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Natebishop3 said:
And I think Neil knows that. We couldn't let Crabbe walk away for nothing, so we had to match, but we simply have too many guards and centers. Someone has to go, so it makes perfect sense that we pair up Crabbe with Plumlee and ship them off for a big. I think it will be Crabbe because Turner brings intangibles that we were sorely lacking last year - IE ball handling and distributing. That was something that Batum provided, and we missed it last season.

I also think Plumlee will be in the package because he's still on his rookie scale and I think that dude is gonna get paid. We have Meyers and Ezeli on fairly affordable contracts. Although, with that said, both of those guys are injury prone.
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I agree we have too many guards but not too many good guards. We are fine with Dame, CJ ET and Napier.

I view Crabbe more a as a SF and we could not lose him this last summer because he is our 3rd best outside shooters. We lack outside shooting when you consider Aminu, Harkless, Davis, Plumlee, ET will all get minutes. Crabbe is essential. So if he is packaged for someone with Plumlee, that someone better be a really good outside shooter or it will be a lateral move IMO.

But if that new player is really good and young then I would do it, but we would have to replace Crabbe at some point. Which would not help us this year.
 
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Allen Crabbe has a trade kicker. Are you guys considering this?
 
If golden state wanted to trade Klay Thompson. Would you do it? He only makes 18 million until 2019. So to make the salaries match we would have to trade some combination of Ed Davis and Aminu, or Davis and harkless, or aminu and harkless, or Meyers and Aminu. I think there's a lot of combinations that work out well for both sides.
I could even see it being a 3 team trade.

We get Cousins.
Sac gets klay
Golden state gets 2 guys from us (Davis, Aminu, Harkless, or Meyers)
 
Nate said:
If golden state wanted to trade Klay Thompson. Would you do it? He only makes 18 million until 2019. So to make the salaries match we would have to trade some combination of Ed Davis and Aminu, or Davis and harkless, or aminu and harkless, or Meyers and Aminu. I think there's a lot of combinations that work out well for both sides.
I could even see it being a 3 team trade.

We get Cousins.
Sac gets klay
Golden state gets 2 guys from us (Davis, Aminu, Harkless, or Meyers)
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This is a classic example of the "why would Golden State trade Klay to us when they could just trade him straight across to Sac for Boogie?"
 
Natebishop3 said:
You will take your Greg Monroe and LIKE it.
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But I don't wanna give up Crabbe for Monroe!!

Seriously though, I like our 5 wings (+Napier); I'd much prefer a deal involving our PF's/C's. In that regard, Milwauke ain't want what we got, whereas Brooklyn might actually be interested.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm hoping that Crabbe/Meyers can show enough to entice Sac into trading us Boogie.

Crabbe/Meyers/Vonleh for Boogie.

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Boogie
Plumlee

With Napier, Turner, Aminu, Davis, and Ezeli off the bench. That's my dream scenario.
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Problem with Cousins is that in a year and a half he probably leaves and goes someplace else. Not worth it to give up on Crabbe if Crabbe deliver on his promise.

To be fair Crabbe and Harkless are two players I honestly don't want us to trade despite them being mentioned as probable trade baits a lot. I'd probably rather part with Aminu and I also like him. Ed Davis is a no go although with his contract he would be a great asset for almost every team in the league.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is a classic example of the "why would Golden State trade Klay to us when they could just trade him straight across to Sac for Boogie?"
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Because there is such a thing known as the salary cap.

Steph is gonna get some stupid ass $200 mil contract. Even with the cap going way up, they won't be able to afford their big 4, 3 years from now - the repeater tax will kill them. Someone will have to go, likely Klay. The reason why no Klay for Boogie is because it won't help them with the luxury tax down the road. Klay for Embiid + Noel + high 1st would probably be more interesting to them.
 
TBpup said:
The Blazers are $1 under the Luxury tax level with a team that will likely finish somewhere in the #3-6 range. They also have 11 players who are used to being regular rotation players. So likely Vonleh goes from starting 50+ games to getting scrap minutes (not much of a chance to develop) and that leaves 10 fighting for minutes when Stotts has historically shown he likes a rotation of 9 and that 9th player only gets around 7-12 minutes.

Lillard / McCollum
Harkless / Crabbe / Turner
Aminu / Davis / Vonleh
Plumlee / Leonard / Ezeli

As long as the Blazers are winning, that may work but it's not hard to imagine some frustration due to a log-jam of good players. This team seems ripe for a consolidation trade at some point.

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Yep, it's hard to give minutes to this many players. IMO if Ezeli can stay fit we will move either Plumlee or Leonard, or both of them. Sending Plumlee to another team for a backcourt player which we could then package together with Leonard for another big would probably not be the worst idea if we are to cut down on the numbers. Aminu could also be moved with Davis slotting in at 4 with Harkless used as a back up at both 4, Crabbe or Turner covering 3 when Moe is at 4. Aminu's trade value must be very high, he is on $7M.

Nets would do Leonard and Aminu for Brook easily too. Not sure I want this. The same package would get us Okafor and he is younger and cheaper.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is a classic example of the "why would Golden State trade Klay to us when they could just trade him straight across to Sac for Boogie?"
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I don't think golden state would want cousins.
 
My biggest fear with Lopez is that he's always injured....every season it seems. I wouldn't trade Aminu and Meyers for him for that reason more than any...and people forget how much defense Aminu brings to the table..he's our best defender by far
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm hoping that Crabbe/Meyers can show enough to entice Sac into trading us Boogie.

Crabbe/Meyers/Vonleh for Boogie.

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Boogie
Plumlee

With Napier, Turner, Aminu, Davis, and Ezeli off the bench. That's my dream scenario.
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Sign Plums this season and then use him in this trade instead of Meyers and that,s a contender
 
Ricky Rubio would be my second choice target after DMC. Livingston was a HUGE reason for their run, Rubio is a rich man's Livingston.

Move Crabbe to SF and run a three guard rotation of Dame/CJ/Rubio.

But I do know it'd be near impossible for two reasons:

1) TV money - Rubio's agent for sure wants him a starter somewhere
2) Do we have the pieces? Crabbe's kicker makes it even tougher to put together an acceptable package.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Ricky Rubio would be my second choice target after DMC. Livingston was a HUGE reason for their run, Rubio is a rich man's Livingston.

Move Crabbe to SF and run a three guard rotation of Dame/CJ/Rubio.

But I do know it'd be near impossible for two reasons:

1) TV money - Rubio's agent for sure wants him a starter somewhere
2) Do we have the pieces? Crabbe's kicker makes it even tougher to put together an acceptable package.
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Shaun Livingston can shoot.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm hoping that Crabbe/Meyers can show enough to entice Sac into trading us Boogie.

Crabbe/Meyers/Vonleh for Boogie.

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Boogie
Plumlee

With Napier, Turner, Aminu, Davis, and Ezeli off the bench. That's my dream scenario.
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We'd have to get been more salary so might as well take Garrett Temple and go with this:

Lillard / Napier
McCollum / Temple
Harkless / Turner
Aminu / Davis
Cousins / Plumlee / Ezeli
 
Yep giving up every power forward on the roster and taking a center to take our centers toll to 4 players makes perfect sense.
 
Would anyone entertain Noel and Covington for Leonard and Crabbe? 76ers are apparently looking to shop Noel to the Celtics for Olynyk, plus they need a starting shooting guard. I love Crabbe and wish he could start, but he's not going to be a starter here. Leonard, assuming he keeps getting better, is pretty much what Olynyk is. Trade would make sense for both teams, and we would create more cap space to extend Plumlee and Noel this summer.

Eventually, I'd like to see a future blazer front court that starts Vonleh and Noel. Or, if Vonleh starts showing star potential and the Kings still aren't in the playoffs next year, we could package Vonleh plus Aminu, our own pick and Cleveland's pick for Demarcus.

A starting lineup of Lillard/McCollum/Harkless/Cousins/Noel plus a bench with Turner and Plumlee would certainly be a top 4 seed. A Harkless/Cousins/Noel frontline would also be a lot better defensively than what we had last year. Even without trading for Cousins, I would be very interested in bringing Noel onto the team. His presence on defense is huge and his offensive game is getting better, as he was starting to get his jumpshots to fall in games last year.
 
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