Report: Dame won’t sit out if traded to non-Miami team

[Reep]

As far as I understand, public acknowledgment of trade requests are subject to a fine from the league.

I guess I wasn't thinking directly from Dame. Through his agent or back channels. They clearly know how to do that.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So, Dame to the Heat, Herro/Robinson the the Wolves, KAT to....let's say Brooklyn, and Claxton/Simmons to Portland?

 

[PCmor7]

If that is true, then for his own reputation he should come out and say that he just wants to be traded to a contending team. Not saying anything doesn't really help. Yes, he will not sit out, but nobody will trade value for an unhappy, but playing, Dame.

He's not going to be unhappy playing on a good team with a good locker room. Dame might have done an about-face and showed us he wasn't the guy off the court he presented to us the last dozen years, but you can't fake the effort and dedication he gave on the court. He's going to be a professional in that respect and, if he's in a good situation that isn't Miami, he's still going to give 110% every night and not going to think about "I wish I was on the Heat."

 

[illmatic99]

You're saying will not be back for the '23-'24 season? (So he's traded in the next 3 months?)

I don't especially love KAT, but I think thats a risk you take if the price is cheap. Id rather have KAT over Ayton any day of the week

I think people rightfully have sticker shock with his contract.

23: 36 mil
24: 49 mil
25: 53 mil
26: 57 mil
27: 61 mil PO.

He's gonna be between 35-37% of the cap every year until he is 33.

I don't see how Minny can get positive value back for that deal given his lack of impact towards winning.

This is Ayton, in contrast:
23: 32 mil
24: 34 mil
25: 36 mil

Looking at these side by side, I'd rather have Ayton, especially considering he'd still be only 28 at the end of that contract.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

So, Dame to the Heat, Herro/Robinson the the Wolves, KAT to....let's say Brooklyn, and Claxton/Simmons to Portland?

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That seems like a pretty bad shit-sandwich return to MIN for Towns. Is his contract THAT bad that they would have to accept a deal like that? Maybe it is. It would scary me to have his contract on our books even with how good he is.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That seems like a pretty bad shit-sandwich return to MIN for Towns. Is his contract THAT bad that they would have to accept a deal like that? Maybe it is. It would scary me to have his contract on our books even with how good he is.

Well, it's pretty much what Miami expects us to take for Dame, except for the fact that Minnesota could probably actually use Herro and Robinson. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that after last year's injury issues and overall subdued performance, KAT's trade value is a bit lower than Dame's (despite KAT being significantly younger)

 

[SharpesTriumph]

So, Dame to the Heat, Herro/Robinson the the Wolves, KAT to....let's say Brooklyn, and Claxton/Simmons to Portland?

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Good creativity. Miami makes out way too good in that deal though, they get to dump Duncan Robinson contract and keep Martin. I'd instead do this trade, Brooklyn keeps Claxton but gives up two additional picks. Timberwolves get Martin instead of Robinson but only one lesser value 1st. Blazers also get swaps with Miami in 2027+2029.

 

[blazerfan11]

This is promising news:

“According to people Matt Moore of The Action Network spoke to, Lillard is not expected to sit out if he’s traded somewhere he doesn’t want to be.”

Great. Send him to Minnesota.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nb...1&cvid=c96c0108541f48f9b6638e8d6c52945d&ei=10

Heck no! to Minnesota.
Send Dame to Detroit for Ausar Thompson and Jalen Duren.

 

[blazerfan11]

So the Blazers have gone from Tyler Herro to Karl Anthony Towns?
What is going on??

 

[blazerfan11]

Well, it's pretty much what Miami expects us to take for Dame, except for the fact that Minnesota could probably actually use Herro and Robinson. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that after last year's injury issues and overall subdued performance, KAT's trade value is a bit lower than Dame's (despite KAT being significantly younger)

Zion Williamson is only 23 years old.
We are talking about playing basketball in the NBA next season, not an actuary table.

 

[blazerfan11]

Duh. Cronin never wanted to trade Dame.

 

[PDXFonz]

We will be the joke of the league if we get Ben Simmons.

Don’t y’all realize how much league fans clown on the dude?

 

[Idog1976]

Lebatard will accuse WOJ of somehow influencing this report!

Alot of people don't realize that the "Leba" is silent in Lebatard. Although I think everyone on this board gets that in a very real sense.

 

[KingSpeed]

We will be the joke of the league if we get Ben Simmons.

Don’t y’all realize how much league fans clown on the dude?

Ben Simmons is an All NBA talent who is still very young. No we wouldn’t be the joke of the league:

 

[Idog1976]

So, Dame to the Heat, Herro/Robinson the the Wolves, KAT to....let's say Brooklyn, and Claxton/Simmons to Portland?

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I like this, but I want different picks. Either further out, or from different teams. Doesn't Brooklyn have a bajillion picks from like 3-4 teams? I'd prefer the soon to be very valuable Sixers picks.

 

[sheed30]

Ben Simmons is an All NBA talent who is still very young. No we wouldn’t be the joke of the league:

Bro, have you been watching him the last couple years? No one wants Simmons and his game is regressing.

 

[PDXFonz]

Ben Simmons is an All NBA talent who is still very young. No we wouldn’t be the joke of the league:

I’m going to be so pissed if we end up with that scrub.

At least I can laugh at the people who wanted him and get upset with him.

 

[THE HCP]

Great example here. “Someone with knowledge” What if they are reading THIS forum and then sending it out there.
“Somebody with a source talked to somebody in Minny and says KAT is heading to Portland”
Sigh

 

[THE HCP]

We will be the joke of the league if we get Ben Simmons.

Don’t y’all realize how much league fans clown on the dude?

First off who cares what the league thinks of us. Secondly I’d take him in a heartbeat. No risk, expiring contract next season. That’s be fantastic by the way.
And once again who cares what the league thinks about us?

 

[THE HCP]

So the Blazers have gone from Tyler Herro to Karl Anthony Towns?
What is going on??

LINK?

 

[sheed30]

First off who cares what the league thinks of us. Secondly I’d take him in a heartbeat. No risk, expiring contract next season. That’s be fantastic by the way.
And once again who cares what the league thinks about us?

I think he has two years left on his contract, so he wouldn’t be a free agent after this season

I don’t care what other fans think, I just don’t want that head-case on our team.

only way I would be ok getting him is if we get someone like KAT or Claxton back

 

[THE HCP]

Bro, have you been watching him the last couple years? No one wants Simmons and his game is regressing.

This is all hypothetical of course, but you are assuming we would want to acquire him for his game and the way he plays? I’m thinking more of an asset. That amount of money coming off the books next season is a good thing right?

 

[THE HCP]

I think he has two years left on his contract, so he wouldn’t be a free agent after this season

I don’t care what other fans think, I just don’t want that head-case on our team.

only way I would be ok getting him is if we get someone like KAT or Claxton back

Yeah the head case part might definitely be a negative. Not sure we want him around our young guys. It would be nice having a 6’10 skilled player agin though.

 

[illmatic99]

Ben Simmons is an All NBA talent who is still very young. No we wouldn’t be the joke of the league:

Was. He's not ready to play. Only way I take him back is if he comes with Claxton and picks.

 

[KingSpeed]

Bro, have you been watching him the last couple years? No one wants Simmons and his game is regressing.

He had mental health issues and back issues but he was playing great last season when the Nets were stable and had an 18-2 stretch. Look it up. The talent is still there but he’s been in a bad situation the last 2 seasons. Give him stability and he is still very valuable.

 

[HansenYang]

Based on how they play, I actually think Ben Simmons & KAT could be excellent paired up together. Both have very unique skills that allow them to impact the game in a variety of ways, but their skill sets are very complementary. (As long as you can keep their head in the game appropriately).

I like the idea of this trade:


The roster would look like this after the trade:

PG: Scoot, ?????, Johnson
SG: Sharpe, Thybulle, Rupert
SF: Grant, Martin, Jaquez
PF: Simmons, Jovic, Walker, Murray
C: KAT,

Portland would have 2 open roster spots with being ~$10M below the cap. Portland would need a good veteran leadership and a good backup PG & C

Although not everyone on this list is a veteran, these are players that I would target:
+ Xavier Tillman (Memphis)
+ Kelley Olynyk (Utah)
+ Delon Wright (Washington)
+ Danilo Gallinari (Washington)
+ Ish Smith (FA)
+ Matt Dellavedova (FA)
+ Bismack Biyombo

 

[KingSpeed]

I’m going to be so pissed if we end up with that scrub.

At least I can laugh at the people who wanted him and get upset with him.

Of all the players in the NBA that played at least 30 games last season, how many players do you think averaged 6 apg and 6 rpg? The answer? 10.

Jokic, Sabonis, Luka, LaMelo, Harden, Curry, LeBron, Draymond, Giddey, and Ben Simmons.

The talent is there. He just needs a stable situation.

 

[PDXFonz]

Of all the players in the NBA that played at least 30 games last season, how many players do you think averaged 6 apg and 6 rpg? The answer? 10.

Jokic, Sabonis, Luka, LaMelo, Harden, Curry, LeBron, Draymond, Giddey, and Ben Simmons.

The talent is there. He just needs a stable situation.

Wow that’s pretty inclusive company. And when you take it further only one of those players shot 10% from three and 20% from the free throw line!

 

[KingSpeed]

Based on how they play, I actually think Ben Simmons & KAT could be excellent paired up together. Both have very unique skills that allow them to impact the game in a variety of ways, but their skill sets are very complementary. (As long as you can keep their head in the game appropriately).

I like the idea of this trade:
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The roster would look like this after the trade:

PG: Scoot, ?????, Johnson
SG: Sharpe, Thybulle, Rupert
SF: Grant, Martin, Jaquez
PF: Simmons, Jovic, Walker, Murray
C: KAT,

Portland would have 2 open roster spots with being ~$10M below the cap. Portland would need a good veteran leadership and a good backup PG & C

Although not everyone on this list is a veteran, these are players that I would target:
+ Xavier Tillman (Memphis)
+ Kelley Olynyk (Utah)
+ Delon Wright (Washington)
+ Danilo Gallinari (Washington)
+ Ish Smith (FA)
+ Matt Dellavedova (FA)
+ Bismack Biyombo

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