Politics #ReleaseTheMemo ?

[MarAzul]

yep...the Russians did all this...which is why it's being investigated.....more to come...now Trump has to be careful about obstruction...that's his problem here..according to the news...he didn't even read the memo...just filled in the blanks with insults aimed at the opposition

You know, river my friend, your post makes no sense. You must know there is nothing about Russian's wiretapping Trump in any of this.

 

[riverman]

You know, river my friend, your post makes no sense. You must know there is nothing about Russian's wiretapping Trump in any of this.

who said wiretapping? you have read the back cover of a novel without finishing the book...which has limited your view of the story ....more to come...the dems are not innocent in this....neither is Trump's camp...it's a case of ugly vs ugly....which is why I'll never vote dem or republican again

 

[MarAzul]

according to the fake news

fify

 

[riverman]

fify

fake leadership leads to fake news...make America fake again

 

[MarAzul]

wiretapping?

Well I just did!

Don't you remember how that word was used over and over, dissected for months last year? Ridiculed no end. Turns out to be spot on.

 

[Shaboid]

Absolutely true!
But it does prove his team was "wiretapped" by the government at the highest levels, using untruthful means to gain authorization.

Remember how silly it was to think anyone Wiretapped anyone on the Trump team? The word itself was held to ridicule.

From the information they released, sure, that's what you will pull from it. There could easily be more information that they haven't given us. That's what I'm concerned with. It's totally political to make a memo about a set of things when there is definitely more to the story.

I'm not going to speak to the veracity of the "dossier", as I haven't read it. I doubt you have either.

And no, I don't remember that. Link?

 

[MarAzul]

There could easily be more information that they haven't given us.

>>>> Oh! I think you can be sure of it.

And no, I don't remember that. Link?

>>>> Too bad because that is what this memo is all about. That is all it proves. The buggers did the deed.
It wasn't a link it was the topic of the day with multiple links.

 

[riverman]

It wasn't a link it was the topic of the day with multiple links.

to be found and read at any fake news site I'm guessing

 

[MarAzul]

to be found and read at any fake news site I'm guessing

Naw!
Any honest man can do it.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/02/obama-trump-tower-wiretap-no-evidence-242284

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...wires-tapped-by-obama/?utm_term=.e2cd78a13703

"James Clapper, the director of national intelligence under Obama, said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” following Trump’s tweets that he would have known about a “FISA court order on something like this. Absolutely, I can deny it.”

Then-FBI Director James Comey said in a congressional testimony after Trump’s tweets that neither his agency nor the Justice Department had evidence to support the president’s allegations. In a court filing in early September 2017, Trump’s own Justice Department and the FBI again said they did not have evidence to support Trump’s claims."
The Pinocchio Test
"There is no new detail in the Sept. 19 CNN report that warrants a change to our original Four-Pinocchio rating. Trump had claimed that Obama ordered the wiretapping of his phones in Trump Tower just before the presidential election. That allegation remains unproven."


on and on
https://www.google.com/search?q=Trump+Wire+Tapped&client=aff-maxthon-newtab&channel=t2

 

[barfo]

Absolutely true!
But it does prove his team was "wiretapped" by the government at the highest levels, using untruthful means to gain authorization.

Remember how silly it was to think anyone Wiretapped anyone on the Trump team? The word itself was held to ridicule.

Trump said he was wiretapped. He wasn't. He also said he'd never met Carter Page and Page was just a campaign volunteer that no one knew.

There's nothing been shown to be untruthful about the FISA warrant application, and Carter Page was a known Russian asset.

barfo

 

[barfo]

I'm not going to speak to the veracity of the "dossier", as I haven't read it. I doubt you have either.

But I have, and a lot of it has in fact been verified. We don't have the pee tape yet, however.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Don’t know but there are rumors he’s flipped

He flipped in 2013, 2014, 2015... ?

 

[Denny Crane]

You really need to stop posting when you have no argument to make. It just makes it obvious that you're defeated.

barfo

You were called on your nonsense legal theories. Get over yourself.

 

[Denny Crane]

Trump said he was wiretapped. He wasn't. He also said he'd never met Carter Page and Page was just a campaign volunteer that no one knew.

There's nothing been shown to be untruthful about the FISA warrant application, and Carter Page was a known Russian asset.

barfo

He was wiretapped. The spin version is he wasn't.

Yet there was a server at Trump Tower that the feds were indeed spying on. That's been written about numerous times in the public record, and was one of the earlier hair on fire moments that turned out to be a nothingburger (as are all the rest).

 

[Denny Crane]

And is Trump a judge? No? Then he doesn't get to decide what gets thrown out. Like I was saying.



Uhm... didn't Clinton get impeached for obstruction of justice? Pretty sure he did. So I guess it was obstruction by someone else's definition also.

barfo

You're not a judge.

I can only see what a judge actually does, and you got it 100% wrong.

Impeachment isn't a legal issue, it's a political one.

Clinton's impeachment articles cited witness tampering. Never heard a thing even close to that about Trump.

 

[riverman]

Yet there was a server at Trump Tower that the feds were indeed spying on

There were Russian mobsters doing business in Trump Tower...no coincidence...they had the office right below Trump's apartment...I'd imagine they had access to the Trump Tower server...not a big stretch

 

[riverman]

You're not a judge.

fact...you actually don't know this...barfo may be a judge

 

[Denny Crane]

fact...you actually don't know this...barfo may be a judge

If he is, he's the worst one ever, without a clue about the Law.

 

[Denny Crane]

There were Russian mobsters doing business in Trump Tower...no coincidence...they had the office right below Trump's apartment...I'd imagine they had access to the Trump Tower server...not a big stretch

LOL

 

[riverman]

LOL

No selfies please Denny

 

[Denny Crane]

No selfies please Denny

I thought it was you buying into ridiculous conspiracy theories.

But you are refuting barfo's claim that Trump (and Trump tower) wasn't wiretapped.

 

[riverman]

LOL

read:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...on-us-money-laundering-alimzhan-a7642851.html

 

[riverman]

I thought it was you buying into ridiculous conspiracy theories.

But you are refuting barfo's claim that Trump (and Trump tower) wasn't wiretapped.

trump tower was wiretapped....which raised flags..Russian money laundering was the target.started two years before his campaign..follow the money

 

[riverman]

I thought it was you buying into ridiculous conspiracy theories.

But you are refuting barfo's claim that Trump (and Trump tower) wasn't wiretapped.

I don't have conspiracy theories...I have an extreme dislike and distrust of Donald Trump....happens when assholes cry wolf over and over and lie without remorse or admission....I do feel govt has been corrupt for a long, long time...hence my vote for change..you continue to prop him up...I refuse to

 

[barfo]

You were called on your nonsense legal theories. Get over yourself.

Nope, you just said 'you're wrong'. That isn't calling me on anything. That's kindergarten level debating.

barfo

 

[barfo]

You're not a judge.

Correct so far. Neither are you.

I can only see what a judge actually does, and you got it 100% wrong.

Don't even know what you mean by that. You can only see what a judge does? Must make it hard to drive.

Impeachment isn't a legal issue, it's a political one.

Duh.

Clinton's impeachment articles cited witness tampering. Never heard a thing even close to that about Trump.

Actually you would have heard something like that about Trump if you'd weren't so blinded to anything negative about him.

But anyway, nobody said Trump's actions are exactly the same as Clinton's actions.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

If he is, he's the worst one ever, without a clue about the Law.

Barfo Sotominor

 

[BrianFromWA]

Barfo Sotominor

No personal insults...even OT.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No personal insults...even OT.

It was a minor one.

 

[barfo]

I guess you Trumpettes are pretty pissed at Trey Gowdy right now, huh? The hero of Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi has let your team down.

Keep in mind that Gowdy is the one Republican that actually read the FISA warrant:

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said a GOP memo alleging FBI misconduct has nothing to do with special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's actions in the 2016 election and possible links to President Donald Trump's campaign.

"Not to me, it doesn't — and I was pretty integrally involved in the drafting of it," Gowdy told CBS's Margaret Brennan for an interview set to air on "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "There is a Russia investigation without a dossier. So to the extent the memo deals with the dossier and the FISA process, the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower."


"The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. The dossier really has nothing to do with George Papadopoulos' meeting in Great Britain. It also doesn't have anything to do with obstruction of justice."

barfo