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[mrmel29]

Hope step is back. Changes are skjei down and hellberg and summers (ugh) up so we can be 100,000 under the cap. LMAO. The hobbit giving Kreids hell.

Didn't see that last night, but remember the off-sides. Picturing Zuuc giving him hell in a NY accent. "You ****ed that up! You!"

 

[kreidertime]

Don't rule out the Rangers shopping Kreider. He's a mental midget and still a guy other teams would love to have.

 

[mrmel29]

Stephan back tonight

 

[Rangers94]

All I need to know about AV being clueless with this lineup is he scratched Lindberg and kept Glass dressed. Not worth watching this team until this dumb coach gets a clue and gets rid of Glass. Defensively we struggle continuously, so let's keep a player who's AWFUL in every facet of the game and bench one who excels in almost every facet.
We're not scoring goals, yes, but it's because we SUCK defensively and cannot get out of our own zone, and when we do its one and done. This is what we were in the playoffs last year and it's continued this year. When looking at SOG against, not GAA since our goalies were standing on their heads making saves, and then looking at our offensive scoring percentage, neither of those were sustainable and it's now showing. Yes it's a "rough stretch" but when you truly look at all the numbers and not just cherry pick the stats you want to look at, this whole season has been rough for us, we just got lucky with Hank being AMAZING to start the year and not starting slowly. Now we get to see ALL those blemishes that were there from the start. If you want to continue to think that this is only a rough stretch the last few weeks, go ahead and bury your head in the sand. The rest of us realize that this team is going to struggle mightily this year and will probably limp into the playoffs.

 

[Rangers94]

Honest question for everyone here....if this team misses the playoffs or get eliminated quickly in the first round, does AV come back next year? I mean, he's a great offensive mind, but he's not good defensively. I'm fine with him staying, but then we need a better overall game plan because teams know to beat AVs system simply trap the neutral zone and don't allow any break out passes. This team cannot sustain ANY offensive zone time, cannot get a cycle going, cannot work a forecheck. I mean, I'm not entirely sure what this team does well these days other than give up great scoring chances against.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Gorton, please fire this assclown behind the bench. This tool scratches one of the better players this year in Lindberg in favor of this trash Glass. Meanwhile useless Kreider and Hayes continue getting a regular shift.

 

[Stepupstepan]

I would say fire his ass and Ulf NOW.

 

[Rangers94]

Gorton, please fire this assclown behind the bench. This tool scraches one of the better players in Lindberg in favor of this trash Glass. Meanwhile useless Kreider and Hayes continue getting a regular shift.

AV is not getting fired in the middle of the season when we are second in the division. After the season if we miss the playoffs or get knocked out quickly he might, but even then I think with the past two years with making the SCF and ECF he's getting a free pass this season regardless.

 

[Stepupstepan]

He might not get fired this year but like I said last night. This team will start falling to the mediocrity while his tenure continues.

 

[Rangers94]

I don't understand why this team does so many fly bys on the net instead of stopping there and setting up. If they'd stop at the net they'd score a ton more goals. Instead hey do a flyby, go behind the net without the puck and then aren't in position if/when a puck goes towards the net.

 

[Rangers94]

This is what Hank usually look like in October/November. Instead, this year he came out on fire and stopped everything. Now, he's regressed into October/November mode. The way this team has looked all year, if he's not in playoff mode stopping everything this team will struggle, as we've seen. Is what it is. No point getting overly worked up with it. It's only a game. Sadly, this team isn't playing the game well these days at all.

 

[Rangers94]

The key to a good PP is quick puck movement and ability to win board battles. This team does neither. Sunday is gonna be a massacre.

 

[Messiah717]

He might not get fired this year but like I said last night. This team will start falling to the mediocrity while his tenure continues.

You're becoming a broken record with this stupidity. If you're going to recite daily that he should be fired then have some names of replacements to suggest.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Suggest replacements? His coaching has been piss poor all year long. He usually fixes this crap by this time. He deserves to get fired for the job he has done so far but he wont.

 

[Ranger71]

Coaching? How about these slow, out of position slugs who look like they just started playing?

 

[Messiah717]

Suggest replacements? His coaching has been piss poor all year long. He usually fixes this crap by this time. He deserves to get fired for the job he has done so far but he wont.

Considering his tenure in New York so far you honestly believe he deserves to get fired? By your reasoning teams would be going through coaches every other year. And yes since you're calling daily for his firing who would you like to see coaching them instead?

 

[Rangers94]

Considering his tenure in New York so far you honestly believe he deserves to get fired? By your reasoning teams would be going through coaches every other year. And yes since you're calling daily for his firing who would you like to see coaching them instead?

I wouldn't mind Bylsma if the Sabres are dumb enough to fire him haha. He got a raw deal in Pittsburgh when he got fired. But it's all for naught. AV isn't going anywhere this season unless we continue struggling like this and dropping in the standings. If we drop out of a playoff spot I could totally see a coaching move coming but I have no clue who they'd replace him with.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Considering his tenure in New York so far you honestly believe he deserves to get fired? By your reasoning teams would be going through coaches every other year. And yes since you're calling daily for his firing who would you like to see coaching them instead?

I was talking about based on this year. This team has looked awful for the most part of this season. If it was not for hank and some luck they would be under 500 right now.

 

[cagedlion]

Can't watch this. Av's offensive genius has huge
defensive loopholes. Not playoff quality!

 

[Messiah717]

And it would be an idiotic knee jerk reaction which is why fans aren't general managers.

 

[Rangers94]

Considering his tenure in New York so far you honestly believe he deserves to get fired? By your reasoning teams would be going through coaches every other year. And yes since you're calling daily for his firing who would you like to see coaching them instead?

Honest question Mess, at what point do you start to blame the coaches for an inability to change the game plan and continuing to try to do the same thing ineffectively and at what point do you think AV would be threatened to being canned? His lack of adjusting to how teams have taken away and neutralized his system is astounding to me. His arrogance to change his game plan to be more conducive to help this team is ludicrous. However, at the same time, the players at some point I feel like need to man up and play better, even if that means disobeying AV and doing what they want if they think it'll work. I honestly don't care what this team has to do to win, whether it's keep doing AV's thing even though it's not working currently, or going in a different direction. I just want them to play a full 60 minutes and play like they give a shit. I just feel like there's too many guys out there who lack the heart needed to win a Cup. I don't know. Maybe it's just the Tylenol PM talking at this point hahaha

 

[Messiah717]

Honest question Mess, at what point do you start to blame the coaches for an inability to change the game plan and continuing to try to do the same thing ineffectively and at what point do you think AV would be threatened to being canned? His lack of adjusting to how teams have taken away and neutralized his system is astounding to me. His arrogance to change his game plan to be more conducive to help this team is ludicrous. However, at the same time, the players at some point I feel like need to man up and play better, even if that means disobeying AV and doing what they want if they think it'll work. I honestly don't care what this team has to do to win, whether it's keep doing AV's thing even though it's not working currently, or going in a different direction. I just want them to play a full 60 minutes and play like they give a shit. I just feel like there's too many guys out there who lack the heart needed to win a Cup. I don't know. Maybe it's just the Tylenol PM talking at this point hahaha

Again, he took them to the finals and was within a game to going back to the finals. The throw the baby out with the bath water mentality at this point is just an emotional reaction. Not to mention to not blame some of these players is ridiculous. We said going into this year that they were really going to need guys like Kreider and Hayes to step up and be top players on this team. Miller was in that discussion as well. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened and the team is clearly worse off because of it. The defense has certainly had its issues but overall it's not like they have suddenly forgotten how to play. When you see that Girardi has been banged up that sheds some light on what has been going on. A lot of minutes and a lot of wear and tear has taken its toll. As for coaching people act like changing an entire team's approach and game plan is like switching a light on and off. It doesn't work that way. It would be like expecting an NFL team to suddenly be able to play an entirely different offense and defense at the snap of a finger.

 

[Rangers94]

As for coaching people act like changing an entire team's approach and game plan is like switching a light on and off. It doesn't work that way. It would be like expecting an NFL team to suddenly be able to play an entirely different offense and defense at the snap of a finger.

This is a main reason why I don't think he gets fired this year during the season. If we fail to make the playoffs or get knocked out in the first round I wouldn't be surprised though. But as for in season, I don't see it happening. And no one is giving the players a pass, but AV is the one putting Glass out there every game and scratching guys like Lindberg. If you want Glass out there then scratch Etem who's equally as useless as Glass.

 

[Messiah717]

This is a main reason why I don't think he gets fired this year during the season. If we fail to make the playoffs or get knocked out in the first round I wouldn't be surprised though. But as for in season, I don't see it happening. And no one is giving the players a pass, but AV is the one putting Glass out there every game and scratching guys like Lindberg. If you want Glass out there then scratch Etem who's equally as useless as Glass.

Glass is an easy lightening rod but he actually hasn't even been that terrible lately. Their issues are not because a fourth line player is in the lineup. I mean currently they're being out shot 30-19 in the second period. This is not a Tanner Glass issue.

 

[Rangers94]

This team is friggin useless in the defensive zone. Everyone puck watches instead of locating the open guy. That's why there's always an open guy in the slot. Too much puck watching, and that happens in EVERY zone for the Rangers. They're just a very bad team right now, that would be way out of a playoff spot if not for a hot start. Winnipeg will have over 30 shots through 2 periods. Defense is CONSISTENLY out biggest issue, not offense. Our offense will get better when we get better defensively. We simply can't sustain any offensive zone pressure due to spending so much time in our own zone attempting to play defense that by the time we get into to offensive zone they're too tired to do anything and either dump and change or get one shot and out of the zone the puck goes again.

 

[Rangers94]

Glass is an easy lightening rod but he actually hasn't even been that terrible lately. Their issues are not because a fourth line player is in the lineup. I mean currently they're being out shot 30-19 in the second period. This is not a Tanner Glass issue.

Seriously? So you're ok with Glass playing over Lindberg? Wow. Have a good night. I can't continue this conversation anymore. You're literally making an excuse for AV playing Glass over Lindberg. Wow. Is it Glass' fault? Absolutely not. I even said if you wanted to play Glass than bench Etem who brings nothing as well, at least Glass will fight. But to bench one of our best YOUNG REAL SOLID PLAYERS is a joke unless he's tired and needed a day off, which is possible.

 

[Messiah717]

This team is friggin useless in the defensive zone. Everyone puck watches instead of locating the open guy. That's why there's always an open guy in the slot. Too much puck watching, and that happens in EVERY zone for the Rangers. They're just a very bad team right now, that would be way out of a playoff spot if not for a hot start. Winnipeg will have over 30 shots through 2 periods. Defense is CONSISTENLY out biggest issue, not offense. Our offense will get better when we get better defensively. We simply can't sustain any offensive zone pressure due to spending so much time in our own zone attempting to play defense that by the time we get into to offensive zone they're too tired to do anything and either dump and change or get one shot and out of the zone the puck goes again.

My issue is this years roster. What was missing and is missing with this club is a player or two win an edge. A guy like Lucic instead of these nice guy type players. When I look at these guys tough is the last thing that comes to mind .

 

[Stepupstepan]

Scratching Lindberg is one of the dumbest coaching decisions I have ever witnessed as ranger fan. Especially when you have players who have been struggling more all year in Hayes, Etem and Kreider. On top of this, he continues to play Glass. Mind boggling. After the Rangers scored the second goal, he put his fourth line on the ice when he had a momentum. What kind of coach does this?

 

[Messiah717]

Seriously? So you're ok with Glass playing over Lindberg? Wow. Have a good night. I can't continue this conversation anymore. You're literally making an excuse for AV playing Glass over Lindberg. Wow. Is it Glass' fault? Absolutely not. I even said if you wanted to play Glass than bench Etem who brings nothing as well, at least Glass will fight. But to bench one of our best YOUNG REAL SOLID PLAYERS is a joke unless he's tired and needed a day off, which is possible.

He's looks like a decent player but stop making these guys out of be what they aren't. Lindberg hasn't been playing well at all lately either. I'm not going to go crazy because he's sitting out a game as if they're sitting Mario Lemieux.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Line juggling is AV's in game adjustments. Just pulls names out of his ass and see if it works...LOL