Require parents who don’t want a child vaccinated to get a science lesson

[Further]

ya, i could be wrong, but i think polio is rather well squashed right now. TB on the other hand is perking up, and a new virulent strain that is a much tougher to kill is on a comeback.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

From the WHO:



Don't call it a comeback?

Two different aggregation levels. As I recall (and my memory could be faulty) it's down worldwide, but up a bit in the US.

 

[RR7]

Have there been any in the US in the past few years?

 

[PapaG]

So ... how do you vaccinate adults who immigrate to the US illegally, and the children they bring with them?

I find it a bit irresponsible to blame the kids of US citizens at school who aren't vaccinated when there are adults, and their kids, who come to live here who are basically vaccine-free in many instances.

What good is making vaccination mandatory when it doesn't apply to everyone?

 

[Further]

Two different aggregation levels. As I recall (and my memory could be faulty) it's down worldwide, but up a bit in the US.

I'd be interested in reading about that if you know where you read it. This is what I found from the CDC

Is polio still a disease seen in the United States?
The last cases of naturally occurring paralytic polio in the United States were in 1979, when an outbreak occurred among the Amish in several Midwestern states. From 1980 through 1999, there were 162 confirmed cases of paralytic polio cases reported. Of the 162 cases, eight cases were acquired outside the United States and imported. The last imported case caused by wild poliovirus into the United States was reported in 1993. The remaining 154 cases were vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) caused by live oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV).

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/dis-faqs.htm

 

[Further]

So ... how do you vaccinate adults who immigrate to the US illegally?

I find it a bit irresponsible to blame kids at school who aren't vaccinated when there are adults, and their kids, who come to live here who are basically vaccine-free in many instances.

Different issues.

 

[PapaG]

Different issues.

In terms of eradicating disease, they aren't different at all. crandc brought up kids in school; how about adults and their children who fall into the margins?

That said, in my kids' school district, if your child isn't vaccinated, they can't go to school.

 

[MARIS61]

Different issues.

Same issue. Contagious diseases are spread by travelling hosts. Illegal, and legal immigrants are the leading source of contagious diseases in the US.

But don't take my word for it. Ask any American Indian to explain it to you.

 

[MARIS61]

it all depends on who you think you have to answer to in existance.

Nobody but myself.

That's pretty much what Freedom means.

 

[MARIS61]

Hmm, apparently the well educated Maris is unaware of the 1918 influenza pandemic?

What is your source?
Absolute numbers may have increased, after all, the world's population has increased and more of us are living in cities. What about relative numbers?

For the record, I support the right to birth control and abortion and yes childbirth not because I think a woman's body is her property but because I think a woman has the right to make her own choices. Even those I personaly disagree with. It's not a property question, it's a human rights question.

Papa G, if everyone was opposed to rape, we would not have so many rapes, so many rape victims being demonized while the rapists are excused, so many jokes about how funny rape is, et al.

And back to the original, no one is being forced to vaccinate. They are being made to get information. Again, why is informed consent such a bad thing?

Here is a thought experiment. Was Harriet Tubman a hero or a criminal? She stole property from its lawful owners. No question. Admittedly. Very valuable property. Slaves were as much property as a house, a horse, land, furniture, whatever. And a prime young adult was worth a lot of money. If property rights are your starting point, was she a criminal for stealing all that property? The property that was human beings?

Harriet Tubman would tell you to put your forced vaccination plan right up your ass.

As usual, you are super-selective about whose and which rights you protect ans whose rights you dismiss.