Rich Cho new GM

[Ed O]

I guess I thought there was a plan in place to replace Pritchard. I gave Paul Allen too much credit, which is my fault, unless the plan all along was to replace him with Larry Miller.

Replace him? Or to get an upgrade?

Those are two things. KP's definitely been replaced. Whether it's an upgrade or not is another matter.

I find it intellectually dishonest for you to have been bashing Paul Allen and Larry Miller for weeks and, now that they've made a hire, to bash them for not living up to the expectations you claim to have had all along.

Ed O.

 

[BGrantFan]

As long as he's not on vacation.

Basically I was deffo wrong about all of this. We didn't replace Kevin Pritchard with Cho. We replace Tom Penn with Cho.

The GM position is now a magic vapor made up of the minds of Vulcans and Sea monsters that have a massive calculator that tell Larry miller what to say on TV.

I love this team!

I posted the same thing at about the same time. Stop being childish!

 

[OddEnormous]

I love you, Minstrel.

I'll add that I think that we just hired Tom Penn's replacement. I think that Larry Miller is basically the GM at this point, with help from Cho and the scouts.

See my above post. We should be together.

 

[OddEnormous]

I posted the same thing at about the same time. Stop being childish!

And then we did it again!!!!!!

giggle slap!

 

[BGrantFan]

Replace him? Or to get an upgrade?

Those are two things. KP's definitely been replaced. Whether it's an upgrade or not is another matter.

I find it intellectually dishonest for you to have been bashing Paul Allen and Larry Miller for weeks and, now that they've made a hire, to bash them for not living up to the expectations you claim to have had all along.

Ed O.

I find you intellectually dull.

Plus, Cho is Penn's replacement, IMO. Miller is the new Pritchard, which explains the bizarre hand-holding we witnessed today by Miller.

 

[OddEnormous]

One things for sure. After listening to Cho, they deffo found a guy who won't be doing "too many" radio interviews.

 

[Minstrel]

Plus, Cho is Penn's replacement, IMO.

I think Cho was being groomed as more than a cap expert by Presti, as evidenced by Presti having Cho take a larger role in scouting and player development with the Thunder. I'd be surprised if Portland hired him purely as a "cap guy" with only minimal input on talent acquisition and I'd also be somewhat surprised if Cho wanted that job. It's not like he was obscure and this was his one shot at a GM position...I think he would have waited rather than taking a figurehead GM position where he'd largely be marginalized.

 

[BGrantFan]

I think Cho was being groomed as more than a cap expert by Presti, as evidenced by Presti having Cho take a larger role in scouting and player development with the Thunder. I'd be surprised if Portland hired him purely as a "cap guy" with only minimal input on talent acquisition and I'd also be somewhat surprised if Cho wanted that job. It's not like he was obscure and this was his one shot at a GM position...I think he would have waited rather than taking a figurehead GM position where he'd largely be marginalized.

He said on the radio today that his leadership style is more communal than singular (IMO) (not those words exactly, sorry nitpickers) (I don't have direct quotes).

Presti may have groomed him, but I just don't think the guy has the juice to be the face of the front office. Not his fault, and I'm sure he's very good at his job, but it was a somewhat weird spectacle today with Larry Miller jumping in to give answers.

 

[Minstrel]

He said on the radio today that his leadership style is more communal than singular (IMO) (not those words exactly, sorry nitpickers) (I don't have direct quotes).

Most front offices are, more and more. I'd say the trend of sports has been away from the Red Auerbach type of hierarchy, where there's one all-powerful executive at the top and a bunch of scouts who report to him and more toward a Billy Beane/Theo Epstein type of hierarchy, where the GM has some lieutenants which are almost co-GMs and they make decisions together.

I don't know what Larry Miller's role would be but, at minimum, I think that Cho will be collaborating with Born and Buchanan. I think that was probably the case for Pritchard, too, but Cho being less experienced at this point will probably need to rely on them more heavily.

Presti may have groomed him, but I just don't think the guy has the juice to be the face of the front office. Not his fault, and I'm sure he's very good at his job, but it was a somewhat weird spectacle today with Larry Miller jumping in to give answers.

I don't think Cho currently has the cache to be the face of the franchise. That said, I don't think Pritchard did either when he officially took over. Those of us who followed the franchise closely knew him well, but I don't think many non-Blazers fans thought of Pritchard when they thought about the Blazers initially. Pritchard built his reputation and profile, and developed into the face of the franchise. Cho will have to do the same. He can still be a non-puppet GM in the meantime, though.

 

[Ed O]

I find you intellectually dull.

Better perceived as dull than perceived as dishonest.

Plus, Cho is Penn's replacement, IMO. Miller is the new Pritchard, which explains the bizarre hand-holding we witnessed today by Miller.

Did you expect an upgrade or a replacement? And were you giving Paul Allen and Larry Miller--the guys that you have been bashing for weeks and maybe months--too much credit, even as you were calling them incompetent?

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth and it's ridiculous.

Ed O.

 

[BGrantFan]

Did you expect an upgrade or a replacement? And were you giving Paul Allen and Larry Miller--the guys that you have been bashing for weeks and maybe months--too much credit, even as you were calling them incompetent?

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth and it's ridiculous.

Ed O.

No, I'm not, but you apparently lack the reasoning ability to grasp this. Go back to chasing Odd's tail. If you want to chronicle my posts, go for it, but please stop making things up about what I said, or trying to make some sort of inconsistency-based that actually is not there.

 

[OddEnormous]

No, I'm not, but you apparently lack the reasoning ability to grasp this. Go back to chasing Odd's tail. If you want to chronicle my posts, go for it, but please stop making things up about what I said, or trying to make some sort of inconsistency-based that actually is not there.

It's why I've glossed him Dr. Tedious.

"You said "though" not "although."

 

[Ed O]

No, I'm not, but you apparently lack the reasoning ability to grasp this. Go back to chasing Odd's tail. If you want to chronicle my posts, go for it, but please stop making things up about what I said, or trying to make some sort of inconsistency-based that actually is not there.

Did you expect an upgrade?

If you expected an upgrade, why have you been ripping on management for so long?

Those are two pretty simple questions. Why you won't answer them is beyond me.

Of course, you wouldn't answer the question of which available GM would be better than KP, just like you won't answer why the Blazers never sued the Grizzlies.

We all change our mind, but most of us have the honesty to admit that we've changed our mind, rather than being indignant at every step of the way.

Ed O.

 

[Masbee]

Most front offices are, more and more. I'd say the trend of sports has been away from the Red Auerbach type of hierarchy, where there's one all-powerful executive at the top and a bunch of scouts who report to him and more toward a Billy Beane/Theo Epstein type of hierarchy, where the GM has some lieutenants which are almost co-GMs and they make decisions together.

Yep. In a bad economy, with a looming lockout, a poorly run NBA franchise (Warriors) sells for $450 million.

If fans think there will be many future examples of outside hires being allowed carte blanche to fashion the team in THEIR image, they are mistaken.

There is far, far too much money involved for a single individual to be able to dominate. Even billionaires sit up and take notice when the numbers run into the 9 figures.

 

[Masbee]

I was questioning the firing.

What is the list of significant and positive accomplishments of Kevin Pritchard the last 3 years he has been on the job?

What is the list of significant and negative actions of Kevin Pritchard the last 3 years he has been on the job?

 

[BGrantFan]

What is the list of significant and positive accomplishments of Kevin Pritchard the last 3 years he has been on the job?

What is the list of significant and negative actions of Kevin Pritchard the last 3 years he has been on the job?

Nothing. Pritchard accomplished jack shit. It was all Steve Patterson, and it's a miracle the Blazers won 50 games two years in a row with the shit players that Pritchard put on the roster.

Clearly Pritchard deserved to be fired. Bright guys like you should be GMs. I do appreciate you cutting down on your usual 2000-word ramblings in this post, however.

 

[BGrantFan]

Did you expect an upgrade?

If you expected an upgrade, why have you been ripping on management for so long?

Those are two pretty simple questions. Why you won't answer them is beyond me.

Of course, you wouldn't answer the question of which available GM would be better than KP, just like you won't answer why the Blazers never sued the Grizzlies.

We all change our mind, but most of us have the honesty to admit that we've changed our mind, rather than being indignant at every step of the way.

Ed O.

I'm having difficultly understanding if you're simply being obtuse, or if you're just so fixated on an argument that you believe to be true, when the reality says otherwise, that you're mired in some sort of pedantic, banal, and irrelevant analysis of my posts and what you believe they say.

There are no contradictions. Realities change, but my opinions have not. I'm consistent in wanting to see the Blazers win, and I'm onboard with whatever they decide to do, whether I agree with it or not.

 

[RoyToy]

Had a day to digest this and I'm still not all that excited.

Probably not a terrible move, but I don't really see how it's this great/brilliant move some people see it as, and I'm not really sure how they can even came to that conclusion.

Time will tell. Count me as not sold.

 

[Ed O]

I'm having difficultly understanding if you're simply being obtuse, or if you're just so fixated on an argument that you believe to be true, when the reality says otherwise, that you're mired in some sort of pedantic, banal, and irrelevant analysis of my posts and what you believe they say.

There are no contradictions. Realities change, but my opinions have not. I'm consistent in wanting to see the Blazers win, and I'm onboard with whatever they decide to do, whether I agree with it or not.

And yet you won't answer the question. It's bizarre.

Did you really expect them to upgrade the GM spot?

Or are you just saying that so it gives you more fuel to be angry at management?

Ed O.

 

[Masbee]

Nothing. Pritchard accomplished jack shit. It was all Steve Patterson, and it's a miracle the Blazers won 50 games two years in a row with the shit players that Pritchard put on the roster.

Clearly Pritchard deserved to be fired. Bright guys like you should be GMs. I do appreciate you cutting down on your usual 2000-word ramblings in this post, however.

This is the posting of a pompas jackass. One who doesn't need to BOTHER with have a two-way conversation.

 

[OddEnormous]

and I'm not really sure how they can even came to that conclusion.

Well it's pretty obvious.

It's because "You never know" and Other GM's used to be unknown too and Daryl Morey.

 

[BGrantFan]

This is the posting of a pompas jackass. One who doesn't need to BOTHER with have a two-way conversation.

You asking me to list every positive and negative about Pritchard isn't a "conversation".

 

[BGrantFan]

And yet you won't answer the question. It's bizarre.

Did you really expect them to upgrade the GM spot?

Or are you just saying that so it gives you more fuel to be angry at management?

Ed O.

Either/or. yes/no. Heady stuff, ed.

 

[BGrantFan]

Well it's pretty obvious.

It's because "You never know" and Other GM's used to be unknown too and Daryl Morey.

How dare you forget Mitch Kupchak.

 

[OddEnormous]

How dare you forget Mitch Kupchak.

Always keep one in the chamber.

 

[oldmangrouch]

How dare you forget Mitch Kupchak.

Always keep one in the chamber.

Right. Because every first time GM fails. Every. Single. One. How dare somebody point out facts to the contrary.

 

[OddEnormous]

Right. Because every first time GM fails. Every. Single. One. How dare somebody point out facts to the contrary.

I agree they don't always fail and thats why we should hire one... Because you never know.

Edit: And Daryl Morey.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Just a little fact for your argument. Only 9 current GM's held a GM job previous to their current GM job. Quick math says that's only 30%. GM experience appears to be a little over rated.

 

[BGrantFan]

I just have a feelling this Cho fellow is going to do great things. Disagree with me, and I'll deconstruct your posts on both a macro- and micro-level, put my own spin on them, and then try to make you defend an opinion that you were never trying to make. I may even resort to name-calling if you refuse to accept things as I see them.

 

[blazerboy30]

I just have a feelling this Cho fellow is going to do great things. Disagree with me, and I'll deconstruct your posts on both a macro- and micro-level, put my own spin on them, and then try to make you defend an opinion that you were never trying to make. I may even resort to name-calling if you refuse to accept things as I see them.

PapaG, I think you should strive for a more whiney, passive-aggressive posting style. You're the victim. Let it be known!