Forum Game Rip City S2 Mock Off Season 2018

[BonesJones]

why would anyone in their right mind trade Love for Gallinari?

You should read more of the thread. It'll answer your question. Cleveland trades for Kawhi to keep LeBron, while taking Gallinari in the process (who actually wouldn't be a terrible fit there as a stretch 4).

 

[CupWizier]

Its part of a bigger deal...Cleveland is getting Kawhi

ok, but who is the Spurs GM? I think he just forced Pops into early retirement, lol.

 

[Chris Craig]

ok, but who is the Spurs GM? I think he just forced Pops into early retirement, lol.

Bonesjones

 

[BonesJones]

ok, but who is the Spurs GM? I think he just forced Pops into early retirement, lol.

How so?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

How so?

Well it certainly isn’t early retirement lol

 

[CupWizier]

How so?

Does San Antonio look like the type of team that wants to go into full rebuild? This probably makes Ginobli's decision to go ahead and retire as well. With Kawhi, they should be able to get back at least one all star level player and then some solid role players. Instead hey get a few draft picks in this draft and mediocre role players and they lost 2 all stars. I see you're the GM for the Spurs so I expect an earful from Popovich for you, lol.

 

[hoopsjock]

I'm halfway done with the spreadsheets. Then I got to make all the trade changes to them. It will be a game changer when they are done though.

 

[BonesJones]

Does San Antonio look like the type of team that wants to go into full rebuild? This probably makes Ginobli's decision to go ahead and retire as well. With Kawhi, they should be able to get back at least one all star level player and then some solid role players. Instead hey get a few draft picks in this draft and mediocre role players and they lost 2 all stars. I see you're the GM for the Spurs so I expect an earful from Popovich for you, lol.

Lmao.

Getting the 5th, 8th, and 21st picks in the draft along with Bobby Portis, Powell, and Olynyk while creating $60M in cap space?

They're not gonna get an all-star, let alone solid role players to go along with it. Solid role players can be signed this summer on the cheap. And why would they want to stay old? You really don't think Popovich wouldn't love developing Doncic+Bridges or some combination of the two? He would. This team will still be competitive and will also have a young core in place.

Powell isn't mediocre either. Do your research.

 

[BonesJones]

I'm halfway done with the spreadsheets. Then I got to make all the trade changes to them. It will be a game changer when they are done though.

Any problem with the final trade I came up with?

 

[hoopsjock]

Any problem with the final trade I came up with?

Haven't been able to run the numbers yet, will be much easier with the spreadsheets up to date. I also have something else in the works that could possibly effect whether or not I have the 30th pick so hold tight.

Also, I'm not sure the league would allow such a complicated protection of picks. It kind of feels like the rules are being skirted because future picks don't have much consequence for trading away.

 

[Chris Craig]

I'm halfway done with the spreadsheets. Then I got to make all the trade changes to them. It will be a game changer when they are done though.

We definately need to sim these rosters

 

[BonesJones]

Haven't been able to run the numbers yet, will be much easier with the spreadsheets up to date. I also have something else in the works that could possibly effect whether or not I have the 30th pick so hold tight.

Also, I'm not sure the league would allow such a complicated protection of picks. It kind of feels like the rules are being skirted because future picks don't have much consequence for trading away.

Anything legal should be allowed. The protections are so light, and it's pretty much impossible that the Spurs would be a bottom six team. If you're going to allow the trading of future picks, you have to allow protections too. I could simply say screw it and not protect it and it'd be simpler, but I'm actually valuing the future as if I'm going to be using picks in the future.

I'm planning on seeing if people want to simulate the future through 2K (I'd sim a week a day, and post videos showing standings and stats each day). Could play it through 2019 or 2020 if people wanted.

You'll still have the 33rd pick to trade away, instead of 30. There's pretty much no difference there, but their is a difference here because 30 is a first rounder and it makes certain protections possible.

 

[Chris Craig]

Anything legal should be allowed. The protections are so light, and it's pretty much impossible that the Spurs would be a bottom six team. If you're going to allow the trading of future picks, you have to allow protections too. I could simply say screw it and not protect it and it'd be simpler, but I'm actually valuing the future as if I'm going to be using picks in the future.

I'm planning on seeing if people want to simulate the future through 2K (I'd sim a week a day, and post videos showing standings and stats each day). Could play it through 2019 or 2020 if people wanted.

You'll still have the 33rd pick to trade away, instead of 30. There's pretty much no difference there, but their is a difference here because 30 is a first rounder and it makes certain protections possible.

This. Lets do this @hoopsjock

 

[hoopsjock]

Nevermind I figured out how to make it public.

Here is a link to everyone's team: It breaks down how much cap space you have, roster holds, future salary, free agents, pretty much anything you want for information about your team.

Give me a little bit to fix all the rosters post trades.

 

[hoopsjock]

This. Lets do this @hoopsjock

Do the trade or the 2K thing?

 

[Chris Craig]

Do the trade or the 2K thing?

Both

 

[hoopsjock]

Oops here is the link:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMMMNNbh_yyOFG0TwFC_aECGuHGLXdU7?usp=sharing

No email required.

 

[BonesJones]

Oops here is the link:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMMMNNbh_yyOFG0TwFC_aECGuHGLXdU7?usp=sharing

No email required.

Good job!

Will you be updating these with each trade?

 

[BonesJones]

This. Lets do this @hoopsjock

If he doesn't want to, we could get Brooklyn to jump in. Me, you, BlazerDuckSeahawkFan and SwissBlazer seem to have a solid agreement. Just need to make the picks work.

 

[hoopsjock]

Good job!

Will you be updating these with each trade?

Currently working on all the trades, almost done. BTW the Gallinari trade to Utah isn't official yet because @Fonzthecpt1 hasn't liked it yet.

 

[BonesJones]

Currently working on all the trades, almost done. BTW the Gallinari trade to Utah isn't official yet because @Fonzthecpt1 hasn't liked it yet.

@Fonzthecpt1 Let's go homie!

 

[hoopsjock]

How about this:

Instead of all the complicated shit involved why don't I give the Cavs pick back to them instead of the 30th? That would solve all the problems.

 

[hoopsjock]

Alright everybody...

Everyone's spreadsheet is now completely up to date. Let me know if I messed anything up or if you have questions about your sheet.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMMMNNbh_yyOFG0TwFC_aECGuHGLXdU7?usp=sharing

 

[BonesJones]

How about this:

Instead of all the complicated shit involved why don't I give the Cavs pick back to them instead of the 30th? That would solve all the problems.

For what, #33?

 

[hoopsjock]

For what, #33?

Instead of 30

Then they could trade 2020 and 2022 or whatever

 

[SwissBlazer]

Alright everybody...

Everyone's spreadsheet is now completely up to date. Let me know if I messed anything up or if you have questions about your sheet.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMMMNNbh_yyOFG0TwFC_aECGuHGLXdU7?usp=sharing

Great! Thank you very much!

 

[Chris Craig]

Instead of 30

Then they could trade 2020 and 2022 or whatever

?

 

[hoopsjock]

@Chris Craig I switched up the swap protections a little bit, still the same basis.

CLE Gets: Kawhi Leonard, Danillo Gallinari, Ekpe Udoh, Thabo Sefelosha (TPE), Worst of 2019 SAS/UTA 1sts*
SAS Gets: #5, #10, #21, 2020 CLE 1st (Top 3 Protected), Dwight Powell, Jonas Jerebko, Cedi Osman, Ante Zizic,
UTA Gets: #30, J.R. Smith, Kevin Love, Best of 2019 SAS/UTA 1sts (Top 6 Protected)*
DAL Gets: #13, LaMarcus Aldridge
ATL Gets: #8, #33

*If SAS 2019 1st is Top 6, CLE receives 2019 UTA 1st, and UTA receives 2020 SAS 1st (Top 10 Protected through 3 years then unprotected) - Utah still has a 1st round pick in 2018 (#30) which allows them to trade their 2019 1st to Cleveland if San Antonios 2019 Pick is 6 or higher. (In this scenario, UTA essentially swaps it for a SAS 2020 1st). If both Utah's and San Antonio's 2019 firsts are top 6, protections are waved, and Utah gets the best while Cleveland gets the worst (very unlikely).

This guarantees Cleveland a 2019 1st, which allows them to trade #8 (2018) as well as their 2020 1st.

So it looks like this version works with the players, we just have to figure out the picks. Like I said if Cleveland gets their 2019 pick back from Atlanta then Utah and SA wouldn't have to give up their 2019 picks (with the extremely unlikely protections) but if you guys don't want that then I guess this would work for me.

 

[hoopsjock]

WTF??????

For the last time, I have ZERO interest in trading 10 for future picks.

 

[hoopsjock]

So how about this then?

CLE Gets: Kawhi Leonard, Danillo Gallinari, Ekpe Udoh, Thabo Sefelosha (TPE), 2019 CLE 1st,
SAS Gets: #5, #10, #21, 2020 CLE 1st (Top 3 Protected), Dwight Powell, Jonas Jerebko, Cedi Osman, Ante Zizic,
UTA Gets: #33, J.R. Smith, Kevin Love, 2020 SAS 2nd
DAL Gets: #13, LaMarcus Aldridge
ATL Gets: 2022 CLE 1st, 2021 SAS 2nd

And why would Cleveland keep 8?