re: Dame - “He’s Gonna Be One of the Richest Players in NBA History, With Zero Titles.

[Lukee]

I watch the show and Shannon was always complementary towards Dame and CJ. He's dead wrong with this, but he was triggered by Dame quote about Jordan, and himself as biggest LBJ fan in the world has to create some discussion with Skip.

 

[Labinot41]

Who cares what clown Shannon Sharpe says, Dame will be a legend in Rip City

 

[BlayZa]

journalism is dead

its just soundbites and headline statements now, and nothing sells like stupid shit.

 

[ABM]

.......It’s also strange to hear him call himself a ”motherfucker,” since he is the face of the franchise and has such a clean cut image.

He's a rapper. Prolly goes with the turritory.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I watch the show and Shannon was always complementary towards Dame and CJ. He's dead wrong with this, but he was triggered by Dame quote about Jordan, and himself as biggest LBJ fan in the world has to create some discussion with Skip.

What did Dame say about Jordan?

 

[noknobs]

It sounds like he only cares about the money, for one thing. It’s also strange to hear him call himself a ”motherfucker,” since he is the face of the franchise and has such a clean cut image.

I agree it's not his typical response but I think we know Dame better than that by now. He definitely cares about winning but winning the right way. He's responding to criticism about him being both "rich" and "forgotten" and his response seems to be saying well if that happens it happens but I'm not going to change. At the end of the day it's just another thing to motivate him.

I remember Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Ewing, Malone and Stockton... Sharpe is wrong about being forgotten just like he was wrong about Dame never taking less.

Right now Dame has just as many rings as Harden, Chris Paul, Westbrook, PG13 and AD who have decided they need to team up with other stars, or go to a large market, or go back home, or all three, in order to win. If some of them never win a ring I suppose they'll be forgotten too even though they chose different routes.

 

[noknobs]

What did Dame say about Jordan?

That he probably didn't go out searching to get guys to come join him.

 

[dviss1]

It sounds like he only cares about the money, for one thing. It’s also strange to hear him call himself a ”motherfucker,” since he is the face of the franchise and has such a clean cut image.

Lol. He's black. It's not strange at all.

 

[joeBlazers]

The Spurs/Lakers/Warrior dynasty have made sure there are tons of guys who have accumulated fortunes without titles. Guys like Chris Webber, Westbrook, Paul, Harden, Mike Conley, Melo, ...
How about those guys in the East who never played with LeBron?
It is unfortunate, but there is only a handful of players who actually win an NBA Title.

 

[KingSpeed]

But Kevin Garnett won a title.

 

[tiredhunter]

I read that quote, and just think of Stockton, Malone, and Payton. That's decent enough company.

Edit: And I completly forgot Payton sold out and scored a ring with Miami in 06.

 

[Orion Bailey]

But Kevin Garnett won a title.

Who?

I read that quote, and just think of Stockton, Malone, and Payton. That's decent enough company.

Edit: And I completly forgot Payton sold out and scored a ring with Miami in 06.

Almost got a second with Malones first. Cant remember who they lost to though.

 

[ABM]

I read that quote, and just think of Stockton, Malone, and Payton. That's decent enough company.

Edit: And I completly forgot Payton sold out and scored a ring with Miami in 06.

I brought it up earlier, but do you think Clyde sold out with the Blazers?

 

[KingSpeed]

Who?



Almost got a second with Malones first. Cant remember who they lost to though.

Pistons

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I will say this: Dame wants to be the greatest Blazer ever, and in my opinion he is neck-and-neck with that traitor Drexler for 2nd place. But Bill Walton either got lucky with the right team and the right coach and won a chip in '77, or had perhaps the greatest, most dominate stretch between Fall of 76 and Spring of 78 an NBA Center ever had (probably some of both).. but Walton has three things Dame doesnt have and might need to take the mantle from the Redhead Hippie: a ring, a league MVP, and a Finals MVP. I hope Dame gets at least one of those.

Dames already a better Blazer than Walton.

Do you consider Rasheed Wallace one of the best Pistons of all time?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Pistons

Hows being back in nyc? You miss us back over here in small town oregon? Lol

Also. While you were here, did you visit many places outside Portland? Niagra falls, the gorge, the coast?
One of my favorite drives is following 224(?) out along the clackamas river towards the mountains.

If not, you should have.
I used to love to take drives in ny when i lived there. Every weekend id find a new road heading upstate, go get lost in the country and make my way back.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Dames already a better Blazer than Walton.

Do you consider Rasheed Wallace one of the best Pistons of all time?

Pistons have titles with teams that didn't have wallace on it.
Walton provided portland their only ring to date. Not that i don't disagree with your premise, but i think it comes with an asterisk.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Also. Will kawhi go down as best raptor ever? Quite possibly.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Pistons have titles with teams that didn't have wallace on it.
Walton provided portland their only ring to date. Not that i don't disagree with your premise, but i think it comes with an asterisk.

In 50 years will we consider Kawhi the best Raptor of all time?

Hell no.

Maybe he had one of the best seasons off all time.

Same with Walton. He had a better season than Dame. Dame and Drexler Blazers careers dwarf the accomplishments of Walton.

 

[Orion Bailey]

In 50 years will we consider Kawhi the best Raptor of all time?

Hell no.

Maybe he had one of the best seasons off all time.

Same with Walton. He had a better season than Dame but Dame and Drexler Blazers careers dwarf the accomplishments of Walton.

Thier respective seasons gave their franchises their only ring though. The ultimate goal is it not?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Thier respective seasons gave their franchises their only ring though. The ultimate goal is it not?

I do not believe it's title or bust.

It's more impressive that Durant carried OKC to the accomplisments they did then winning two rings with the warriors.

What if the jail Blazers won the title in 2000 would Rasheed be a better Blazer than Dame? No fucking way.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I do not believe it's title or bust.

It's more impressive that Durant carried OKC to the accompliaemts they did then winning two rings with the warriors.

What if the jail Blazers won the title in 2000 would Rasheed be a better Blazer than Dame? No fucking way.

I see it as Walton was the most talented Blazer ever, who had the best Blazer season ever. Drexler has the best career as a Blazer, but doesnt rep Portland or the Blazers at all or he’d be the best Blazer of all time. Dame is a top five Blazer talent of all time, who already has the 2nd best Blazer career of all time, and reps Portland in great ways. So to me you could pick any of those 3 and Id be ok with it (personal preferences and all that). Right now Id have Walton at one and Dame at 2, but I expect Dame to be #1 before too long.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I see it as Walton was the most talented Blazer ever, who had the best Blazer season ever. Drexler has the best career as a Blazer, but doesnt rep Portland or the Blazers at all or he’d be the best Blazer of all time. Dames is a top five Blazer talent of all time, who already has the 2nd best Blazer career of all time, and reps Portland in great ways. So to me you could pick any of those 3 and Id be ok with it (personal preference and a). Right now Id have Walton at one and Dame at 2, but I expect Dame to be #1 before too long.

Pretty much this.

 

[Hoopguru]

I do not believe it's title or bust.

It's more impressive that Durant carried OKC to the accomplisments they did then winning two rings with the warriors.

What if the jail Blazers won the title in 2000 would Rasheed be a better Blazer than Dame? No fucking way.

No way..but that was one hell of a team and probably much better than our current team at his point.

 

[julius]

Damon should totally force his way to the Lakers, so he'll be remembered as a title winner.

That way, he won't be forgotten like Carlton Malone, Karl Barkley, Jim Stockton, Peter Ewing, Donald Wilkins, Terry McGrady, Pat Maravich, and Sean Kemp.

Thank GOD that Gary Payton won a title with Miami, and was an integral part to their team winning, otherwise no one would remember him.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Dames already a better Blazer than Walton.

Do you consider Rasheed Wallace one of the best Pistons of all time?

Dame is not a better Blazer than Walton. Not yet. He's great. No Blazer has ever been as good as Walton from 76-78. Dame hasn't come close yet. Walton was the best player in the world over that stretch.

I hope Dame tops that stretch as a Blazer and retires as a Blazer. It couldn't happen to a better guy.

I can't think of a player I'd rather be our leader in today's NBA than Lillard.

I don't consider Sheed the best anything. He's not even in the conversation.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Damon should totally force his way to the Lakers, so he'll be remembered as a title winner.

That way, he won't be forgotten like Carlton Malone, Karl Barkley, Jim Stockton, Peter Ewing, Donald Wilkins, Terry McGrady, Pat Maravich, and Sean Kemp.

Thank GOD that Gary Payton won a title with Miami, and was an integral part to their team winning, otherwise no one would remember him.

HAHA

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Dame is not a better Blazer than Walton. Not yet. He's great. No Blazer has ever been as good as Walton from 76-78. Dame hasn't come close yet. Walton was the best player in the world over that stretch.

I hope Dame tops that stretch as a Blazer and retires as a Blazer. It couldn't happen to a better guy.

I can't think of a player I'd rather be our leader in today's NBA than Lillard.

I recently watched the 1977 finals and I think DR. J was better than Walton, but the Blazers were a better team and had players in positions that could take advantage of the 76ers. Im not trying to put down Walton but the Blazers had no idea how to stop Dr. J, that dude was unbelievable.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I brought it up earlier, but do you think Clyde sold out with the Blazers?

I don't think Clyde sold out because the team decided to go young and rebuild in his last productive years. At least that's how I heard it.

He wanted to win and the front office decided it was time to make a change (a lot of changes). Got rid of Adelman and Petrie...

The team wasn't committed to continuing what Drexler and the guys had built so it wasn't the same team anymore.

It hurt his status as a Blazer, but I don't consider it a sellout.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I recently watched the 1977 finals and I think DR. J was better than Walton, but the Blazers were a better team and had players in positions that could take advantage of the 76ers. Im not trying to put down Walton but the Blazers had no idea how to stop Dr. J, that dude was unbelievable.

I would argue that Bill Walton was the far superior player.

A player averages 30pts, 7rebs, 5 assists in a series all the time. Seems like every series has a guy who does that. How often do players have 19pts, 19rebs, 5 assists, and nearly 4 blocks over a series? Not very often.

And Dr J's defense was HORRIBLE. So lazy.

In interviews Dr Jack even called him a lazy defender, and he set our offense up to take advantage Dr J's lazy defensive tendencies.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1977-nba-finals-trail-blazers-vs-76ers.html