Rob Williams is likely sticking around now?

[illmatic99]

Shame because I thought we could extract some value from him, but I suppose it's unlikely they go with DC/Yang/Duop as the only bigs?

Can never predict with this FO.

 

[Natebishop3]

Held onto him too long. I don’t see how anyone would trade for him now.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

How are we going to get value for him if he never plays? I like going into the season with DC and Williams splitting minutes. If he is balling at the trade deadline, someone may make a decent offer. I do not think we get anything for him at present with his injury history. Until Yang proves anything , I have him deep on the bench and Duop as the third big.

 

[riverman]

Rob Williams can play the 4 or 5..he's a perfect backup 4 off the bench or small ball

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Shame because I thought we could extract some value from him, but I suppose it's unlikely they go with DC/Yang/Duop as the only bigs?

Can never predict with this FO.

By extract value do you mean a mediocre 2nd round pick?

Timelord can legit play PF unlike our other centers.

I'm happy to roll the dice he gets more healthy. He probably doesn't and will walk next year. If he does get healthy he will be worth MUCH more to us or in trade to another team.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Held onto him too long. I don’t see how anyone would trade for him now.

I'm not sure about "too long".... Sure if we had immediately flipped him he likely would've been worth more. But he has been injured nonstop since a few weeks after the Dame trade. His value has never been very high as a Blazer.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm not sure about "too long".... Sure if we had immediately flipped him he likely would've been worth more. But he has been injured nonstop since a few weeks after the Dame trade. His value has never been very high as a Blazer.

Should have traded him immediately after getting him.

Should have traded him last season when he was healthy.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

How are we going to get value for him if he never plays? I like going into the season with DC and Williams splitting minutes. If he is balling at the trade deadline, someone may make a decent offer. I do not think we get anything for him at present with his injury history. Until Yang proves anything , I have him deep on the bench and Duop as the third big.

100%

Yang might be many months or even an entire year away from playing. Blazers need to be cautious.

Clingan also has had injury and conditioning issues himself. I'm excited to roll with him as the starter but it's super important we have a number of good backups for him, especially if we're making a real effort to win.

 

[Freshtown]

Unlike ayton, rob will is only making 13 mil this year and every team has a player around this salary slot. So I’d assume we’re looking to take back a worse player at the same salary who is also expiring and get some 2nds attached to it, or maybe a bad first if Cronin is a good negotiator (unlikely).

Of course that assumes we want to trade him. If they have delusional hopes of “making noise” in the playoffs then maybe he’s supposed to be the backup 5 behind clingan under the assumption that yang isn’t ready to contribute yet

 

[KingSpeed]

100%

Yang might be many months or even an entire year away from playing. Blazers need to be cautious.

Clingan also has had injury and conditioning issues himself. I'm excited to roll with him as the starter but it's super important we have a number of good backups for him, especially if we're making a real effort to win.

Billups said he has no problem playing Yang now. Says he’s ready.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Billups said he has no problem playing Yang now. Says he’s ready.

Billups also started Ayton instead of Clingan when Ayton was a -6 when starting. Benched Sharpe for poor defense, but rewarded Ant with starting. The Conductor is an idiot

 

[inconceivable]

Idk anymore, buying out ayton and keeping jrue are oxymoronic moves

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

The moment there is a big man injury, some will cry that Joe has no center depth….

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Billups also started Ayton instead of Clingan when Ayton was a -6 when starting. Benched Sharpe for poor defense, but rewarded Ant with starting. The Conductor is an idiot

So is this post. For actually thinking it knows what Billups instructions were. For being so narrow minded as to not see anything outside of the tunnel vision this post and many like it, presents.
Ant, for a year was the new face of the franchise. Of course he isnt gonna get benched. They were trying to showcase him. Why this is not part of the context of your piss poor post is why it is so narrow minded

backseat drivers with 20/20 vision who cry about everything wrong, never try to see anything but what they want to see.
Negative people will only see negativity. never any potential positives…

This place houses alot of negative/angry posters….

 

[Mediocre Man]

So is this post. For actually thinking it knows what Billups instructions were. For being so narrow minded as to not see anything outside of the tunnel vision this post and many like it, presents.
Ant, for a year was the new face of the franchise. Of course he isnt gonna get benched. They were trying to showcase him. Why this is not part of the context of your piss poor post is why it is so narrow minded

backseat drivers with 20/20 vision who cry about everything wrong, never try to see anything but what they want to see.
Negative people will only see negativity. never any potential positives…

This place houses alot of negative/angry posters….

Bert told them to win

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Idk anymore, buying out ayton and keeping jrue are oxymoronic moves

Except:
1. Jrue is good. Like, really good. Old, but still good. Ayton not so much.
2. Jrue is also a world-class person. Just one of the best human beings in the league. I think Cronin cares about team character and I think he's right to. Ayton isn't a bad person, he's just goofy. And that annoys the fuck out of his coaches.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Bert told them to win

So that makes Billups an idiot??????????????????????

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So that makes Billups an idiot??????????????????????

If Billups was told to win, and he played Ayton over Clingan, despite the numbers and results clearly demonstrating that Clingan impacted winning more than Ayton did, then it at least brings Billups' coaching acumen into question, no?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Thing about Timelord is that you have to wait for him to get healthy before you can trade him and then by the time you pick up the phone, he's injured again.

But, assuming we keep him AND he's healthy - shouldn't he be our starter?

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

If Billups was told to win, and he played Ayton over Clingan, despite the numbers and results clearly demonstrating that Clingan impacted winning more than Ayton did, then it at least brings Billups' coaching acumen into question, no?

Not without a month by month context. Do we have an average minutes player per month? Im pretty sure Clingan played alot more towards the end of the season?
The numbers you speak of don't come about without time, so how is Billups supposed to know those numbers to start the season, before they exist?

Going into the season, it was widely thought Clingan would be a project and Ayton would start.

Like i said, hind site is 20/20. But it takes time to develop those numbers you are referencing. Until they are developed, I easily see playing Ayton over Clingan.

And what if Billups was told to try to win, but use the vets so we can hopefully move them for more value snd players that fits Billups system?

This is why I refuse to call the coach an idiot. Am i the only one who understands we are not in the room and there could be any number of things that happened, will happen that would be plausible over… “Billups is an idiot?”

 

[Mediocre Man]

So that makes Billups an idiot??????????????????????

Yes because The Conductor kept starting and playing players simply because they were vets.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Yes because The Conductor kept starting and playing players simply because they were vets.

simply because they weee vets. Cool story.

 

[Mediocre Man]

simply because they weee vets. Cool story.

You seem to be trolling. You win. I’ll talk about rainbows and stuff instead

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

You seem to be trolling. You win. I’ll talk about rainbows and stuff instead

cop out. I brought stats and reasoning. But im enjoying your rainbows and stuff meltdown for being called out for what it is… being pissed off and melting down with little to no context or reasoning behind such meltdown.

so like i said, that so triggered you…. Move to the meltdown thread. Lol.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Clingan game by game minutes:









And Aytons minutes per game:








Looks to me that it went down pretty much as I said. Not how some claim.

Now by all means @Mediocre Man continue melting down. Its entertainment! i understand facts play no part, so I'm here to enjoy!

But it should be in the meltdownthread.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Billups also started Ayton instead of Clingan when Ayton was a -6 when starting. Benched Sharpe for poor defense, but rewarded Ant with starting. The Conductor is an idiot

Maybe because of these reasons?

With your list of players we have with allstar potential, everyone in the league has allstar potential then.

Clingan can’t make a layup,
Scoot hasn’t shown anything near allstar potential
Sharpe has talent, but is super inconsistent

Maybe the idiot thought that handing them the starting position was the wrong approach and tried to motivate them to work harder to get better, knowing quite well they were the future. But I am sure you know
more than he does.

 

[blazerkor]

I don't think that buying out Deandre will mean keeping Time Lord. The rumor was that both of them were being aggressively shopped ahead of the draft. So I expect both will be gone by the start of the season. Deandre was a lot bigger financial commitment than Rob so we'll wait and see if Rob is moved.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I was going to say maybe a team trades for him and was looking at all the contenders and I think it's very likely unless i am wrong and just not seeing something or a GM gets desperate he is I would say 80% plus going to be a Blazer until the deadline next season.

 

[inconceivable]

I was going to say maybe a team trades for him and was looking at all the contenders and I think it's very likely unless i am wrong and just not seeing something or a GM gets desperate he is I would say 80% plus going to be a Blazer until the deadline next season.

we did not keep bari so having rob back up 4 / 5 is ok

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think more than likely, he will be a deadline trade if he shows he is healthy enough to finish the season for a playoff team.
The compensation will be minimal, though. Maybe a 2nd?