RANGERS-LIGHTNING GAME 2

[Messiah717]

Vs the best road team in the league....

True, but as we know that's not an easy place to play. Rangers need to good start in game three to keep the crowd quiet.

 

[Stepupstepan]

It is funny that this has turned into CK bashing. He is one of the reasons why they are here in first place.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

I wouldn't say bashing.. He plays on the edge and it is something we need, but he needs to know when to do it and when not to

 

[Messiah717]

It is funny that this has turned into CK bashing. He is one of the reasons why they are here in first place.

Nobody is bashing him. Just stating facts. That was an idiotic roughing penalty he took.

 

[Rangers94]

At some point, someone needs to step up in the locker room and say, "enough with the bullshit talking about what we need to do. Just go out there and fucking do it already!!!"

 

[Messiah717]

The bottom line is that we can talk and over analyze until the cows come home. They simply need to come out with a much better effort in game three. I know it has become almost funny how they play after winning game 1 of series but there's no excuse for the level of play tonight.

 

[Messiah717]

At some point, someone needs to step up in the locker room and say, "enough with the bullshit talking about what we need to do. Just go out there and fucking do it already!!!"

I think the tone for this evening was set early by the inept play of St. Louis. Instead of scoring on a glorious chance he shots wide and then falls down on a 5 on 3 leading to a short handed goal.

 

[chuckd3534]

Why are people surprised at this horrible performance? It's what they do.

They will Prob still win the series but it's likely going 7 now

Exactly. Wait the Rangers didn't show up in game 2 after winning game 1 at home...WOW what a surprise.

I was there, and they played about 5 good minutes all game. The rest was flat and lazy.

MSL is terrible. As soon as TB scored on a 2 on 0 break on a Rangers 5 on 3 you knew what kind of game it would be. MSL had his finger prints all over that one.

I figured 1-1. I figured 7 games. I would guess home 2-2...and we go from there. Tossup series. But I will say this, we are not winning this series 2-1 every game. We must score 3 goals a game to win this series. So Nash, who is now almost invisible on O, needs to get his sh*t together.

 

[chuckd3534]

Guys...some advice, don't over analyze this game. Rangers were awful. Bolts showed up in a huge way in a big game for them. We played 5 good minutes of hockey. We need to play MUCH better in game 3 to have a shot. I would expect we do it and whether it is game 3 or game 4 we should come home 2-2.

Only comment I will add is what I just said, we need to score in this series. We aren't beating that team 2-1 four times.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Nash and MSL have 2 goals combined in whole playoffs! How they got this far is a miracle.

 

[Messiah717]

Exactly. Wait the Rangers didn't show up in game 2 after winning game 1 at home...WOW what a surprise.

I was there, and they played about 5 good minutes all gme. The rest was flat and lazy.

MSL is terrible. As soon as TB scored on a 2 on 0 break on and Rangers 5 on 3 you knew what kind of game it would be. MSL had his finger prints all over that one.

I figured 1-1. I figured 7 games. I would guess home 2-2...and we go from there. Tossup series. But I will say this, we are not winning this series 2-1 every game. We must score 3 goals a game to win this series. So Nash, which is now almost invisible on O, needs to get his sh*t together.

I've given up on Nash suddenly breaking out in the playoffs. It has been too many games now. Seven goals in 55 playoff games is a disgrace.

 

[Messiah717]

Nash and MSL have 2 goals combined in whole playoffs! How they got this far is a miracle.

They should be ashamed of themselves to be quite honest. Add in the fact that one of Nash's goals was completely useless and you really get the story.

 

[chuckd3534]

Yeah, I wouldn't bet a nickel on Nash scoring goalS in this series. Just saying we could use it for sure. I wouldn't bet anything on it happening though.

 

[Messiah717]

Yeah, I wouldn't bet a nickel on Nash scoring goalS in this series. Just saying we could use it for sure. I wouldn't bet anything on it happening though.

There's no polite way of saying it. The guy plays like a complete pussy in the playoffs. He was a beast for 75% of the series and then took a hit and went back to playing timid. How many times do you see him take the outside shot that has no chance instead of taking it hard to the net?

 

[chuckd3534]

The thing about Nash is even when he wasn't scoring he was getting a lot of chances, now he isn't even getting those, maybe 2 a game.

I really hit the end with Nash on the break against Holtby in game 7 down 1-0. That "move" he made was soft, weak, and scared. That greatly concerned me. He just plays so soft and afraid in the playoffs. That was such weak sh*t that I said wow this guy just doesn't have the makeup mentally to get it done.

Sad...

And MSL is terrible now. I mean he is killing the team. That 1st goal was 100% on him. He wins zero battles. He is terrible. I beg AV get him off the PP and move Miller up and MSL down. And when Zucc is back MSL needs to be scratched. He is killing us, and plays on the 1st PP unit...wake up on that one AV.

 

[Messiah717]

Like somebody said earlier AV is loyal to a fault. No, you don't want to see a player go out like that but the guy is clearly finished and is hurting the team on top of it. Miller or somebody else couldn't possibly be worse than a guy just not producing at all.

 

[NYR2009]

I never thought I would say Glass is more valuable than St.Louis.

What I don't get is why make that stupid move on 5:3? Stand in that stupid right corner like you usually do. It is 5:3. You did not play the point on the PP all season, why? That is my biggest problem with that play and with St.Louis. It is one thing where you are old and cannot move, but it is another thing when you are veteran, the oldest on the team and make such a dumb decision. At this point guide others. Use your strengths which is experience to help others score, instead of trying to take carry team yourself.

 

[NYR2009]

I am not sure if you recover from such a game. I think this is worse than Game 1 vs Caps. Is this a turning point of the series?

 

[NYR2009]

And I agree, move him down with Glass and Sheppard. I think Miller will do great with Moore and Hagelin. St.Louis is killing this team. I agree with all of you. And... that is exactly why AV has won 3 President's Trophy's in the last 5 years and no cups. His loyalty. I am very mad right now after this game. Plus, Lundqvist hasn't made one big save in this game. Not one. I mean he is awesome and deserves one bad game, so I give him a pass but just stating one fact that noone mentioned during postgame.

 

[Disturbed]

2009 didn't you say the G1 loss vs Wash they couldn't recover?

There's reason for concern but they played the worst gm since Nov.

Flush it and move on. Team is great when they face pressure and adversity. Now they have it.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

This team NEVER recovers

 

[chuckd3534]

Same old story with 2009...LOL.

I hope TB has the same opinion you do buddy. I am not saying the Rangers win this series for sure, TB is a good team, but I can say the Rangers will get their stuff together and play well in this series. There is too much in that lockerroom in everyway for them not to.

This board is funny. You have people talking about sweeps after winning game 1. Now the Rangers do what they ALWAYS do in game 2 at home after winning game 1, and you have people acting as if the sky is falling and saying not sure we recover...LOL.

We missed you after game 1 2009, but we're not surprised to see you after game 2....

 

[chuckd3534]

SIX times in 12 series since the start of 2012 the Rangers won game 1 on home ice only to lose game 2 on home ice. It is the same script every single time in game 2 after winning game 1. To me if you lose 2-1, or 3-2, or 6-2 who cares.

Give TB credit for showing up and playing well last night, but truth be told they weren't anything special.

4 of their 6 goals were on ST's.

Goal 1 MSL takes the puck from the corner, skates to the BL, passes, takes a pass back in the skates, instead of making the safe play tries to get fancy, AND the almost impossible 2 on 0 happens while up 5 on 3...SHG.

Goal 2 sloppy stupid penalties, as well as Stepan has played STOP TRIPPING, lead to a 4 on 3...goal TB.

Goal 3 I think it was Staal falls flat on his face, break out Bolts.

So the Rangers played like trash last night. Not fair to say TB doesn't deserve credit for helping to force that crap play from the Rangers, they deserve full credit for their play last night, but you are kidding yourselves if you think the Rangers showed up with anything last night.

I would expect the Rangers to split in TB, but that isn't a lock and won't be handed to them. They need to go out and earn it. They also need to stay out of the box, and Miller should be with Hags and Moore. We need goals in this series, and MSL is not getting it done. It is truly amazing to see how quickly he slammed into that wall.

So we move forward to tomorrow night. Not sure if the Rangers win or lose, but I am pretty confident they will play much better than last night. From there the chips will fall where they may.

 

[mrmel29]

The offensively inept for the most part canadians beat tampa 6-2 down there and we are the best road team in hockey so they are far from unbeatable there. We will get at least a game down there. AV needs to bench msL except until the hobbit is back who would you even replace him with. He also needs to publicly call out nash to get his big 6'4 240b ass going to the net and scoring some goals which is what he is being paid the big bucks to do.

 

[Messiah717]

The offensively inept for the most part canadians beat tampa 6-2 down there and we are the best road team in hockey so they are far from unbeatable there. We will get at least a game down there. AV needs to bench msL except until the hobbit is back who would you even replace him with. He also needs to publicly call out nash to get his big 6'4 240b ass going to the net and scoring some goals which is what he is being paid the big bucks to do.

They need to stop the dumb penalties and stay out of the box. This team will continue to kill them if they're constantly on the penalty kill. It's not AV's way to call players out and do anything publicly and that's not going to change. If he's not going to be benched then MSL at the very least needs his minutes diminished and he needs to be moved down. He certainly shouldn't be on the power play.

 

[chuckd3534]

Pierre McGuire was on TSN1050 this morning and spoke about game 2 between the Rangers and Lightning:

• He said last night’s dominant victory by the Lighting was due to their performance and not a lack of effort on the Rangers part.
• On the Rangers mistakes, Tampa “forced a lot those mistakes” and drew them into “silly and selfish penalties.”

 

[NYR31]

don't agree with Pierre...i don't think the MSL and Staal turnovers that led to goals were because of TB but just because of poor decisions by the Rangers. And the Lightning had some very dumb penalties as well, so it was not just us who did it.

 

[chuckd3534]

I actually think Pierre is smart when it comes to this stuff, but here I disagree. YES TB played really well and 100% they deserve full credit, but if you didn't see the Rangers flatter than a pancake I don't know what you are watching.

5 on 3 for the Rangers...allow a 2 on 0...credit TB for that?

Sloppy stick fouls...credit TB for that?

Now TB 100000000% took advantage of the Rangers flatness, so thumbs up for that, but come on now Pierre you are over the top here IMO.

 

[chuckd3534]

Agree with you for sure 31.

 

[Messiah717]

Simply put the entire Rangers team played like crap. Last night is on everyone. Nobody who touched that ice is immune from blame for that dreadful performance.