OT Roe V Wade In Trouble

[Road Ratt]

Supreme Court To Strike Down Roe v. Wade, Leaked Opinion Shows

 

[Natebishop3]

Everybody who is saying this now needs to send $500 cash to each person they made fun of in 2015-2020 for being "fearmongers".

You weren't paying attention then. Hehe. The guy is a walking talking disaster

Hold up.... nobody thought he'd get to place that many justices. That couldn't have possibly been imagined.

 

[crandc]

Outlander is not such an amusing fantasy when you realize the Republican party and its supremacist court wing want to send the entire country to the 18th century. When women were property, people of color had no rights and LGBTQ people were burned at the stake.

 

[Phatguysrule]

It is time to tax every church that uses its voice in the political arena.

It's well beyond time for that.

 

[barfo]

I thought the things that make it so hard for Democrats to give us decent healthcare, access to education, clean energy, and a healthy environment might also make it hard for Trump to destroy the country.

Turns out that was all just a bunch of bullshit. If you get a motivated person in office they can do what they want. We just haven't had anybody who was actually interested in doing what's right for the American people...

Destroying things is easier than building them.
Those who break the rules have an advantage over those that follow the rules.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

Destroying things is easier than building them.
Those who break the rules have an advantage over those that follow the rules.

barfo

I'm perfectly fine with breaking the "rules" to get universal healthcare, education, and housing... Break the systems that prevent that.

Bring it on.

But again, we'd have to actually vote somebody in who would care enough to do it.

 

[barfo]

I'm perfectly fine with breaking the "rules" to get universal healthcare, education, and housing... Break the systems that prevent that.

Bring it on.

But again, we'd have to actually vote somebody in who would care enough to do it.

Yep. Or maybe we'd first need to collectively decide that we wanted it done, then finding someone to vote for who wanted to do it would be substantially easier.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

Yep. Or maybe we'd first need to collectively decide that we wanted it done, then finding someone to vote for who wanted to do it would be substantially easier.

barfo

Like we all agreed that we wanted the tax cuts for the rich and the abortion protections removed?

I see.

 

[barfo]

Like we all agreed that we wanted the tax cuts for the rich and the abortion protections removed?

I see.

No, that's the breaking things and the rules part.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

No, that's the breaking things and the rules part.

barfo

Again, I'm good with breaking things. Break something that results in paying regular people the same money the tax breaks paid the wealthy.

And break all the rules you need to get that done.

But you'd have to have somebody who actually wanted to help the middle class and poor.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The 26 states that are ready to do an outright ban of abortion if Roe v Wade is overturned, does anyone know if any of that was ballot measure or were all by state legislative?

 

[julius]

The 26 states that are ready to do an outright ban of abortion if Roe v Wade is overturned, does anyone know if any of that was ballot measure or were all by state legislative?

Ha, you think states that want to take away womens rights want to give people the chance to vote for it?

 

[Chris Craig]

Amazon to Reimburse U.S. Employees up to $5000 Who Travel for Abortions

https://money.usnews.com/investing/...who-travel-for-treatments-including-abortions

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rubio-introduces-bill-prohibiting-employers-224502844.html

Rubio introducing a bill to make sure that $5000 is fully taxed.

 

[julius]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rubio-introduces-bill-prohibiting-employers-224502844.html

Rubio introducing a bill to make sure that $5000 is fully taxed.

Rubio "Our tax code should be pro-family and promote a culture of life," Rubio told Fox News. "Instead, too often our corporations find loopholes to subsidize the murder of unborn babies or horrific 'medical' treatments on kids."

Wait, the tax code should be what now?

And NOW he's worried about loopholes??

Fuck him with a dull fork.

 

[crandc]

Legislative, not popular vote. Some of those laws are a hundred years old, preempted by Roe, but never taken off the books.

House passed reproductive freedom act which Moscow Mitch filibustered in Senate. And real possibility supremacist court could overturn national law.
There have been other reactionary decisions, Dred Scott and Plessy among most infamous. But both those cases upheld gross injustice, slavery and segregation. They did not re-establish injustice. Never before has the court taken away a civil right. They gutted voting rights act and equal pay act but did not flat out say Black people can't be allowed to vote. Just that it's OK to make it really really hard to do so.
This is an extremely radical unprecedented decision that established court can take away any civil rights. As has been mentioned, birth control, marriage equality, even interracial marriage could be next.
During confirmation hearings, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett all said Roe was established law, confirmed several times by court. They all lied. Under oath.

 

[bigbailes]

Get ready for intellectual brain drain. Young intelligent people are not going to be staying in this shit hole of a nation.

Is this like all the people that claimed they were moving out of the country in 2016 if Trump won, and then stayed right here? As someone living in a red state, I'm not seeing what you are with people leaving in droves, in fact people seem to be tripping over themselves to move to Texas.

According to the census, these are the states showing the highest population growth since 2010:

1. 1. Utah – population +18.37%
   2. Idaho – population +17.32%
   3. Texas – population +15.91%
   4. North Dakota – population +15.83%
   5. Nevada – population +14.96%
   6. Colorado – population +14.8%
   7. Washington – population +14.58%
   8. Florida – population +14.56%
   9. Arizona – population +11.88%
   10. South Carolina – population +10.66%

Interesting that you have the top 4 are all red states and Florida is growing despite claims of otherwise ... again this isn't perfect as you're talking about 'young' people but just like in 16 ... it's so much easier to say you're going to leave, than to actually do it!

 

[Fairly-Hard]

The Great Pendulum!
Go ahead and swing it that far right! They will not see another Republican president for 20 years!
Your vote matters! White women might even vote for a white woman?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Legislative, not popular vote. Some of those laws are a hundred years old, preempted by Roe, but never taken off the books.

House passed reproductive freedom act which Moscow Mitch filibustered in Senate. And real possibility supremacist court could overturn national law.
There have been other reactionary decisions, Dred Scott and Plessy among most infamous. But both those cases upheld gross injustice, slavery and segregation. They did not re-establish injustice. Never before has the court taken away a civil right. They gutted voting rights act and equal pay act but did not flat out say Black people can't be allowed to vote. Just that it's OK to make it really really hard to do so.
This is an extremely radical unprecedented decision that established court can take away any civil rights. As has been mentioned, birth control, marriage equality, even interracial marriage could be next.
During confirmation hearings, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett all said Roe was established law, confirmed several times by court. They all lied. Under oath.

Lied under oath during confirmation hearings about how they would do their job should be grounds for impeachment, no? Or, at the very least, restructuring the court.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Is this like all the people that claimed they were moving out of the country in 2016 if Trump won, and then stayed right here? As someone living in a red state, I'm not seeing what you are with people leaving in droves, in fact people seem to be tripping over themselves to move to Texas.

According to the census, these are the states showing the highest population growth since 2010:

1. 1. Utah – population +18.37%
   2. Idaho – population +17.32%
   3. Texas – population +15.91%
   4. North Dakota – population +15.83%
   5. Nevada – population +14.96%
   6. Colorado – population +14.8%
   7. Washington – population +14.58%
   8. Florida – population +14.56%
   9. Arizona – population +11.88%
   10. South Carolina – population +10.66%

Interesting that you have the top 4 are all red states and Florida is growing despite claims of otherwise ... again this isn't perfect as you're talking about 'young' people but just like in 16 ... it's so much easier to say you're going to leave, than to actually do it!

This is actually a good thing. The more people who move there the less red those states may become.

 

[crandc]

Lest you think my 18th century references were hyperbole, Alito quoted heavily one Judge Hale, an 18th century British jurist who legally established that men have the right to rape their wives, and personally ordered two women burned at the stake for witchcraft. Kind of legal mind Republicans admire.

 

[bigbailes]

This is actually a good thing. The more people who move there the less red those states may become.

Maybe ... maybe not ... only time will tell. From what I've seen in Texas, it seems like it's drawing out more of the republicans to the polls to try and make sure that their state (or as some here still view it 'country') doesn't get overrun by those 'stupid Californians' or where ever they are moving from.

 

[calvin natt]

Is this like all the people that claimed they were moving out of the country in 2016 if Trump won, and then stayed right here? As someone living in a red state, I'm not seeing what you are with people leaving in droves, in fact people seem to be tripping over themselves to move to Texas.

According to the census, these are the states showing the highest population growth since 2010:

1. 1. Utah – population +18.37%
   2. Idaho – population +17.32%
   3. Texas – population +15.91%
   4. North Dakota – population +15.83%
   5. Nevada – population +14.96%
   6. Colorado – population +14.8%
   7. Washington – population +14.58%
   8. Florida – population +14.56%
   9. Arizona – population +11.88%
   10. South Carolina – population +10.66%

Interesting that you have the top 4 are all red states and Florida is growing despite claims of otherwise ... again this isn't perfect as you're talking about 'young' people but just like in 16 ... it's so much easier to say you're going to leave, than to actually do it!

I dont think this list indicates anything about young smart people and the idea of leaving. I don’t necessarily think that would ever happen but this list is a bunch of red states plus CO and WA. Young smart people are “leaving” for 8/10 of those states

 

[bigbailes]

I dont think this list indicates anything about young smart people and the idea of leaving. I don’t necessarily think that would ever happen but this list is a bunch of red states plus CO and WA. Young smart people are “leaving” for 8/10 of those states

Yes ... which is why I put that at the end of the post but it is showing where people are moving. How many of those that said they were leaving in 16 actually followed through, I don't know of any. The threat of moving away is usually just that, a threat because more often than not people gravitate to what they know and what is comfortable.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Maybe ... maybe not ... only time will tell. From what I've seen in Texas, it seems like it's drawing out more of the republicans to the polls to try and make sure that their state (or as some here still view it 'country') doesn't get overrun by those 'stupid Californians' or where ever they are moving from.

That's fine. The numbers will only hold up so long... As people move to those states for the cheap property they'll overwhelm the ignorant hicks.

 

[julius]

That's fine. The numbers will only hold up so long... As people move to those states for the cheap property they'll overwhelm the ignorant hicks.

I know people who moved to Montana *because* they wanted to be around ignorant hicks. Not because they wanted to take advantage of them, they wanted to be away from the diversity of Portland.

And whats funny about it? They're an older couple, early 80's, and their daughter's in her mid 50's...their daughter looks hispanic, yet hates non whites.

I could never wrap my brain around that.

 

[Shaboid]

Yes ... which is why I put that at the end of the post but it is showing where people are moving. How many of those that said they were leaving in 16 actually followed through, I don't know of any. The threat of moving away is usually just that, a threat because more often than not people gravitate to what they know and what is comfortable.

I have one family member that said he was going to and now that he's retiring at the end of the schoolyear, he's actually doing it. Got a flat somewhere in Paris. I'm excited to visit!

 

[bigbailes]

The blanket statements thrown out here by some on the internet really is amazing. Makes me wonder if people really think this way or there is some condition about being behind a keyboard that brings it out.

 

[calvin natt]

Yes ... which is why I put that at the end of the post but it is showing where people are moving. How many of those that said they were leaving in 16 actually followed through, I don't know of any. The threat of moving away is usually just that, a threat because more often than not people gravitate to what they know and what is comfortable.

One of the main reasons is because it’s not easy to do. You don’t just pack up and move to Canada. If it was easy I think you’d see a lot more people do it. I’d live in Vancouver.

 

[Phatguysrule]

The blanket statements thrown out here by some on the internet really is amazing. Makes me wonder if people really think this way or there is some condition about being behind a keyboard that brings it out.

Your post seems kind of like a blanket statement. Care to be more specific?

 

[Chris Craig]

This is actually a good thing. The more people who move there the less red those states may become.

Unless it's all Republicans moving there to get out of blue states