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OSUBlazerfan said:
I think Minny would rather do rubio for Crabbe straight across, if anything.
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You could be right. I'm honestly not sure how I'd feel about that... I definitely think we need a consistent, reliable backup PG, and his contract is at least a little more palatable than AC's, but if we learned anything in the playoffs this year, its that knockdown shooters are not growing on trees. And YES, I realize that Crabbe wasn't exactly a knockdown shooter in the playoffs, but in general, those guys are in high demand. Frankly, I think we could do better than just Rubio for Crabbe...
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
I think Minny would rather do rubio for Crabbe straight across, if anything.
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But why would Portland do that? Our second unit would consist of Rubio, Turner, and Aminu. Good luck trying to score.
 
Scalma said:
But why would Portland do that? Our second unit would consist of Rubio, Turner, and Aminu. Good luck trying to score.
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Only to relieve some pressure from Crabbe's contract. But yea, the shooting on the second unit would be atrocious.
 
just saw in the nba offseason thread the nba all defensive teams and players receiving votes. one that stood out to me surprisingly was philidelphia's Robert Covington. he received more votes(including 2 1st team votes) than PG13, iguodala and jae crowder among others with a defensive reputation. is he attainable?
 
To Portland:
Patrick Beverly

To Houston:
Protected 2018 first-rounder
 
Ezeli + Meyers
For
Rubio + Bjelica

Would give the wolves about $24mil in cap space to play with this summer. Rubio would be a fantastic 3rd guard for us and shed Meyers salary a year earlier. Bjelica is filler.
 
Schilly said:
Ezeli + Meyers
For
Rubio + Bjelica

Would give the wolves about $24mil in cap space to play with this summer. Rubio would be a fantastic 3rd guard for us and shed Meyers salary a year earlier. Bjelica is filler.
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I'd try and trade Meyers for Jeremy Lin than Rubio...
 
lawai'a said:
just saw in the nba offseason thread the nba all defensive teams and players receiving votes. one that stood out to me surprisingly was philidelphia's Robert Covington. he received more votes(including 2 1st team votes) than PG13, iguodala and jae crowder among others with a defensive reputation. is he attainable?
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Covington came in fourth in the DPotY award voting. I didn't realize he was that highly regarded defensively. He might be available, but he probably won't be cheap. Especially since he's a 35% three-point shooter. Not great, but competent--right around league average. Seems like a perfect complementary player for the team Philadelphia is building.
 
Bulls cut Michael Carter-Williams loose.

A 6'6" PG would go well with either CJ or Dame, and he'd probably come cheap.

He's incredibly injury prone, though. The bright side is he's put up _some_ good numbers in the past. He might be worth a gamble.

He's one year past a pretty good season (when he played). He's not a distance shooter.

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Denny Crane said:
Bulls cut Michael Carter-Williams loose.

A 6'6" PG would go well with either CJ or Dame, and he'd probably come cheap.

He's incredibly injury prone, though. The bright side is he's put up _some_ good numbers in the past. He might be worth a gamble.

He's one year past a pretty good season (when he played). He's not a distance shooter.

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For the MLE, beggars can't really be choosers. Maybe he develops into a Shaun Livingston type. I wouldn't mind mcw.
 
Scalma said:
For the MLE, beggars can't really be choosers. Maybe he develops into a Shaun Livingston type. I wouldn't mind mcw.
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I think he's worth the vet minimum. I wouldn't use the MLE on him, or any part of the MLE.
 
Denny Crane said:
Bulls cut Michael Carter-Williams loose.

A 6'6" PG would go well with either CJ or Dame, and he'd probably come cheap.

He's incredibly injury prone, though. The bright side is he's put up _some_ good numbers in the past. He might be worth a gamble.

He's one year past a pretty good season (when he played). He's not a distance shooter.

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Is he a good defender or just tall for a point guard? Height is a little overrated for guards IMO especially when you have Chris Paul on the 1st team all defensive squad every year who is under 6'.
 
RipCityDSCPL said:
HE'S OVERPAID BECAUSE HE'S NOT A CONSISTENT STARTER AND DOESN'T GET THE MINUTES TO SCORE THE AMOUNT OF POINTS HE NEEDS TO JUSTIFY THE CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do people not understand this?

Your Allen Crabbe hate is clouding your judgement.
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Somebody needs to calm the fuck down. Allen Crabbe didn't even look good in summer league when he was the starter... Get over it.
 
dviss1 said:
Allen Crabbe didn't even look good in summer league when he was the starter...
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I don't think that's true....

15.5 pts on 53% shooting in 24 minutes per game (before he went down with an injury.)

To give some perspective, the top two scorers from Vegas that year (2015) were Seth Curry and Zach LaVine. They averaged 24 and 22 points respectively. They played 33 minutes per game and shot 46% and 32.4% from the field.

So if Crabbe HAD played 33 minutes per game instead of only 24, and at the rate he was shooting, he probably would have been right up there with them in terms of scoring. He did fine.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't think that's true....

15.5 pts on 53% shooting in 24 minutes per game (before he went down with an injury.)

To give some perspective, the top two scorers from Vegas that year (2015) were Seth Curry and Zach LaVine. They averaged 24 and 22 points respectively. They played 33 minutes per game and shot 46% and 32.4% from the field.

So if Crabbe HAD played 33 minutes per game instead of only 24, and at the rate he was shooting, he probably would have been right up there with them in terms of scoring. He did fine.
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Are we really using his third summer league performance as a justification for paying him 19m this season? I think everyone here would trade Allan Crabbe for either one of those two players because they are better basketball players in almost every conceivable metric. Allan Crabbe is trash. Get your head around this folks, Kyle Corver at 36 or however old he is has more value than Crabbe, and for good reason. The list of all the things Crabbe is poor at is everything involved in playing basketball minus shoot open threes. But remember that one time, he was kinda good in summer league? right guys? ...right?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
We can't make an unbalanced trade because we are over the cap. But maybe Napier and Davis for Beverly. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y92kleys
I actually like this trade and I think Houston might also.
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I forgot my own post somewhere that reminds that Houston would be trying to clear cap space for this summer by trading Beverly so I guess we would have to find a third team. OK, then, Beverly to Portland, Mozgov to Portland and Crabbe to NJ. However, in return for taking on almost as bad a contract as Crabbe's for a player worth nothing, Brooklyn also has to take Leonard!
 
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chzbrgr said:
Are we really using his third summer league performance as a justification for paying him 19m this season?
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No, what we're doing is not accepting disingenuous arguments in opposition to paying him. Most agree that he's over paid, precisely for the reasons you posted. We don't need to invent false narratives like, "He didn't even look good in summer league as a starter," when the truth about his limitations is already so damning.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Is he a good defender or just tall for a point guard? Height is a little overrated for guards IMO especially when you have Chris Paul on the 1st team all defensive squad every year who is under 6'.
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His per 100 possession defense seems really good.
 
Denny Crane said:
Bulls cut Michael Carter-Williams loose.

A 6'6" PG would go well with either CJ or Dame, and he'd probably come cheap.

He's incredibly injury prone, though. The bright side is he's put up _some_ good numbers in the past. He might be worth a gamble.

He's one year past a pretty good season (when he played). He's not a distance shooter.

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MCW is like a worse version of ET without the defense.
 
BonesJones said:
MCW is like a worse version of ET without the defense.
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Without the defense? His defense looks quite good.

EDIT: Only Nurk (on the Blazers) had a better DRtg last season.
 
chzbrgr said:
Are we really using his third summer league performance as a justification for paying him 19m this season? I think everyone here would trade Allan Crabbe for either one of those two players because they are better basketball players in almost every conceivable metric. Allan Crabbe is trash. Get your head around this folks, Kyle Corver at 36 or however old he is has more value than Crabbe, and for good reason. The list of all the things Crabbe is poor at is everything involved in playing basketball minus shoot open threes. But remember that one time, he was kinda good in summer league? right guys? ...right?
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I didn't say anything about his contract. Dviss said he looked bad even as a starter in SL and I'm just showing that his statement was false. That's all, no more, no less.
 
dviss1 said:
Somebody needs to calm the fuck down. Allen Crabbe didn't even look good in summer league when he was the starter... Get over it.
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First: That was a AB conversation so C your way out of it.
Second: Make me
 
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