dollar, and Nas jumped onto the mainstream bandwagon with 'Stillmatic'. Both are great lyricists, dont get me wrong, but they dont represent what true Hip-Hop is all about, which brings me to the next point...

<div class="quote_poster">The Super Villain Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Your trying to distinguish Rap and Hip Hop...at the end of the day it's beats and rhymes, all those artists are hip hop.</div>

Thats not true.

I dont know how much you know about the History of Hip-Hop, but let me give you a quick run down. Hip-Hop is a culture that was built on street art (graffiti), dance (in particular break dancing) and meaningful lyrics. Hip-Hop was/is for the people. Rap is a culture that was built on money, living large and whatever lyrics, Rap is for the Artist/Record Companies.

Guys like Rakim, KRS-One, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Organized Konfuzion, Public Enemy, Mos Def, Common etc. etc. rapped about the struggle, issues that were going on in the world, in a hope to bring light to the situation, or educate people about problems. Guys like Eminem, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Mobb Deep, DMX, Dr. Dre, The Game, Snoop Dogg etc. etc. rap about killing people, having sex with women and living large, simply as a means to make a quick buck. No thought or heart goes into their music, some exceptions can be made, dont get me wrong, but their basic message is "pay me". That my friend, is the difference between the 2.

 

[umair]

Well if everything works out good then Me, Pakman, igotask8board, Blurr#7 are going to play a little 2 on 2. We'll let you guys know what happens, oh btw, we're are planning on hooping this Friday.