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Only rap artists I actually follow, not just listen to a couple of songs are Eminem, The Game, and Kanye. I used to listen to Tupac but out-listened him. His music just doesn't appeal any longer. I only listen to the type of rap that is not mainstream. Eminem has a lot of mainstream songs, but he doesn't say stupid things like "wait till you see my dick wait till you see my dick" for an entire song. Anyways Rock (all types -- Metal, hard rock, classic rock, alternrock, indie, nu metal, e t c) is real music. It isn't computer-generated music with people talking. rap fan boys say in rap it's all about flow. In rock, a song is messed up w/o flow. if a rap song doesn't have any flow people will just be like "hahaha i like this song a good rapper made it he has good songs". Rock music is original, guitars, drums, piano, violins, saxes, etc. I rap myself but I make my own music and I have almost like a signing flow/tune when i rap. not really rapping, but not rock either. I guess it's nu metal/rap metal by myself. But rock has a lot more variety.
 
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People stereotype rap way to much, with the exception of a few here I don't think anyone here really knows much about the genre or anything about the artists in general.
 
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People here stereotype too much.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jun 27 2006, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Ultimate Musical Debate. Which powerhouse genre wins?I'm with Rock 100%. It's older, it has more variety, and it's just great all around. Whereas rap is more:"I need a dime, top of the line.............." Maybe it's just they speak faster than I can hear, but some is just annoying "booty booty booty booty booty.......", while some is just too sucky.Kanye West and Public Enemy is all the rap I listen too. While the rock list can go on and on.</div>wow, that is the saddest comeback i ever heard. First of all there are diffrent rap styles. You are the type of person that stereotypes rappers. You are not liking the "booty booty booty...." but you know, not every kind of rap is like that. That is that rapper. There are diffrent rap styles. There is West Coast Rap (My style) East Coast Rap (old school is better) and the South style rap. So diffrent styles say and sound totally diffrent. Me personally I listen to The Game, Atmosphere, Binary Star, Wu-Tang, Bone Thugs, Mos Def, Immortal Technique,Tupac, Biggie, E-40, Kanye West, Common.. i could go on and on, but my point is all thoes peoples styles are nothing like that booty booty booty crap and that "im lookin for a dime..." I like Rock by the way. I love Boston, Tom petty, ACDC, Def Lepard, Van Halen, i can go on and on on rock to.. i love them both.. but in this Era.. Im saying I like Rap More
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jordan4pres. @ Jun 29 2006, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow, that is the saddest comeback i ever heard. First of all there are diffrent rap styles. You are the type of person that stereotypes rappers. You are not liking the "booty booty booty...." but you know, not every kind of rap is like that. That is that rapper. There are diffrent rap styles. There is West Coast Rap (My style) East Coast Rap (old school is better) and the South style rap. So diffrent styles say and sound totally diffrent. Me personally I listen to The Game, Atmosphere, Binary Star, Wu-Tang, Bone Thugs, Mos Def, Immortal Technique,Tupac, Biggie, E-40, Kanye West, Common.. i could go on and on, but my point is all thoes peoples styles are nothing like that booty booty booty crap and that "im lookin for a dime..." I like Rock by the way. I love Boston, Tom petty, ACDC, Def Lepard, Van Halen, i can go on and on on rock to.. i love them both.. but in this Era.. Im saying I like Rap More</div>you have good taste in music jordan4prez :worthy:
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jordan4pres. @ Jun 29 2006, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow, that is the saddest comeback i ever heard. First of all there are diffrent rap styles. You are the type of person that stereotypes rappers. You are not liking the "booty booty booty...." but you know, not every kind of rap is like that. That is that rapper. There are diffrent rap styles. There is West Coast Rap (My style) East Coast Rap (old school is better) and the South style rap. So diffrent styles say and sound totally diffrent. Me personally I listen to The Game, Atmosphere, Binary Star, Wu-Tang, Bone Thugs, Mos Def, Immortal Technique,Tupac, Biggie, E-40, Kanye West, Common.. i could go on and on, but my point is all thoes peoples styles are nothing like that booty booty booty crap and that "im lookin for a dime..." I like Rock by the way. I love Boston, Tom petty, ACDC, Def Lepard, Van Halen, i can go on and on on rock to.. i love them both.. but in this Era.. Im saying I like Rap More</div>Tom Petty, ACDC, and Van Halen are awesome. out of the rap artists you listed; The Game, Wu-Tang Clan, Bone Thugs N harmony, Tupac and Kanye West are the ones I appreciate. Good list :closedeyes:
 
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I actually think most rap fans here don't know much about rap. They probably just know mainstream rap, and nothing else
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jul 1 2006, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually think most rap fans here don't know much about rap. They probably just know mainstream rap, and nothing else</div>i hope you are not talking about me
 
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Actually, yuo are exactly who I was referring to(I'm just kidding. I know nothing about rap whatsoever. Don't tell anyone)
 
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I hate mainstream rap, Im an only Rap Fan.I listen to old D12, not the new albumOld EminemImmortal TechniqueAtmosphereJoe BuddenRakimNasThe GameRoyce da 5'9Eazy-EDr.DreEtc.And not all rap is sex, drugs violence and all that, thats just stereotyping.
 
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rap is better than rock becuz it has flow and its not always really loud and annoying it tells about a lot of there lifes and in rap yes they talk bout violence drugs and sex but its what happend in there life and its pretty uch all true for rock they ramble on bout pretty much the same stuff but it really hasnt happend to them for instance 50 cent raps bout being shot and he has 9 times and in rock people talk bout drugs they might have done but most of them just try to fit in noyt all rock is bad but mostly incorect
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (madaifan91 @ Jul 3 2006, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>rap is better than rock becuz it has flow and its not always really loud and annoying it tells about a lot of there lifes and in rap yes they talk bout violence drugs and sex but its what happend in there life and its pretty uch all true for rock they ramble on bout pretty much the same stuff but it really hasnt happend to them for instance 50 cent raps bout being shot and he has 9 times and in rock people talk bout drugs they might have done but most of them just try to fit in noyt all rock is bad but mostly incorect</div>50 Cent, doesnt talk about getting shot 9 times, he sings about best friends and all that other gay sh*t because hes a f*cking faggot.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (YugoRocketsFan @ Jul 3 2006, 04:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate mainstream rap, Im an only Rap Fan.I listen to old D12, not the new albumOld EminemImmortal TechniqueAtmosphereJoe BuddenRakimNasThe GameRoyce da 5'9Eazy-EDr.DreEtc.And not all rap is sex, drugs violence and all that, thats just stereotyping.</div>you put dr.dre and not tupac? all dre mosly talked was sex,drugs,violence and same with Eazy-E..but im a huge eazy-e fan GIMME THAT NUT lol i love that song,but seriously add tupac to that list<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (YugoRocketsFan @ Jul 3 2006, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>50 Cent, doesnt talk about getting shot 9 times, he sings about best friends and all that other gay sh*t because hes a f*cking faggot.</div>Amen :worthy: like i said before just watch the movie "Beef III"
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jun 28 2006, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the new rock. Not so much the death screamo or hawthorne heights, but the new rap is worse than ever though. "Gotta stay fly ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah Till I die ah ah.........Once again, most rappers speak faster than they can hear. People talk about how rappers had it tough when they were raised. No money to go around, but some rockers went through the same stuff.</div>New rock like emo and punk sucks. Only new rock that is good is nu metal and hard rock. Disturbed, Linkin Park, etc are only good new bands. Metallica, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Black Sabbath are all examples of amazing previous old metal bands.
 
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aight YugoRocketsFan have u ever listened to any other songs by 50 he raps bout everything that happends to him so if u dont kno than shut up cuz the best friends song was one of a few of 50's not so hard core songs he mostly raps bout his life in the ghetto and for all the rappers i didnt mention like pac snoop and g-unit there all great to
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 3 2006, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you put dr.dre and not tupac? all dre mosly talked was sex,drugs,violence and same with Eazy-E..but im a huge eazy-e fan GIMME THAT NUT lol i love that song,but seriously add tupac to that listAmen :worthy: like i said before just watch the movie "Beef III"</div>Dre was one of the west coast rappers who helped make rap what it is now, NWA, Dre, Snoop and everyone else from the west coast really changed the rap game. Dre doesn't talk about drugs or violence mainly, the occasional sex is right though. Tupac is the most overrated rapper EVER. He never dropped a classic album (All Eyez On Me is NOT classic) but his greatest hits and unreleased stuff makes for it. Whether he is alive or not doesn't really matter but what it did do for him is boost his sales by ALOT. If you were to put Tupac's greatest hits against other great rappers, his would probably come out on top. He never released a classic album and most of his other albums were just "average" with a few good hits in it.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 3 2006, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dre was one of the west coast rappers who helped make rap what it is now, NWA, Dre, Snoop and everyone else from the west coast really changed the rap game. Dre doesn't talk about drugs or violence mainly, the occasional sex is right though. Tupac is the most overrated rapper EVER. He never dropped a classic album (All Eyez On Me is NOT classic) but his greatest hits and unreleased stuff makes for it. Whether he is alive or not doesn't really matter but what it did do for him is boost his sales by ALOT. If you were to put Tupac's greatest hits against other great rappers, his would probably come out on top. He never released a classic album and most of his other albums were just "average" with a few good hits in it.</div>no doubt dre was a great rapper i never said he wasnt but you put him in the class of rappers that dont talk about that stuff and that was wrong, and how in the hell can you say "Me Against The World" wasnt a classic album?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (madaifan91 @ Jul 3 2006, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>aight YugoRocketsFan have u ever listened to any other songs by 50 he raps bout everything that happends to him so if u dont kno than shut up cuz the best friends song was one of a few of 50's not so hard core songs he mostly raps bout his life in the ghetto and for all the rappers i didnt mention like pac snoop and g-unit there all great to</div>dont ever put g-unit in the same class as tupac or even snoop ever again :no3:
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 4 2006, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and how in the hell can you say "Me Against The World" wasnt a classic album?</div>Because it wasn't, way to many poor songs. The closest thing Tupac has to a classic album is All Eyez On Me and even then it had around 3-4 bad songs in it. A classic album is well, classic. No flaws, you can't have bad tracks. Your view on Tupac just proves my point of how extremely overrated he is, I hope I don't hear that any of you actually think he is the GOAT.
 
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i like both sides of rap east and west thats not even a battle anymore so its fine if i mention g-unit w/ snoop and pac
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (madaifan91 @ Jul 4 2006, 08:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i like both sides of rap east and west thats not even a battle anymore so its fine if i mention g-unit w/ snoop and pac</div>I think you missed the point.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (madaifan91 @ Jul 4 2006, 06:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i like both sides of rap east and west thats not even a battle anymore so its fine if i mention g-unit w/ snoop and pac</div>wow...my point was that tupac and snoop are 2 of the best rappers and g-unit are the worst rappers therefore comparing them together is just wrong,i dont know how else to explain it<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 3 2006, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because it wasn't, way to many poor songs. The closest thing Tupac has to a classic album is All Eyez On Me and even then it had around 3-4 bad songs in it. A classic album is well, classic. No flaws, you can't have bad tracks. Your view on Tupac just proves my point of how extremely overrated he is, I hope I don't hear that any of you actually think he is the GOAT.</div>hey man,theres nothing i can do to change your opinon but tupac at least deserves to be on that list i never said he was the best rapper of all time but hes in the top 15 mc/rapper of all time including guys like kool moe dee and slick rick etc personally im not an idiot i know pac wasnt the best rapper of all time but he is my FAVORITE as in that just how i feel i dont go around yelling tupac g.o.a.t or anything like that lol just tupac is good rapper and is doesnt matter if hes overrated and actually Me Against the World WAS a classic album, tell me one bad song on that list that wasnt any good,oh yea and the Makaveli don killuminati album wasnt that bad either1. Intro 2. If I Die 2Night 3. Me Against the World 4. So Many Tears 5. Temptations 6. Young Niggaz 7. Heavy In The Game 8. Lord Knows 9. Dear Mama 10. It Ain't Easy 11. Can U Get Away 12. Old School 13. F*ck The World 14. Death Around The Corner 15. Outlaw
 
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Heavy in the gameLord KnowsF**k the world Are all all below average/decent songs at best.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 4 2006, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Heavy in the gameLord KnowsF**k the world Are all all below average/decent songs at best.</div>"heavy in the game" is the only average/decent song on the album,"lord knows" is a great song and i relate to it: "i smoke a blunt to take the pain out,if i wasnt high id probly try to blow my brains out,im hopeless,they should have killed me as a baby,now they got me trapped in the storm im goin crazy..lol i know the song by heart and "F*ck the world" is considered one of pac's best songs what in the hell are you talking about? just ask any tupac fan about that song and see if they like i,even ask primetime
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jun 28 2006, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>People stereotype rap way to much, with the exception of a few here I don't think anyone here really knows much about the genre or anything about the artists in general.</div>People just aren't able to tell the difference between Hip-Hop and Rap. Lil Jon is Hip-Hop . . Eminem is Rap ... not being able to tell the difference is what gives Rap the bad name. Hip-Hop is all party songs about "f*cking ho's, pimpin bitches", while Rap is what Tupac, Eminem, Game, etc. talk about. R&B is still better though, tells a guy how to get into a girls heart and pants :happy0144:
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 4 2006, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"heavy in the game" is the only average/decent song on the album,"lord knows" is a great song and i relate to it: "i smoke a blunt to take the pain out,if i wasnt high id probly try to blow my brains out,im hopeless,they should have killed me as a baby,now they got me trapped in the storm im goin crazy..lol i know the song by heart and "F*ck the world" is considered one of pac's best songs what in the hell are you talking about? just ask any tupac fan about that song and see if they like i,even ask primetime</div>You just proved the point of others, Tupac talking about blunts and violence in that song. As for the other song, yeah it's really good hearing F*ck the world in the chorus every time, probably the worst song on that album.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 4 2006, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You just proved the point of others, Tupac talking about blunts and violence in that song. As for the other song, yeah it's really good hearing F*ck the world in the chorus every time, probably the worst song on that album.</div>have you even listened to those songs?in "lord knows" hes talking about the pain that a man goes through in the ghetto to make a man say those things and just because he talks about smokin blunts doesnt make him a bad rapper,dr.dre talk about smokin blunts all the time thus the album "The Chronic" and "F*ck the world" is a pretty good song,now this song isnt one of tupac's best songs but its not one of his worst,you need to stop being a pac hater and realize that if it werent for tupac rap wouldnt be the way it is today as in it would be like the things that snoop dogg and dr.dre rap about tupac brought truth to the rap game even the album "2pacalypse Now" is a true example of this,but if you want to hear tupac at his best listen to the album Makaveli the don killuminati which is his best album,me against the world is my favorite but the makaveli album is his best,but anyway heatfan i dont feel like arguing and i think you won the argument because im starting to argue about tupac being a good rapper and not about the list,heatfan32 you are pretty cool,sometimes i get too carried away in debates...
 
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Now I'm not going to say he didn't change rap but lets get a few things straight here..-The whole "gangster" life rhymes came from Ice Cube, he was the first one to do that and make it a way of life.-The Chronic hardly talks about drugs, just because it's the name doesn't mean thats what it was based on.-Pac hater? More like setting the facts straight, he is the most overrated rapper of all time only because of his greatest hits and his whole "fake death" nonsense.
 
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Just got around to seeing this debate and I think that Rap is ten times better then Rock N Roll..I must admit that there are some songs that are Rock N Roll that I like, but if they are that new screamo type then I'm not for it. I like the classical rock n roll if anything, but still even then I am very picky. Rap to me is the best music out there along with RnB. I mean the flow, beat and everything is just so nice. Plus when you go to a dance for your school or w/e you can't grind to Rock N Roll. Maybe I am really into Rap because I was raised around it seeing as my sister listened to it and so did all her friends but for the most part rap kills rnr.
 
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