RANGERS-CAP THREAD

[strudwickisthebest]

lol wow. . . . please trade for some proven Vets and toughness, this is a shit show

 

[theProdigy223]

FUCK your shutout.

 

[theProdigy223]

Oh wait, a review to Toronto. We're screwed.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Rebuild? Who are they going to rebuild with?

 

[chuckd3534]

We are not fully on the same page sc. I am talking about the fact that we have a lot of cap space this summer and a bunch of FA's. That gives us a chance to add one more top 6 forward AND reshape the bottom 6 correctly this time. And complete the D with McIlrath here, and maybe one other vet. Be ready to roll big time next season.

You are talking adding picks. 2015. 2016. On and on. I am NOT there with you. I am talking about next season, and NEXT SEASON ONLY.

 

[Ranger71]

Im all about that Chuck, thats basically what ive been pointing to, getting past this collection of stupid mini contracts and reshaping things this offseason as well. Hopefully its done well because its a very critical one. Thats why having GS stick around is scary because we could end up with more crippling signings.

 

[chuckd3534]

Bottom line is this summer will be our last real chance to re-shape the team a little for a while. Sather cannot mess this up. We need the right top 6 scorer added, the right bottom 6 players added, and the right vet dman added. Once this summer comes and goes we will be locked in for a few years at least. This summer is the time. Make or break time. I think that's pretty much the long and short of it. This summer or bust.

Scares me also that Sather will be the guy. I bet that means he stays for one more season so he can put his last imprint on the team this summer. He sees what we see, that this summer is it and after that we'll be locked in. Scary....

 

[NYR31]

Every time i see the box scores and see Ryan / Seguin putting up points, i weep. Seguin is becoming the stud many people thought he would be and is averaging a pt per game and Ryan is scoring at a 40gl pace. What could have been if Sather was awake when those deals went down.

 

[Ranger71]

Basically most of the other gm's are younger and in tune with day to day things, whereas it seems Sather is always late to the party. He's still stuck in 1987 management wise, when FA was less important.

 

[chuckd3534]

Ryan is the one who bothers me more. I think we would have had a better chance at him then swinging a deal with Boston. Shame really. We could have gotten it done. The only question mark is would we have had to include Kreider. I wouldn't do that. But I bet there was a way, Miller and some other kids, we could have gotten Ryan and kept Kreider. Water under the bridge now. We need to focus on the next "Ryan" to get moved I guess.

And I agree 71. Not saying you have to be young to be a GM, but it is not difficult to see Sather is out of touch. I doubt he is working all day and night. I doubt he is working the phones, and E-mail, and texts like most GM's do. I fear that's the reality of Sather right now.

 

[NYR31]

3-way deals do happen, so if Sather really wanted to go after Seguin he being in Boston would not have been an insurmountable challenge. Just needed a little creativity, and get off his ass too, of course.

 

[chuckd3534]

Not impossible, nothing is really, but I think Ryan was way more likely. Either way I guess it doesn't matter anymore. What can you do I guess...

 

[theProdigy223]

Ryan was way more likely just because we'd be dealing with ANH and not BOS. Rumors were flying that ANH was trying to move Ryan and we easily could have put together a good package centered around DZ and Miller. I also think Ryan would have been the better type of guy to add. Much bigger, pure scorer. Seguin was also having problems with off-ice distractions. NY isn't the best place for a guy like that. What could have been....

 

[Ranger71]

Sather knows which players he wants to move, but its almost as if he gives up after another team says no to his initial offer for X or Y. Others seem to keep at it and get creative while he gets stubborn and moves onto the next team.

 

[chuckd3534]

Right, which is why as crazy as it sounds, the fact that we say Sather does great in trades is a bad thing in a way. He only makes deals where he feels like he is robbing the other team. Either he gets what he wants fully, or no deal. And that is no way to be a GM IMO. That will stop many solid deals from happening where maybe we don't rob the other team, but still come out okay big picture. Take a chance. Sometimes it won't work out, but you have to be in it to win it.