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SlyPokerDog said:
Nunes says he didn't read FISA applications

Rep. Devin Nunes, Chairman of the Intelligence Committee admits he did not read the FISA applications before writing the memo.

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I'm trying to find the relevance to our present topic contained in the video. Your insight would be appreciated.
 
Just finished watch PBS News tonight.
Man we seriously need to stop funding this crap. I rarely watch it but have just put a TV on the boat and therefore watching more TV than normal.
These people are pure Democrat shills! Without apology or remorse. Write your representative to get that funding squelched.

They don't even see abuse of the Fisa court as an issue.
 
MarAzul said:
Just finished watch PBS News tonight.
Man we seriously need to stop funding this crap. I rarely watch it but have just put a TV on the boat and therefore watching more TV than normal.
These people are pure Democrat shills! Without apology or remorse. Write your representative to get that funding squelched.

They don't even see abuse of the Fisa court as an issue.
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*plays world's smallest violin*
 
How can Rosenstein sign for a FISA court approval base on a bogus Democrat claims and also be the man to start an investigation?
Shit, by his own actions he is a partisan of the worse kind and should not even be part of the executive branch at least now. No doubt he was a loyal partisan in the last administration. He signed a bogus FISA court document.
 
theprunetang said:
What a bunch of built up garbage. After reading the memo, I feel like a buddhist contemplating the meaning of nothingness.
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I appreciate your feelings of garbage building up. However, it would be helpful if you would provide elucidation of what is building up and what specifically makes it garbage.
 
I enjoy the narrative that Trump is being persecuted by a "deep state" made up of his own nominees--Christopher Wray, Rod Rosenstein, etc.

This conspiracy goes deep--all the way down to the guys Trump picked for his government!
 
Mote said:
I appreciate your feelings of garbage building up. However, it would be helpful if you would provide elucidation of what is building up and what specifically makes it garbage.
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I'll pass on detailed specifics of garbage myself....keep a lid on it ....maybe throw on some bleach while I'm at it
 
Minstrel said:
I enjoy the narrative that Trump is being persecuted by a "deep state" made up of his own nominees--Christopher Wray, Rod Rosenstein, etc.

This conspiracy goes deep--all the way down to the guys Trump picked for his government!
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None of the people involved were part of Trump government then. You have the wrong chief executive.

But it is ironic that one of the guys that signed for bogus Fisa orders was indeed nominated to continue in the department by Trump.
He repaid Trump by Hiring the Special Counsel.

Ha! I bet he feels secure! Heh heh! How many days before shit happens?
Does this sound like good career planning? Ha!:tongue:
 
MarAzul said:
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None of the people involved were part of Trump government then. You have the wrong chief executive.

But it is ironic that one of the guys that signed for bogus Fisa orders was indeed nominated to continue in the department by Trump.
He repaid Trump by Hiring the Special Counsel.

Ha! I bet he feels secure! Heh heh! How many days before shit happens?
Does this sound like good career planning? Ha!:tongue:
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Cults are fascinating.... Oh shit. Wrong thread.
 
I give Mar Azul a pass because I saw a photo of him sanding his boat without a charcoal particulate filter mask....the side affects are not good...being a "feeling" guy...I empathize
 
riverman said:
I'll pass on detailed specifics of garbage myself....keep a lid on it ....maybe throw on some bleach while I'm at it
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I will half agree as this will be untenable from all sides. However, much like a bandage left on too long, or more appropriately a wound that needs to be scrubbed with surgical iodine solution, the remedy for this infection is not isolated to a particular political party and has the need to be sterilized before the patient dies from the spreading infection. The corruption our country faces is the systemic growth of globalism which has firmly embedded itself into both the Republican and Democratic parties. We, as a people, need to face the truth and do serious surgery with the hopeful removal of malignant lifetime public servants who serve no one but themselves.
 
Minstrel said:
I enjoy the narrative that Trump is being persecuted by a "deep state" made up of his own nominees--Christopher Wray, Rod Rosenstein, etc.

This conspiracy goes deep--all the way down to the guys Trump picked for his government!
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It's even better, the FBI nuked Hillary's campaign right before the election so they can get Trump elected so they could stage a coup to get Hillary in office. Sense.Perfect.Makes.
 
Sly... I genuinely like you as an online personality and think you are an outstanding Mod...

SlyPokerDog said:
It's even better, the FBI nuked Hillary's campaign right before the election so they can get Trump elected so they could stage a coup to get Hillary in office. Sense.Perfect.Makes.
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That being said, I can't help myself and have to say...

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barfo said:
None of that is true.

If it were the case that targets could impede investigations they considered illegitimate, no investigation would ever happen, because every target would use that as an excuse to impede.

Targets don't get to decide if the investigation is legit.

barfo
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Judges do, and if the supposed crime isn't material to some other crime, it'll be thrown out. Like Clinocchio's lie under oath about Lewinsky - which was (in your mind - by your definition) obstruction.
 
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I’m betting that on th surface this memo will look bad but deeper analysis should show that it’s a nothing burger. But by that time all those cheerleading republicans will have mad up their mind for eternity.

It’s supposed to be about Carter Page and fisa courts approving surveillance however it will be about the third or fourth time he was under the scope of the feds going back to 2013 where those he was involved with were convicted of being Russian spies.

It’s either nothing burger or could backfire.
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Why on earth hasn't Page been arrested and charged after all this time?

After all, he's an agent of a foreign power committing espionage!

(or not)
 
Chris Craig said:
Donald Drumpfh is now not only further obstructing the Russia investigation, he is releasing a government document and putting our national security at risk. The republicans already knee deep in his shit are following him down the rabbit hole.
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What risk?

Geez.


Get a grip.
 
barfo said:
Or instead, how about if presidential candidates don't hire Russian spies? That would also solve the problem.

barfo
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Hillary Clinton and the DNC are the only ones we actually know actually hired Russian spies.

The only known collusion with Russians, too.
 
barfo said:
Sez you. But you don't actually know what the FBI has or hasn't verified. And besides, probable cause is the relevant standard here, not proof.



If they have reason to believe you, they will indeed harass me. As they should.



Justice. Duh.



That's likely true.

barfo
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You really need to stop posting about the law. You're clueless.
 
Bunch of posts in a row, responding as I caught up (was away for a day+).

I don't think the memo vindicates Trump.

What I do think is the memo does show FISA was abused and the Trump campaign wrongly targeted. Certainly malfeasance by the DoJ and Justice Dept, but we saw abuse of agencies going on for much of the Obama years.

FISA was not meant to spy on US citizens, period. Carter Page is a citizen, like him or not.

If Mueller were truly honest and honorable, Comey would be investigated as would members of the Obama administration, and perhaps some of Trump's FBI/DoJ hires. Unmasking, for example. Those things DO fall under his mandate as Special Counsel. That he's not, or at least the biased media isn't reporting it, does add some merit to certain claims against Comey's investigation.

Trump is not responsible for the firing or reassignment of several of the FBI's top officials, other than Comey. Strzok is the most publicized, but several others who testified before the congressional committees have been reassigned (DEMOTED) or quit.

Follow the trail of bodies.

Bruce Ohr, specifically mentioned in the memo.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/d...trump-dossier-leaves-another-high-level-post/

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370338-former-comey-aide-rybicki-leaving-fbi
https://www.politico.com/story/2018...ief-staff-james-rybicki-zachary-harmon-360100
https://www.politico.com/story/2017...bi-james-baker-david-corn-mother-jones-316157

https://sharylattkisson.com/2017/12/25/investigating-the-investigators-at-doj-and-fbi/
Eight high ranking Department of Justice and FBI officials have been removed, reassigned or are rumored to be leaving. They include the top FBI agents who worked on two of the agency’s most high-profile investigations in the past two years: the probe into Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of classified information as secretary of state, and the Trump-Russia collusion investigation.​
 
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Last post for now.

Everyone thought Hiliar was going to win and win big. The poll said so.

That's the answer to all the literally stupid claims that the FBI somehow acted to hurt her campaign and give the election to Trump. They were covering their asses, as the text messages between agents (that we've seen) have shown. They were certain they weren't going to harm her chances (enough).

The FBI had no choice because the email server was discovered during the Benhazi PUBLIC congressional hearings.
 
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