Rich Cho out as GM!

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@kpelton Kevin Pelton
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Nikolokolus said:
So you don't see any pattern of meddling or incompetence in ownership/upper management in the past 25 years? Hmmm ...
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Did I say that or are you putting words in my mouth? Hmmm.

I'm only talking about this specific Blazers' decision relative to letting Cho go. They were either wrong when the hired him or wrong now in letting him go so quickly. I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything out of him to indicate that he's ever likely to be accepted as a dynamic leader for the team's future. There's nothing more incompetent than avoiding making a needed decision just because you're afraid of looking incompetent.
 
HIDE YO KIDS....... HIDE YOU WIFE.......... HIDE YO CHO!
 
When KP was fired, there was an argument made that no GMs will want to work with PA. Shortly thereafter, Cho was hired.

Now I'm reading the same concerns with the Cho firing. This may be a ownership issue, but I doubt they will have a problem getting a quality GM to replace Cho.
 
My theory is he is really just a beta male number cruncher with no real negotiation skills. Which is what I said last summer.

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I think it's more of a Roy v. Cho situation, rather than a Warren LeGarie ultimatum

Roy = 72M in costs. Cho...maybe 2M? Roy's way or the highway.

Buchanan and Born have my confidence in the draft/FA.
 
Breaking news!

Cho is sitting in his car at the practice facility honking his horn twice while laughing hysterically.

More updates as I get them.
 
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Since it appears the front office will always be a clusterfuck perhaps Portland should try and steal David Kahn from the T'Wolves.

At least the trainwreck will be funny then.
Right now it's just kind of pathetic.

I think PA wanted to do something insane (like sign Patty Mills to a multi-year deal) and Cho told him he was crazy.


And now for the truly nerdy part of the post:
The Vulcans should rename themselves Romulans since they don't actually use logic for much of anything and instead go by gut feeling.
 
e_blazer said:
Maybe, or maybe this is an indication that they do know what they're doing, realized that Cho was a mistake, and have taken a step to fix an error. I think we have to wait and see who is brought in as GM before assessing whether this is a good or bad move. I will say that since Day 1, Cho has struck me as the guy you want in the back room crunching stats and reading the CBA, not the guy who actually has to be out front making the deals.
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Management either hired a guy so incompetent that he couldn't last a year or they fired a competent man prematurely.

I don't know how good of a GM Cho will be, and I've been willing to give Vulcan and PA the benefit of the doubt, but...

Unless the team has someone better lined up, then it looks like a mistake to me.

It's fun to speculate, I guess.

-- Was Cho incompetent?
-- Does Miller (or someone higher on the food chain) want more control than Cho wanted to give?
-- Did Cho want to go another direction? (Blow it up? Keep Roy muzzled?)
-- Did Cho and Nate clash?

This strikes me as very odd, and given the recent Canzano reporting/speculation it makes me think there's something going on beyond the normal GM firing.

Ed O.
 
Gee, does anybody still think that Paul Allen has a fucking clue what he is doing?

I'll catch up in this thread, but while Cho wasn't the greatest GM, he should at least get a few years to put a team together.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Buchanan and Born have my confidence in the draft/FA.
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I have my doubts... the draft hasn't gone very well recently and the last two years, in particular, look like total busts.

Ed O.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
When KP was fired, there was an argument made that no GMs will want to work with PA. Shortly thereafter, Cho was hired.

Now I'm reading the same concerns with the Cho firing. This may be a ownership issue, but I doubt they will have a problem getting a quality GM to replace Cho.
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You mean like how they replaced KP?


They need a rubber stamp yes man.
I hear Mo Cheeks could be had for the right price (A box of popcorn and a free hand towel).
 
e_blazer said:
Did I say that or are you putting words in my mouth? Hmmm.

I'm only talking about this specific Blazers' decision relative to letting Cho go. They were either wrong when the hired him or wrong now in letting him go so quickly. I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything out of him to indicate that he's ever likely to be accepted as a dynamic leader for the team's future. There's nothing more incompetent than avoiding making a needed decision just because you're afraid of looking incompetent.
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If you look at everything in a vacuum anything can look reasonable.
 
tlongII said:
Whoa. Didn't see this coming. He engineered a Przybilla for Gerald Wallace trade and now he's out??? I don't understand our Vulcans sometimes.
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Please. That was Larry Miller using a personal relationship. I'm sure Cho helped, but Wallace had been a target for a few years.
 
Ed O said:
I have my doubts... the draft hasn't gone very well recently and the last two years, in particular, look like total busts.

Ed O.
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Last year's draft was absolutely horrid.

Anyone want to lay money down that Portland drafts a Euro small forward who won't be ready to come over to the states in the next 3 years?
 
e_blazer said:
I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything out of him to indicate that he's ever likely to be accepted as a dynamic leader for the team's future. There's nothing more incompetent than avoiding making a needed decision just because you're afraid of looking incompetent.
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:cheers:!
 
BrianFromWA said:
I think it's more of a Roy v. Cho situation, rather than a Warren LeGarie ultimatum

Roy = 72M in costs. Cho...maybe 2M? Roy's way or the highway.

Buchanan and Born have my confidence in the draft/FA.
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If it really came down to a Roy vs. Cho thing when there is likely to be amnesty clause in the next CBA then Allen/Vulcan really are clueless.
 
Ed O said:
I have my doubts... the draft hasn't gone very well recently and the last two years, in particular, look like total busts.

Ed O.
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no kidding, who was responsible for the Babbit fiasco?
 
Nikolokolus said:
If you look at everything in a vacuum anything can look reasonable.
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So, totally absent any inside information about whether Cho's been doing a good job, has the respect of ownership and the players, what his involvement in the Wallace trade really was, etc., you're comfortable in saying that firing him is a mistake?
 
So Cho wasn't the right fit, and Pritchard wasn't the right fit? The obvious conclusion is that Paul Allen has no idea how to hire a GM.
 
This just in from twitter:
"Paul Allen wrote in "Idea Man" - released April 19 - that Rich Cho was part of "a leadership team that can get us back to the Finals.""

Apparently he went from genius to moron in a month.
 
Hilarious. What changed so quickly?

Via Twitter:
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Paul Allen wrote in "Idea Man" - released April 19 - that Rich Cho was part of "a leadership team that can get us back to the Finals."
 
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