Ranking The West - Currently

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I'd say:

1) Lakers

2) Spurs

3) Blazers

4) Nuggets

5) Hornets

6) Mavericks

7) Rockets (sans Ming)

8) Jazz

Fair enough?
 
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I think the Nuggets are better than the Blazers atm, and Rockets aren't making the playoffs without Yao.
 
B-Roy said:
I think the Nuggets are better than the Blazers atm, and Rockets aren't making the playoffs without Yao.
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Oops. I meant to put the Mavs ahead of the Rockets.

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1. LAL
2. SAS
3. DEN
4. POR
5. DAL
6. UTA
7. NOH
8. GSW
 
1. Lakers
2. Spurs
3. Us
4. Denver
5. Utah
6. New Orleans
7. Dallas
8. Golden State
 
Assuming no Yao Ming:

1) Lakers

2) Spurs

3) Blazers

4) Nuggets

5) Jazz

6) Hornets

7) Mavericks

8) Warriors
 
1. Lakers
2. Dallas - Yes I think Marion helps that much!
3. BLAZERS - I'm a HOMER just feel like we NEED a top 3 seed this season
4. Spurs - I'm betting on injuries dropping them if healthy I'd rank them #2
5. Utah
6. Denver - I still like this team just feel they overachieve a bit last year
7. Hornets
8. OKC - Somebody has to get the #8 seed

Again this upcoming season like the last couple we'll see a lot of parity between seeds 2-7 so I see much movement in the standings until the end.
 
Tier 1
1- LA

Tier 2
2- San Antonio
3- Portland
4- Denver

Tier 3
5- Dallas
6- New Orleans
7- Houston
8- Utah
 
There's no way the Spurs are better than us. They have no size.
 
1. Lakers
2. Spurs
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. Utah
6. Dallas
7. New Orleans
8. Phoenix

I think the Suns are the 8th best team in the West... Nash and Amare and JRich can all still play at high levels, and they have a coach who will play to their strengths.

Ed O.
 
lakers
spurs
denver
us

ah fuck, its the same as Ed O's

the Spurs will be better than us next season i think , they are retooling nicely and are legit threats.
 
I would so love a first-round matchup with HCA against either Utah, Dallas or New Orleans next season. Even with the roster we've got, I think with the natural progression and development of our guys, we can beat any of those three.
 
I'd like to hear a compelling argument for why Denver is better than us.

We were tied with them last year... there's a chance they'll lose Birdman (or give him a fat contract so he loses effort), and Oden/Rudy/Batum/Bayless wouldn't be rookies next year.

I don't see any way how we're not better next year. So tell me how Denver is going to improve as much as us?
 
They got Ty Lawson.
Full year of Chauncy Billups instead of midseason trade to adjust.
Carmello continues to improve.
they already locked up Birdman.

and...they made it to the western conference finals, we got knocked out in round 1 which means they are already ahead of us.
 
They got Ty Lawson... to play behind Billups.

Billups was acquired in the first week of the season, IIRC. He played almost 80 games with Denver... certainly they adjusted to him.

I guess CA improving... but I don't see their guys growing as much as our younger guys will...
 
Denver has less room to improve, unlike us. Billups has peaked. They might lose Anderson, a key bench player. It's unlikely JR Smith will ever "get it". Carmelo might improve a bit.

The R-Jeff move is vastly overrated. He's not that good of a player. The Spurs are still old and beat up. Duncan was barely able to finish games at the end of last season. And you never know when Manu is going to drop on the floor again.

If Oden, Bayless, and Batum improve as projected (even the most minimal), they're better than the Nuggets. With a possible healthy Webster, and most likely acquisition at PG, SF, or PF, I'm positive we'll end up with a better record than them.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Flip flop the Spurs & Nuggets and I think you're close.
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You think the Nuggets got better than the Spurs? Seriously?

Oh, thaat's right. You think Duncan is rapidly approaching the need to purchase his mobility scooter. :lol:
 
ABM said:
You think the Nuggets got better than the Spurs? Seriously?

Oh, thaat's right. You think Duncan is rapidly approaching the need to purchase his mobility scooter. :lol:
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The Spurs have no depth and Duncan is clearly a step slower. Manu has been hurt a lot and I'm taking a 'wait & see' approach to Jefferson. Denver is a solid veteran team.
 
It's really too close to call. Last season it came down to the last game of the season. This season it is HyperOdenDependent and SuperManuDependent. Obviously, it WAS also HyperYaoDependent.
 
WarriorFan said:
Lakers
Spurs
Utah
Denver
Portland
Mavs
GSW
NOH
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I know Nellie likes small ball, but how in the world do you see your team playing Curry, Watson, Morrow, Maggette, Law, Jackson, Ellis, Claxton, Belinelli and Azubuike? That's an insane amount of guards/small forwards.
 
alex42083 said:
I know Nellie likes small ball, but how in the world do you see your team playing Curry, Watson, Morrow, Maggette, Law, Jackson, Ellis, Claxton, Belinelli and Azubuike? That's an insane amount of guards/small forwards.
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I don't. Maggette plays about half his minutes at PF (I don't like that but it's just the way it is). Law will get the Marcus Williams treatment and never play, Watson just doesn't fit anymore, and Claxton will retire. I wish we could get rid of Morrow, he's just too one dimensional for me but Nellie seems to love him. I'd much rather those minutes go to Beli. For that matter I'd like quite a few of Azubuike's minutes to go to Belinelli too but I guess Nellie sees some problem with him that I don't. I think he's the best PG on the roster (and he's not even a true PG...that's sad).

PG Monta 22, Curry 18, Beli 8
SG Jax 25, Monta 13, Morrow 10
SF Azubuike 18, Jax 15, Maggette 15


But even with the problem I have with Nellie and the makeup of the roster, I think Monta coming back is like bringing in a quality free agent. Randolph looks like he can be a legitimate PF, supposedly he's grown to almost 7' and added 20 lbs. If they can get decent production from one of Curry, Beli, or Azu I think that should be enough to push them up to the 7 seed. NOH just doesn't look much like the team from 2 years ago anymore.
 
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The top 8:

LAL (59-23) - They were the best team in the league and won the title easily. Then they go and get rid of a crucial role player for a me-first blackhole nutcase. I have a feeling Ron-Ron is going to fuck the chemistry up, but they'll still be #1.

DEN (56-26) - They were pretty damn good last year, and I don't see that really changing. If they keep Birdman and JR gets one more precious year of maturity, all they can do is improve. If they weren't full of thugs, I would love this team.

POR (56-26) - Denver owns the tiebreaker on us. Even if we run with the crew we've got right now, we'll be better than last year. This is mainly because of the development of just about our entire team. It's easy to forget that they're all so young and with the exception of Joel, Steve and perhaps Travis, none of them have reached their peak yet. Particularly, I think that the development of Oden and Nate giving the backup reigns to Bayless are going to add some much needed consistency. The only two questions marks I have are: is Martell gonna show up? and who plays backup PF?

UTA (53-29) - Provided Deron stays healthy and their front line (Boozer, Okur, Milsap) is healthy as well, they're going to be much better than last year. The rest of their team is pretty sketchy, but they've got the Sloan-factor and Deron is only gonna get better.

SAS (53-29) - Utah will own the tiebreaker. This is assuming everyone stays healthy, which is unlikely. When you've got Duncan, Manu, McDyess, Blair and a washed up Finley, there's a distinct possibility that the Spurs could degenerate into the Parker and Jefferson show, which would be pretty ugly. However, if they stay healthy and Pop figures out how to utilize Jefferson (which I'm sure he will), then they may contend with LAL for the top spot. However, my instinct tells me that Duncan plays 60 games and Jefferson is underwhelming, so I think they'll be lucky to get to the WCF.

DAL - (50-32) I don't know if Marion is going to do much for them, and word now is that talks have stalled. Even if he does come over, this team is headed downhill. Kidd and Marion are both washed up, Terry and Howard are both undersized and play no D, and they're losing Bass. They either stay the same or drop in win total.

NO (48-34) They were disappointing last season, and they did next to nothing since then. It's pretty much the CP3 and David West show, with a washed up Peja and an injured Chandler. I don't see anything but another first round exit.

PHO - (45-37) They've got Nash, Amare and uhh... J-Rich. The only reason they get in is because Houston is going to be terrible. By the way, the reason a team with 45 wins is getting in is because I think overall, the bad teams in the West and a few in the East are getting significantly better next year, so that should help to reduce the number of 50 win teams in the playoffs next year.


The Rest:

OKC - I think it'll be close, but ultimately they won't get in. They're like the Blazers of two years ago, up and coming, full of talent, will go on a huge win streak and then miss the playoffs by thatmuch.

GS - If they keep Turiaf, Monta stays healthy and Jax continues his improbably steady veteran play, then they'll be pretty close to the playoffs.

HOU - edit: lol I forgot about them. With a potential starting lineup of Brooks/Wafer/Ariza/Scola/Mutumbo's Corpse, who wouldn't forget about them?

MEM - The starting 5 looks good on paper: Conley/Mayo/Gay/Z-bo/Thabeet. But I've said it before: it's going to implode spectacularly.

MIN - They traded away Randy Foye and drafted three point guards, the best of which isn't going to play for them. So, uh, if Big Al stays healthy and one of those PGs can play, then they might not be so terrible. Also Kevin Love is just gonna be better. But after that, it doesn't look good.

LAC - Injuries. You gotta love Gordon and Thorton, and hopefully Blake will be a stud, but look beyond them: Kaman, Camby, Baron and Ricky. Youch.

SAC - Something tells me that the Sergio trade isn't gonna put them over the top just yet. They're just bad.
 
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