Report: Unnamed NBA players linked to Biogenesis clinic scandal

[3RA1N1AC]

i think it is kinda silly that an athlete isnt allowed to use the same things that anyone else can be prescribed in order to heal quicker

millions of people are legally taking hgh or testosterone

 

[e_blazer]

i think it is kinda silly that an athlete isnt allowed to use the same things that anyone else can be prescribed in order to heal quicker

millions of people are legally taking hgh or testosterone

Do you really think your doctor is going to prescribe those things unless there's a medical reason for it? Not unless he's a quack.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Do you really think your doctor is going to prescribe those things unless there's a medical reason for it? Not unless he's a quack.

are you kidding me? the medical reason is that they want to get paid, just like 99% of doctors in the world

 

[Draco]

Athletes usually can take steroids or HGH for valid medical reasons if prescribed by a doctor. It has to be for recovering from surgery or some type of medical condition and not to enhance performance.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

are you kidding me? the medical reason is that they want to get paid, just like 99% of doctors in the world

You have a very cynical view of the world, my friend.

 

[e_blazer]

are you kidding me? the medical reason is that they want to get paid, just like 99% of doctors in the world

And you think that any doctor with an ounce of sense is willing to risk getting sued for malpractice by prescribing PED's that aren't needed for some valid medical reason?

 

[blue9]

Well, the problem is that I don't agree that they're not harming someone else. Presumably, performance enhancing drugs do what their name implies: enhance an athlete's performance...at least for a period of time before harmful side effects kick in. If professional sports were to allow their use, then more and more athletes would start to use the drugs in order to improve their chances of performing better and earning bigger money. As that happens, in a profession where there are far fewer jobs than people who want them, pretty soon the only way a young player is going to have a chance to compete is to use drugs, whether they would otherwise be so inclined or not. And, of course, young kids seeing their sports idols using PEDs achieving success, are going to start using them too to try to improve their chances of a future in sports. If these drugs were without side effects, then sure, why not allow everybody to use them. But they're not and it would pretty much suck if sports were allowed to degenerate into an industry where selfish athletes in pursuit of their own "happiness" were allowed to set up conditions where the use of such drugs became obligatory if you want to have a chance to succeed.

Repped. And it seems like this should be common knowledge...

 

[BigGameDamian]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source...spensions--but-a-rod-fights-on-233912861.html

The vast majority of players implicated in the Biogenesis investigation plan on accepting suspensions of at least 50 games, major league sources told Yahoo! Sports, with a notable exception: New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez continues to hold out in spite of threats from Major League Baseball to ban him from the game.

Faced with a litany of evidence including text messages to Biogenesis clinic founder Tony Bosch promising to send money in exchange for performance-enhancing drugs, upward of a dozen players are expected to agree to suspensions offered by the league within the next 72 hours, sources said.

Rodriguez, meanwhile, is obstinate in his plans to appeal any suspension despite what one source deemed “overwhelming” evidence tying him to extensive performance-enhancing drug use as well as interfering with the league’s investigation into Biogenesis, the south Florida wellness clinic at the center of the latest PED controversy.

By threatening to suspend Rodriguez under a best-interests-of-baseball clause in the collective-bargaining agreement rather than the agreed-upon discipline of the league’s joint drug agreement, commissioner Bud Selig amped up the game of chicken between MLB and Rodriguez. The fear inside baseball is that if Rodriguez appeals a suspension, he could be playing games within the next week while the rest of the players in the Biogenesis case, including the already-suspended Ryan Braun, are sidelined.

Because baseball is disciplining players under the non-analytical-positive section of the drug agreement – none of those expected to accept suspensions had positive tests and thus are subject to different discipline – the open-ended penalty structure allowed the league leeway to pursue suspensions of more than the typical 50 games for a first offense. With the possibility of the league imposing longer suspensions on those who did not cooperate, players are finalizing agreements that will allow them to play toward the end of September and into the playoffs, sources said.

Ryan Braun accepted a 65-game suspension for his ties to Biogenesis. (AP)

MLB set 50 games as a baseline for players involved with Biogenesis, sources said, and those who did not cooperate during the investigation agreed to receive additional penalties of double-digit games.

With the players who already have been suspended for positive tests attributed to Biogenesis products (Bartolo Colon, Yasmani Grandal and Melky Cabrera) likely avoiding suspension, nine known players and more whose names have not been reported are almost certain to take plea deals, sources said.

The biggest names are Detroit shortstop Jhonny Peralta and Texas outfielder Nelson Cruz, both of whom are free agents this offseason. The incentive to take deals is great for each in spite of how it may affect their teams during the playoff hunt. The possibility of a longer suspension for not cooperating would greatly affect their market value as a free agent – especially with a potential 100-game suspension hanging over their heads. A large group of players agreeing to similar suspensions could be seen around baseball more as a necessary penalty for a mistake than selfish team abandonment.

Other players who could take the pleas include: San Diego shortstop Everth Cabrera, New York Yankees catcher Francisco Cervelli, three minor leaguers (Jesus Montero, Cesar Puello and Fernando Martinez) and two free agents (Jordan Norberto and Fautino De Los Santos).

MLB’s hardline stance on Rodriguez has not produced similar results. His refusal to agree to a significant suspension – at least 100 games, far longer than Braun’s or any of the other players’ – prompted Selig to pull out the nuclear option of a workaround to prevent him from playing.

Selig potentially resorting to such tactics, even if they are a bluff, miffed a number of players on the MLB Players Asssociation’s executive board, sources said. The union’s cooperation throughout the Biogenesis investigation has been paramount to the pursuit of suspensions, and Selig could run the risk of starting a massive fight with the union if Rodriguez continues to refuse to negotiate.

By circumventing the drug agreement, MLB could prevent Rodriguez from playing immediately rather than allowing him to play as an arbitrator hears his appeal on the Biogenesis-related suspension.

Rodriguez’s lawyer, David Cornwell, told ESPN radio on Monday that he plans on appealing any suspension.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Emails of promised money for PEDs (love the drama)


If this was all for legit medical treatment for an injury, why don't they just run all this through health insurance so they don't have to send the good Dr $$$.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Aaron Katersky@AaronKatersky Retweeted by John Canzano
#Breaking: @MLB has informed players union which players it intends to punish for obtaining PEDs from Biogenesis, source confirms.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

And you think that any doctor with an ounce of sense is willing to risk getting sued for malpractice by prescribing PED's that aren't needed for some valid medical reason?

Funny I swore I saw a testosterone booster advert on TV the other day. Those docs must have no sense I tell ya

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I wasn't talking about peds, my point was that a doc can give you HGH or testosterone for a myriad of "problems"

 

[BigGameDamian]

The NBA has been monitoring the ongoing developments of the Biogenesis case, but Adam Silver has said that the league is not aware of any involvement of players with the clinic.

“We’ve been actively working to understand the situation and to the extent possible to learn what is being uncovered by MLB’s investigation,” Silver said. “We are not aware of any involvement by NBA players.”

The NBA has the same three-strikes penalty structure as MLB, with a 20-game suspension for a first PED offense, followed by 45 games for a second and a lifetime ban for a third. All players are subject to six random tests each year, with four during the season.

Improving the testing of NBA players is unlikely to be agreed upon while the union leadership remains in limbo.

“It’s why, even in the collective bargaining agreement, this was not a point of contention,” said Silver. “Both for the player representatives and the owners who participated, this is an issue where it is in everybody’s interest to have state-of-the-art drug testing, and to have a level playing field for all players, because we recognize it’s not fair for a player to believe that in order to compete, and in order to keep his job, he has to do something that one could potentially harm his body and number two could potentially get him in trouble.”

 

[BigGameDamian]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...n-To-Believe-PEDs-Are-Widespread-Issue-In-NBA

Might this be a cover up?

Adam Silver was asked about the potential use of performance-enhancing drugs in the NBA and said he does not believe it is a problem.

"I have no reason to believe the use of PEDs are widespread in the NBA," Silver said.

The NBA has recently discussed testing for human growth hormone.

 

[PapaG]

Kobe Bryant goes overseas for treatments, and I'm supposed to believe that there is nothing shady going on with his rehab.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Kobe Bryant goes overseas for treatments, and I'm supposed to believe that there is nothing shady going on with his rehab.

So suspect it bares repeating (so I'll repeat it as well).

But you know the NBA isn't going to stop their Golden Boy.

 

[BBert]

The stars can't make the league any money sitting on the sidelines in a suit.

 

[PapaG]

So suspect it bares repeating (so I'll repeat it as well).

But you know the NBA isn't going to stop their Golden Boy.

Haha! Yeah, I'll delete the second post. Not sure why it posted 2x.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Blood spinning sounds so kinky

 

[PapaG]

Blood spinning sounds so kinky

Sex with a spinner on her period.

 

[jlprk]

So suspect it bares repeating (so I'll repeat it as well).

But you know the NBA isn't going to stop their Golden Boy.

Sex with a spinner on her period.

Round and round. High RPM bare repeating.

 

[maxiep]

Luckily guys like Jordan, Drexler and James weren't going prematurely bald. Yeah, their muscular growth was all natural. Just as natural as Anthony Mason.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

id trade all my luxurious hair for that kind of talent

even the curly ones

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I've always wanted to try roids, my Dick is already small so what do I have to lose?

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I've always wanted to try roids, my Dick is already small so what do I have to lose?

From Jessica Canseco's book, she said if anything it increased in size but his balls shrank to marbles.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

From Jessica Canseco's book, she said if anything it increased in size but his balls shrank to marbles.

That'd be ok for me since I'm hung like a can of tuna between two grape fruits.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

That'd be ok for me since I want to be hung like a single hit of 5-Hour Energy between two grape nuts.

FTFY

 

[rasheedfan2005]

FTFY

I'm all balls. It's a curse, remember the sataki mushroom scene on hangover 2? That's me. I'm a grower not a shower. But even grown its like a stocky midget wearing a firemans hat.