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ABM said:
Sometimes sarcasm isn't intended to be a joke.

To splain it to ya, it's a bit ironic to me that so many people are up in arms about women having full control of their bodies and their potential children. Yet, when they do become mothers, somehow the government is supposed to know more than them and do what it thinks best with their child.
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Continue making a made up argument. It's a good look for you
 
julius said:
Considering your track record of not seeing Trump as one, I find it hard to believe that you even understand what that means
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Try to keep up.
 
YamTastic said:
The Supreme Court opinion suggests that fundamental gay rights are on the chopping block next:

“Respondents . . . rely on post-Casey decisions like Lawrence v. Texas and Obergefell v. Hodges. These attempts to justify abortion through appeals to a broader right to autonomy and to define one’s ‘concept of existence’ prove too much. Those criteria, at a high level of generality, could license fundamental rights to illicit drug use, prostitution, and the like. None of these rights has any claim to being deeply rooted in history.”​

For those who don’t know, Lawrence v. Texas was a landmark queer rights case because it struck down laws that criminalized homosexual intercourse. Obergefell v. Hodges is the landmark case that legalized same-gender marriage. And in this opinion, the Court implies that these freedoms are comparable to allowing drug use and prostitution, it explicitly says that these rationales have gone too far, and that these rights are not rooted in American history.

The Court is showing its hand and how it views what it perceives to be Court-created rights (abortion, gay marriage, gay sexual intercourse, etc.). Basically, the Court seems to be overturning the framework of substantive due process, which is the doctrine that creates these basic rights, by requiring a historical root—which marginalized people obviously do not have, since, historically speaking, women, queer folk, and people of color did not have equal rights.

If abortion rights can be overturned on this logic, so can queer rights (Lawrence, Obergefell), contraceptives (Griswold v. Connecticut), maybe even interracial marriage (Loving v. Virginia).
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Yep, they are going for all of it. They need to make America great again in their own image.
 
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I would laugh (sarcastically) if this sparked a blue wave this winter….
 
julius said:
You weren't paying attention then. Hehe. The guy is a walking talking disaster
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I thought the things that make it so hard for Democrats to give us decent healthcare, access to education, clean energy, and a healthy environment might also make it hard for Trump to destroy the country.

Turns out that was all just a bunch of bullshit. If you get a motivated person in office they can do what they want. We just haven't had anybody who was actually interested in doing what's right for the American people...
 
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ehizzy3 said:
I would laugh (sarcastically) if this sparked a blue wave this winter….
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Yeah... Dems would gain control, just enough to give abortions back and gain some momentum then they would be "blocked" from getting anything else done for the people.

But they would be heroes... and we'd get another decade or so of nothing much going on as the Dems and Republicans throw wedge issues back and forth never trying to actually improve the lives of the population.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yeah... Dems would gain control, just enough to give abortions back and gain some momentum then they would be "blocked" from getting anything else done for the people.

But they would be heroes... and we'd get another decade or so of nothing much going on as the Dems and Republicans throw wedge issues back and forth never trying to actually improve the lives of the population.
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sounds a lot better than the path we are staring at right now

Edit: fake news
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yeah... Dems would gain control, just enough to give abortions back and gain some momentum then they would be "blocked" from getting anything else done for the people.

But they would be heroes... and we'd get another decade or so of nothing much going on as the Dems and Republicans throw wedge issues back and forth never trying to actually improve the lives of the population.
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Sounds exhausting.
 
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