Ray Rice inside elevator punch video released.

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I appear to be the only person who views this video and thinks that it wasn't the punch that knocked her out, but her head hitting the railing in the back of the elevator. Yes, he hit her. Yes, it's egregious. Yes, his suspension is warranted. But I think TMZ's claim that he "delivered a vicious punch to his fiancee's face, knocking her out cold" is inaccurate, inflammatory, and irresponsible.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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WTF? I'm sorry my face got in the way of Ray Rice's fist?

I just don't get it. For much of my life, I have been bigger and stronger than most (I grew quickly then flatlined). The lesson that was drilled into my head from when I was a toddler was that I was never to hit anyone significantly smaller or weaker than me unless threatened and NEVER hit a woman, no matter what. If you have a fight, and they get agressive, you wrap them up until they calm down, but never, never, never, ever strike them.

Ray Rice is not tall, but he's fucking Hercules compared to this woman. She wasn't going to hurt him with a few blows. He could have easily subdued her by wrapping her up, or just let her beat on him for a while. Instead, he went Tyson.

It says they married a month later. I bet the prenup was changed in her favor after this incident. No matter. She should run. Anyone who would do this once, will do it again.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I appear to be the only person who views this video and thinks that it wasn't the punch that knocked her out, but her head hitting the railing in the back of the elevator. Yes, he hit her. Yes, it's egregious. Yes, his suspension is warranted. But I think TMZ's claim that he "delivered a vicious punch to his fiancee's face, knocking her out cold" is inaccurate, inflammatory, and irresponsible.
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The casino that happened in did just go out of business so that evil elevator will never do that to another woman again.
 
Goodell should resign, this is a complete joke, and the Ravens should cut this guy immediately. Who am i kidding though, they kept a murderer around for years and are even going to put a statue of him up outside their stadium.
 
Bonus! Got Rice in the 5th round of fantasy!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The casino that happened in did just go out of business so that evil elevator will never do that to another woman again.
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Mock all you want, as you know that's not at all what I said. But I ask, had that rail not been there, had her head not hit it--does this situation even see the light of day?

It would be like if a drunk driver hits another car and knocks it off a bridge, killing the people inside. The drunk driver is still in the wrong, is responsible for the results, but the surrounding circumstances amplified the negative outcome.

Rice is in the wrong, clearly--but is it all that unreasonable to look at more than just that one aspect of this, or to speak about it accurately?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Mock all you want, as you know that's not at all what I said. But I ask, had that rail not been there, had her head not hit it--does this situation even see the light of day?

It would be like if a drunk driver hits another car and knocks it off a bridge, killing the people inside. The drunk driver is still in the wrong, is responsible for the results, but the surrounding circumstances amplified the negative outcome.

Rice is in the wrong, clearly--but is it all that unreasonable to look at more than just that one aspect of this, or to speak about it accurately?
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You have no proof that it was the rail and not the punch that knocked her out. Doesn't matter if her head hit a rail, the ground or someone else. His punch was hard enough to cause her to be knocked out. That is a vicious punch.
 
The Harbaugh brothers are a joke

Jim Harbaugh and the Ravens should have stepped up and suspended Rice themselves.

John Harbaugh went back on his word and allowed Ray MacDonald to play week 1. Pathetic.

The brothers, Ravens and 49ers are a joke right now
 
RoyToy said:
John Harbaugh went back on his word and allowed Ray MacDonald to play week 1. Pathetic.
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If he cut McDonald before the legal system had a chance to play out, there'd be a lawsuit filed the next day against him. Now, if or when it comes out that McDonald did hit her, and at that time he does nothing, then I'm all for ripping on him for it. But he did say if convicted/guilty of it.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You have no proof that it was the rail and not the punch that knocked her out. Doesn't matter if her head hit a rail, the ground or someone else. His punch was hard enough to cause her to be knocked out. That is a vicious punch.
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I have no proof that the real knocked her out. You have no proof that the punch knocked her out, or even that it was hard enough to do so. All either of us know for sure was that Rice hit her, she went down, her head hit the rail, and somewhere in there, she received a blow to the head sufficient to knock her out.

However, I think, based on what I've seen and experienced, that it's much more likely that the rail knocked her out than that the "punch" did. Honestly, the video is so choppy that I can't even tell how he hit her.
 
Sounds like the Ravens dropped him. Good for them.
 
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I wonder if LaMike will go to the Ravens?
 
NFL can't keep its players out of trouble. So much nonsense about drugs/owners with DUIs, etc., MLB is losing interest from the most important demographic because it's so boring and has no marketable stars. And steroids made it worse. MLS is still mostly irrelevant. NHL is similar.

Contrast all that to the NBA, which just got rid of its most contentious exec in an instant, leading to a massive increase in teams' worth. Fan interest is ridiculous even in the off-season with focus on the draft and free agency. Its stars have stellar records and stay out of trouble, and are all very marketable. News today on twitter said the incumbent networks are bidding double the value of the previous media contract. And fan interest around the world for the NBA is higher than it has ever been, whereas the other leagues appeal almost exclusively to the domestic market.

Adam Silver ftw.
 
Employers should not punish employees for off-work behavior. That's what the legal system is for.

The employer might get embarrassed? Tough.
 
It's different when that employee is in the public eye
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You have no proof that it was the rail and not the punch that knocked her out. Doesn't matter if her head hit a rail, the ground or someone else. His punch was hard enough to cause her to be knocked out. That is a vicious punch.
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Ray Rice gets screwed cause his bitch has a glass jaw. Now lets take his job away and hope he does not beat his wife because of it.

God forbid they offer counselling and anger management to him and her.
 
jlprk said:
Employers should not punish employees for off-work behavior. That's what the legal system is for.

The employer might get embarrassed? Tough.
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LOL! Except the NFL markets the individual players. The players are the brand.
 
Not sure why the video has spawned all of this. What did they think happened in the elevator? 2 games was too light. I thought it would at least be 4 games, and probably more. But, I am kind of surprised people are talking about banning him from the game. It's not like he killed anyone. He didn't even get convicted of anything. Sucks for Ray Rice's wife. She gets knocked out and she loses a bunch of money.
 
The NFL has suspended him indefinitely formally. Informally, I'm sure Goodell has told every single team not to pick him up.

Frankly, I think this is bullshit. Seeing violence does not make the act worse. Yet that's what people are reacting to.

I'm frankly sick of this holier than thou bloodletting. Hey, let's hang guys like Sterling and Rice to make us feel better about ourselves and our moral superiority! We are all sinners, and we all make mistakes. These reactions, however, are over the top and too extreme.
 
Talk about double jeopardy. The guy was already punished for the act. Now, he's being tried and punished in the court of public opinion and by the NFL. AGAIN.

Clearly, his actions were deplorable. Hideous. Gross. Disturbing. But how it's being handled, now, after the public release of the video is quite disturbing as well.
 
Fantasy steal to fantasy bust! Damn you wife beater!
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Talk about double jeopardy. The guy was already punished for the act. Now, he's being tried and punished in the court of public opinion and by the NFL. AGAIN.

Clearly, his actions were deplorable. Hideous. Gross. Disturbing. But how it's being handled, now, after the public release of the video is quite disturbing as well.
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Bingo. It's bloodlust. Mob rule.

Sad.
 
So, a video released of what we already knew happened? Shouldn't change his suspension to a ban imo, this is the NFL saving face once again.

I don't condone hitting women by any means but I believe in second chances (as long as you don't murder anyone). If Michael Vick, Donte Stallworth and Josh Brent get a second chance for killing why won't Ray Rice get his second chance for something much less?
 
The only case I would say it is okay to hit a woman is if she is larger than you and trying to attack you. Otherwise there are ways to disarm/stop a physically abusive woman than punching her in the face.

Fuck Ray Rice, I don't care if the metal bar was what knocked her out , you don't hit a lady, especially not a full swing to the face.

Let him play in the nfl, and don't throw flags for him. I'm sure there are plenty of respectful husbands who would love to teach him a lesson.
 
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Hopefully we'll hear more from the NFL. It might come down to what Rice told the NFL and Ravens what happened in that elevator compared to what we're seeing happening on the tape. Seeing the limit punishment the NFL gave him and the tweet the Ravens put out saying that Mrs Rice regrets her actions I'm not sure if they were given an accurate description of what really happened in that elevator.

If he told the Ravens and NFL exactly what happened then it is hypocritical to give him this severe of a punishment now but if he lied, had his wife lie and tried to cover up or mislead the Ravens and NFL about what happened that is a problem and he deserves what he gets.
 
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