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Lmao. That's about as empirical as studying piles of shit and saying this was the moment atheism decided to stop believing
 
I believe the premise, but ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_race_and_intelligence_controversy

In 1912 the Columbia psychology graduate Frank Bruner reviewed the scientific literature on auditory perception in black and white subjects in Psychological Bulletin,[12] characterizing, "the mental qualities of the Negro as: lacking in filial affection, strong migratory instincts and tendencies; little sense of veneration, integrity or honor; shiftless, indolent, untidy, improvident, extravagant, lazy, lacking in persistence and initiative and unwilling to work continuously at details. Indeed, experience with the Negro in classrooms indicates that it is impossible to get the child to do anything with continued accuracy, and similarly in industrial pursuits, the Negro shows a woeful lack of power of sustained activity and constructive conduct."[6]

In 1916 George O. Ferguson conducted research in his Columbia Ph.D. thesis on "The psychology of the Negro",[13] finding them poor in abstract thought, but good in physical responses, recommending how this should be reflected in education.[14] In the same year Lewis Terman, in the manual accompanying the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Test,[15] referred to the higher frequency of morons among non-white American racial groups stating that further research into race difference on intelligence should be conducted and that the "enormously significant racial differences in general intelligence" could not be remedied by education.[14]

(Those are those early IQ test type studies)

In 1965 William Shockley, Nobel laureate in physics and professor at Stanford University, made a public statement at the Nobel conference on "Genetics and the Future of Man" about the problems of "genetic deterioration" in humans caused by "evolution in reverse". He claimed social support systems designed to help the disadvantaged had a regressive effect. Shockley subsequently claimed the most competent American population group were the descendants of original European settlers, because of the extreme selective pressures imposed by the harsh conditions of early colonialism.[37] Speaking of the "genetic enslavement" of African Americans, owing to an abnormally high birth rate, Shockley discouraged improved education as a remedy, suggesting instead sterilization and birth control.

(more recent)
 
I thought that was the point? Less educated people are more likely to be religious than more educated (smarter) people.

No the point is there are a large demographic of very intelligent theists; but this researcher used the less fortunate areas to fudge the numbers; just as the researcher that used this same demographic for blacks and Mexicans in the us.

When you are in poverty, atheism is harder to believe in. They tend to flock towards beliefs that support humanity will go into glory; which has nothing to do with stature.
 
come on, a guy cant even make a play on McDonalds "Over X served".......

What's funny is when they kid and someone gets offended, they get all worked up. If we kid, then they get all worked up.

Regardless, this study is about as useful as the piece of toilet paper I used to wipe my ass. Until they make a real study based on real demographics, then I can take studies like these seriously. If they are being used and fudged to serve their own agendas, then it's worthless.

^^^^ note to atheist saying the same for theist studies. Take some of your own advice assholes!
 
According to population reference bureau as of 2011
NUMBER WHO HAVE EVER BEEN BORN 107,602,707,791
http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2011/HowManyPeopleHaveEverLivedonEarth.aspx

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2011/HowManyPeopleHaveEverLivedonEarth.aspx

And semi-scientific it must be, because there are, of course, absolutely no demographic data available for 99 percent of the span of the human stay on Earth. Still, with some speculation concerning prehistoric populations, we can at least approach a guesstimate of this elusive number.

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If there are 40 billion people in hell that would mean god is a giant failure.

what ever the true number, (and I was just kidding when I posted that) the fault is not on God..he has given us all free will..he has sent out the invites and if they are refused..well, thats on those who choose to not attend..
 
what ever the true number, (and I was just kidding when I posted that) the fault is not on God..he has given us all free will..he has sent out the invites and if they are refused..well, thats on those who choose to not attend..

Amen
 
My friend is much smarter than I am (not saying much TBH) and he is extremely religious. People have their own reasons for choosing faith.
 
what ever the true number, (and I was just kidding when I posted that) the fault is not on God..he has given us all free will..he has sent out the invites and if they are refused..well, thats on those who choose to not attend..

LOL! My answer was based on your 40 billion number.
 
This seems like one of those, "Well, duh", kind of studies. I would fully expect that atheists by nature are pretty intelligent. They tend to be analytic, well educated, and think deeply about their place in nature. Whereas the "religious" group includes a full spectrum of IQs and education within the general population, atheists are typically drawn from the upper level of education. Naturally, the median IQ of a general population is going to be lower than the IQ of a group that tends to be drawn from the upper strata of education and intelligence. A more interesting question would be what percentages of a group selected to be within the same intelligence and education level identify themselves as atheist or religious.
 
The original post seems to be lacking in intelligence, since the 'study' was more observational than empirical.
 
No the point is there are a large demographic of very intelligent theists; but this researcher used the less fortunate areas to fudge the numbers; just as the researcher that used this same demographic for blacks and Mexicans in the us.

When you are in poverty, atheism is harder to believe in. They tend to flock towards beliefs that support humanity will go into glory; which has nothing to do with stature.

^^THIS^^

I post this as a non-religious agnostic. The uber-intelligent atheists patting themselves on the back for this study in this thread didn't even read the details of the study, which is clearly biased and is completely unscientific. That is ironic. Denny, take notes on the irony.
 

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