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MarAzul said:
By golly!
That does capture the essence of the problem.
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Roger Stone slams Mueller indictment, says he's prepared for the fight of his life

By Elizabeth Zwirz | Fox News

Stone on his indictment: This is about silencing me, criminalizing political expression

Former Trump adviser Roger Stone said in a Fox News interview Friday that the indictment brought against him as part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation is "thin" and is really "about silencing" him. But, Stone said, he was prepared for the fight of his life.

"There's a war on alternative media," he said. "There’s a war where they’re trying to criminalize political expression. There’s a war where they’re trying to criminalize free speech."

Stone’s remarks on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight” came after he was taken into custody earlier Friday and indicted on charges of obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering.

"I’m in for the fight of my life but I will not quit. I will not fold. I will not bend. I will not bear false witness against the president," Stone said. "I intend to fight because this indictment is fabricated. This indictment is thin as can be."

At a news conference earlier in the day, Stone vowed to fight the allegations, slamming the charges as "politically motivated."

Stone, who was arrested in Fort Lauderdale on Friday morning, told Carlson that he would've turned himself in had authorities gotten in touch with his attorney. Video aired by CNN of the arrest showed numerous FBI agents with guns banging on Stone’s door and demanding that he come outside.

Stone said it was "disconcerting" that the network "was aware that I would be arrested before my lawyers were informed."

"I had no firearm in the house. I don’t have a permit for a firearm. I don’t own a firearm. Only my wife, my two dogs, my three cats were at home," he said.

"I’m not a flight risk, in fact, I think my passport has expired or it will expire in a few days. I have no record of a criminal past. And frankly, they just could have contacted my attorney and I would have voluntarily turned myself in," Stone said. "The proof of this is that only hours later, the judge granted me a $250,000 surety bond, meaning on my signature with no funds put forward because I’m not a flight risk."

The indictment unsealed Friday does not charge Stone with conspiring with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website that published emails of Democrats during the 2016 campaign, or with the Russian officers Mueller says hacked them. Instead, it accuses him of lying about his interactions related to WikiLeaks' release during probes by Congress and Mueller’s team.

The indictment states that during the summer of 2016, Stone spoke to senior Trump campaign officials about WikiLeaks and information it might have had that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. (This is perfectly legal and normal.)

It also said Stone was contacted by senior Trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases, and that Stone continued to communicate with members of the Trump campaign about WikiLeaks. (This is perfectly legal and normal.)

The 24-page indictment alleged that Stone worked to obstruct the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election by making false statements to the committee, denying he had records sought by the committee and persuading a witness to provide false testimony.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ro...t-says-hes-prepared-for-the-fight-of-his-life
 
MARIS61 said:
Roger Stone slams Mueller indictment, says he's prepared for the fight of his life

By Elizabeth Zwirz | Fox News

Stone on his indictment: This is about silencing me, criminalizing political expression

Former Trump adviser Roger Stone said in a Fox News interview Friday that the indictment brought against him as part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation is "thin" and is really "about silencing" him. But, Stone said, he was prepared for the fight of his life.

"There's a war on alternative media," he said. "There’s a war where they’re trying to criminalize political expression. There’s a war where they’re trying to criminalize free speech."

Stone’s remarks on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight” came after he was taken into custody earlier Friday and indicted on charges of obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering.

"I’m in for the fight of my life but I will not quit. I will not fold. I will not bend. I will not bear false witness against the president," Stone said. "I intend to fight because this indictment is fabricated. This indictment is thin as can be."

At a news conference earlier in the day, Stone vowed to fight the allegations, slamming the charges as "politically motivated."

Stone, who was arrested in Fort Lauderdale on Friday morning, told Carlson that he would've turned himself in had authorities gotten in touch with his attorney. Video aired by CNN of the arrest showed numerous FBI agents with guns banging on Stone’s door and demanding that he come outside.

Stone said it was "disconcerting" that the network "was aware that I would be arrested before my lawyers were informed."

"I had no firearm in the house. I don’t have a permit for a firearm. I don’t own a firearm. Only my wife, my two dogs, my three cats were at home," he said.

"I’m not a flight risk, in fact, I think my passport has expired or it will expire in a few days. I have no record of a criminal past. And frankly, they just could have contacted my attorney and I would have voluntarily turned myself in," Stone said. "The proof of this is that only hours later, the judge granted me a $250,000 surety bond, meaning on my signature with no funds put forward because I’m not a flight risk."

The indictment unsealed Friday does not charge Stone with conspiring with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website that published emails of Democrats during the 2016 campaign, or with the Russian officers Mueller says hacked them. Instead, it accuses him of lying about his interactions related to WikiLeaks' release during probes by Congress and Mueller’s team.

The indictment states that during the summer of 2016, Stone spoke to senior Trump campaign officials about WikiLeaks and information it might have had that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. (This is perfectly legal and normal.)

It also said Stone was contacted by senior Trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases, and that Stone continued to communicate with members of the Trump campaign about WikiLeaks. (This is perfectly legal and normal.)

The 24-page indictment alleged that Stone worked to obstruct the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election by making false statements to the committee, denying he had records sought by the committee and persuading a witness to provide false testimony.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ro...t-says-hes-prepared-for-the-fight-of-his-life
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I would say this is disgusting.
But in reality, it is just pure Chicken shit.
 
MarAzul said:
I would say this is disgusting.
But in reality, it is just pure Chicken shit.
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I saw the raid on the news Friday morning and immediately thought it was overkill. I wondered if they thought they'd catch Putin in his spare bedroom.

Then I remembered. They had to sneak up on him with guns out...he's a wizard.

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bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I saw the raid on the news Friday morning and immediately thought it was overkill. I wondered if they thought they'd catch Putin in his spare bedroom.
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How many FBI raids have you watched where you immediately thought it was underkill? None, right?

Law enforcement prefers overkill whenever they can, and the FBI always can. It's nothing special about Roger.

barfo
 
barfo said:
How many FBI raids have you watched where you immediately thought it was underkill? None, right?

Law enforcement prefers overkill whenever they can, and the FBI always can. It's nothing special about Roger.

barfo
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Abusing power is abusing power.

At what point would you find it overkill?

Burn his house with him in it?

How many raids do you think they do like this that end with the judge letting the suspect out by signing his name?

At least they didn't shoot his dogs.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I saw the raid on the news Friday morning and immediately thought it was overkill. I wondered if they thought they'd catch Putin in his spare bedroom.

Then I remembered. They had to sneak up on him with guns out...he's a wizard.

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Although I do agree the raid size was overkill as it almost always is, that has nothing to do do with the merits of the raid.

So far, Mueller has been tempered and fully able to back every claim with physical evidence. Until Mueller stumbles, I’ll assume Stone is fucked, guilty and will end up either in jail, flipping on Trump or both.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Abusing power is abusing power.

At what point would you find it overkill?

Burn his house with him in it?

How many raids do you think they do like this that end with the judge letting the suspect out by signing his name?
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Probably lots. You've got a long way to go to convince me this was somehow out of the ordinary.

Not saying I condone law enforcement overkill, but unless you complain about other FBI arrests, then I'm not sure why you are complaining about this one.

You've got even further to go to convince me that the most important thing about Roger's arrest is how many FBI agents were present.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Probably lots. You've got a long way to go to convince me this was somehow out of the ordinary.

Not saying I condone law enforcement overkill, but unless you complain about other FBI arrests, then I'm not sure why you are complaining about this one.

You've got even further to go to convince me that the most important thing about Roger's arrest is how many FBI agents were present.

barfo
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I don't feel the need to convince you other than to say if you go back you'll find that I'm almost always against these types of raids. I guess I'm a civil libertarian like Dershowitz.

I recall being the only one who was against the cops in Texas doing this...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw0XA4asUlUdF2uxPfi1h9Tc&ust=1548609057615798

Maybe there were others. I didn't search for the thread here. Will do so when I get to the gym.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I just saw the police defending blowing up the suspect because he "lied to and taunted negotiatiors" during the TWO hour standoff.

It also said he wrote something on the walls in his own blood, so clearly he suffered. Yet they try to act like a headshot from a sniper and a bomb are the same thing.

I got this info from reading the scrolling stuff on the bottom of Fox News. It is always on at the gym.

They had him cornered for two hours, so are we to believe anyone was in imminent danger? I doubt it, they just executed this crazy guy.
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Ok quickly this is from the texas thread.

I was a bit over the top I think from skimming my posts but for crying out loud this seems consistent to me.

I didn't accept them blowing up a cornered suspect like I don't accept the FBI raiding Stone like he is El Chapo.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Ok quickly this is from the texas thread.

I was a bit over the top I think from skimming my posts but for crying out loud this seems consistent to me.

I didn't accept them blowing up a cornered suspect like I don't accept the FBI raiding Stone like he is El Chapo.
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I fully accept that you are consistent on this score. However, the number of cops is still not even remotely the important story here.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I fully accept that you are consistent on this score. However, the number of cops is still not even remotely the important story here.

barfo
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I believe you believe that. I don't stay hooked on this story but believe that Stone is only accused of crimes committed after the election and related to how he reacted to Mueller.

I'm with Dershowitz.

 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I believe you believe that. I don't stay hooked on this story but believe that Stone is only accused of crimes committed after the election and related to how he reacted to Mueller.

I'm with Dershowitz.
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You should rethink that. Dershowitz is senile; you are not.

Yes, Stone was indicted only for post-election cover-up crimes. Not sure how that makes it better? I guess if one believes he lied for no reason whatsoever?

barfo
 
barfo said:
You should rethink that. Dershowitz is senile; you are not.

Yes, Stone was indicted only for post-election cover-up crimes. Not sure how that makes it better? I guess if one believes he lied for no reason whatsoever?

barfo
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Lol at senile. Really? Dershowitz has said the same stuff since I was a kid. Now liberals hate him. Again, lol.

It makes the raid of Stone look even worse. We're crying about a shutdown at the time and we're spending how much to arrest a guy who signs his name to be released and is on talk shows hours later?

It is just silly on every level.

The dumbest thing these people have done is not plead the fifth at every question.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Lol at senile. Really? Dershowitz has said the same stuff since I was a kid. Now liberals hate him. Again, lol.

It makes the raid of Stone look even worse. We're crying about a shutdown at the time and we're spending how much to arrest a guy who signs his name to be released and is on talk shows hours later?

It is just silly on every level.

The dumbest thing these people have done is not plead the fifth at every question.
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99 criminals to indict 99 criminals to indict.
Indict Stone now and take him down, 98 criminals to indict now
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Lol at senile. Really? Dershowitz has said the same stuff since I was a kid. Now liberals hate him. Again, lol.
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I don't know about when you were a kid, but what he's saying now about the law just isn't true in many instances. I didn't watch your video (I'm on a plane) so I'm not speaking of that in particular.

It makes the raid of Stone look even worse. We're crying about a shutdown at the time and we're spending how much to arrest a guy who signs his name to be released and is on talk shows hours later?

It is just silly on every level.
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Well, since the FBI wasn't getting paid at the time, you could say the manpower level was irrelevant.

The reason for the raid was presumably not because he's violent and dangerous, but to keep him from destroying evidence (and to collect it).

The dumbest thing these people have done is not plead the fifth at every question.
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I don't know, the competition for dumbest thing they've done is pretty stiff...

barfo
 
barfo said:
I don't know about when you were a kid, but what he's saying now about the law just isn't true in many instances. I didn't watch your video (I'm on a plane) so I'm not speaking of that in particular.



Well, since the FBI wasn't getting paid at the time, you could say the manpower level was irrelevant.

The reason for the raid was presumably not because he's violent and dangerous, but to keep him from destroying evidence (and to collect it).



I don't know, the competition for dumbest thing they've done is pretty stiff...

barfo
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I can't take people seriously that say they weren't getting paid as if they weren't ever going to get paid.

These people I feel bad for short term.

I'm jealous of the ones who got to stay home and get back pay for nothing.

Lol at our government...again and again.
 
Here is a better song to describe our current situation. Aplogies to Bad Religion, I don't think they mean exactly what I do.

 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I can't take people seriously that say they weren't getting paid as if they weren't ever going to get paid.

These people I feel bad for short term.

I'm jealous of the ones who got to stay home and get back pay for nothing.

Lol at our government...again and again.
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Yes, my reference to that was mostly a joke. I (and they, presumably) knew that they'd get paid eventually.

You could get yourself a government job, if you are jealous of the fun they are having.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Yes, my reference to that was mostly a joke. I (and they, presumably) knew that they'd get paid eventually.

You could get yourself a government job, if you are jealous of the fun they are having.

barfo
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I should have.
 
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