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LOL. God, I can't believe the Democrats have gotten this desperate this early.
 
maxiep said:
LOL. God, I can't believe the Democrats have gotten this desperate this early.
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Like there aren't this many batshit crazy ideas about Obama floating around.
 
westnob said:
Like there aren't this many batshit crazy ideas about Obama floating around.
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Does that make it right?

What's sad is that the Democrats can't come up with a reasonable defense of their policies. It's all about smear tactics.
 
maxiep said:
Does that make it right?

What's sad is that the Democrats can't come up with a reasonable defense of their policies. It's all about smear tactics.
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Just to be clear, if this does come out to be true, it's kind of a big deal, no?

I think the Democrats do have reasonable defense for their policies, trickle down tax code is not working. There are plenty of aspects to the Affordable care act that republicans suggested and liked until it became "Obamacare."
 
westnob said:
Just to be clear, if this does come out to be true, it's kind of a big deal, no?

I think the Democrats do have reasonable defense for their policies, trickle down tax code is not working. There are plenty of aspects to the Affordable care act that republicans suggested and liked until it became "Obamacare."
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You seem to be hanging your hat on a lot of "ifs", but that's just me.

And if the Democrats have a reasonable defense for their policies, why aren't they promoting them?

I wonder exactly how these policies are somehow superior. It seems to me those awful "trickle-down" tax policies led to 4% unemployment and deficits 1/10th the size of the current ones. George W. Bush was no small government conservative. Making him the poster child for how fans of limiited government would behave would be like the Women's Temperance Union having Charlie Sheen as their spokesperson.
 
maxiep said:
You seem to be hanging your hat on a lot of "ifs", but that's just me.

And if the Democrats have a reasonable defense for their policies, why aren't they promoting them?

I wonder exactly how these policies are somehow superior. It seems to me those awful "trickle-down" tax policies led to 4% unemployment and deficits 1/10th the size of the current ones. George W. Bush was no small government conservative. Making him the poster child for how fans of limiited government would behave would be like the Women's Temperance Union having Charlie Sheen as their spokesperson.
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But the "bush tax cuts" are still in place no?

And yes, I often lose arguments on this subject with you and BlazerBoy which is why I hate having them.
 
maxiep said:
LOL. God, I can't believe the Democrats have gotten this desperate this early.
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To be fair, a lot of republicans are still trying to start lawsuits over Obama's birth certificate.

Oh, and the republican in Alaska starting lawsuit, that was quickly thrown out, saying that Obama is not eligible because he's "negro" and that goes against the 10 commandments :lol:
 
westnob said:
Like there aren't this many batshit crazy ideas about Obama floating around.
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It is not just that this is a "batshit crazy" idea, which it is, it is that it was all laid out by the media several times including Fortune, Washington Post and a book about Romney by Boston Globe reporters.

For Dems (and their media allies) to be bringing up something with no new information and no substance is to engage purely in shit throwing to attempt to smear. "Oh yeah, that Romney, he is one of those get away with anything you can vuture bad business dudes."

We have looked at this issue before, back in January, and thought we had settled it.
But now the Boston Globe has raised the issue again. The story seems to hinge on a quote from a former Securities and Exchange Commission member, which would have more credibility if the Globe had disclosed she was a regular contributor to Democrats. (Interestingly, “The Real Romney,” a book on the former Massachusetts governor, by Boston Globe reporters, states clearly that he left Bain when he went to run the Olympics and details the turmoil that ensued when he suddenly quit, nearly breaking up the partnership)​
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ure-from-bain/2012/07/12/gJQAASzUfW_blog.html
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Fortune ​
obtained the offering documents
for a Bain Capital Fund circulating in June 2000, as well as a fund in 2001. None of the documents show that Romney was listed as being among the “key investment professionals.” As Fortune put it, “the contemporaneous Bain documents show that Romney was indeed telling the truth about no longer having operational input at Bain -- which, one should note, is different from no longer having legal or financial ties to the firm.”​
 
maxiep said:
George W. Bush was no small government conservative. Making him the poster child for how fans of limiited government would behave would be like the Women's Temperance Union having Charlie Sheen as their spokesperson.
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True, but since there's no such thing as an incumbent Republican who truly believes in limited government, he'll have to do.
 
maxiep said:
LOL. God, I can't believe the Democrats have gotten this desperate this early.
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If it's desperate to want to keep felons out of the white house, then I'd guess most Real Americans are desperate by your definition.
 
Masbee said:
It is not just that this is a "batshit crazy" idea, which it is, it is that it was all laid out by the media several times including Fortune, Washington Post and a book about Romney by Boston Globe reporters.

For Dems (and their media allies) to be bringing up something with no new information and no substance is to engage purely in shit throwing to attempt to smear. "Oh yeah, that Romney, he is one of those get away with anything you can vuture bad business dudes."

We have looked at this issue before, back in January, and thought we had settled it.
But now the Boston Globe has raised the issue again. The story seems to hinge on a quote from a former Securities and Exchange Commission member, which would have more credibility if the Globe had disclosed she was a regular contributor to Democrats. (Interestingly, “The Real Romney,” a book on the former Massachusetts governor, by Boston Globe reporters, states clearly that he left Bain when he went to run the Olympics and details the turmoil that ensued when he suddenly quit, nearly breaking up the partnership)​
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ure-from-bain/2012/07/12/gJQAASzUfW_blog.html
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Fortune ​
obtained the offering documents
for a Bain Capital Fund circulating in June 2000, as well as a fund in 2001. None of the documents show that Romney was listed as being among the “key investment professionals.” As Fortune put it, “the contemporaneous Bain documents show that Romney was indeed telling the truth about no longer having operational input at Bain -- which, one should note, is different from no longer having legal or financial ties to the firm.”​
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LOL @ Fortune ragazine as an unbiased source.
 
Masbee said:
I link to Washington Post and Fortune.

You link to a goofy blog.

And you LOL at me.

That says a lot right there.
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It speaks volumes, as a matter of fact.

I listen to Real Americans, while you listen to the 1%ers' PR department.
 
If Obama had committed a felony, and Democrats used the Romney defenses in this thread (smear, doesn't concern policies, etc.), you Republicans would be tearing into Democrats for the hypocrisy you are showing here.
 
maxiep said:
I'm not defending the Republicans. I'm simply saying that the Democrats aren't running on their record. Do you disagree?
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Changing the subject may work on this board, but diversionary tactics won't work at Romney's trial after he loses the election.
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Well, that's it for this foray onto the off-topic board. I check it about every couple of weeks.
 
westnob said:
But the "bush tax cuts" are still in place no?

And yes, I often lose arguments on this subject with you and BlazerBoy which is why I hate having them.
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Think of all the jobs saved by those tax cuts!

If ObamaLogic works on you democrats, think about that! ;)
 
He's guilty of being Obama-ish and jingoist.

That's probably far more offensive.
 
You can't make this shit up: http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romneys-bain-years-new-evidence-same-conclusion/

Kessler notes (among other things) that Romney’s time at the Olympics was the subject of hearings before the Massachusetts Ballot Law Commission in 2002, when Democrats sought and failed to disqualify Romney as a candidate for governor on grounds that he had been living in Utah.

After holding hearings for three days, during which Romney testified, the bipartisan ballot panel unanimously adopted “findings of fact” that said Romney was employed in Massachusetts “until 1999” when he left for Utah.


Ballot Law Commission, June 25, 2002: On or about February 11, 1999, the Respondent [Romney] became an employee of the Salt Lake Organizing Committee for a fixed term of three years. While so employed, the Respondent worked, on average, over 12 hours per day, 6 days per week.
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So, in 2002, the Democrats tried to argue that Mitt Romney was so busy working on the Olympics from 1999-2002, that he spent so little time in Massachusetts, that he shouldn't be allowed to be on the ballot, but in 2012 he was deeply involved running Bain day-to-day during that same period? Hilarious.
 
I fail to see the humor in Romney continually lying under oath, but then I'm not a Republican.
 
To be honest, even if he is convicted of this I don't think Americans will care much. It seems kind of convoluted.
 
Zybot said:
To be honest, even if he is convicted of this I don't think Americans will care much. It seems kind of convoluted.
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honest question... would being a convicted felon disqualify someone for the office of POTUS?

of course if Romney is telling the truth he could settle matters in 2 seconds if he would just release his tax returns like every other candidate running for POTUS has done for decades. 4 years ago McCain released more then 20 years of tax returns. Even though Mitt's father George pioneered this practice of disclosure of finances among national candidates, Mitt is saying we only get one year and stop asking for more as it's none of our business. It's like someone is trying to sell you a car but won't let you look under the hood or take it for a test drive.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...his-tax-returns-would-ko-shot-at-white-house/

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
honest question... would being a convicted felon disqualify someone for the office of POTUS?

of course if Romney is telling the truth he could settle matters in 2 seconds if he would just release his tax returns like every other candidate running for POTUS has done for decades. 4 years ago McCain released more then 20 years of tax returns. Even though his father George pioneered this practice of disclosure of finances among national candidates, Mitt is saying we only get one year and stop asking for more as it's none of our business. It's like someone is trying to sell you a car but won't let you look under the hood or take it for a test drive.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...his-tax-returns-would-ko-shot-at-white-house/

STOMP
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Two questions. First, do you really think Romney posting his tax returns would "settle" anything? Please.

Second, what does his tax returns have to do with his ownership position in Bain Capital? Do you know what happened to Bain after he left to run the Olympics? The place had a huge power struggle. I had friends who were there. That place ran like a Swiss watch under Romney; it was chaos for four years after he left. If he were managing the firm, as has been alleged, the transition would have been smoother.

Again, either he was running the firm or he wasn't. In 2002, the Democrats tried to disqualify him from the MA ballot because they thought he was living full time in Utah running the Olympics. In 2012, suddenly he's the mastermind of Bain, both saving the SLC Olympics and making the day-to-day decisions of a portfolio of companies under Bain Capital. Hell, if that's true, he should be President, because he'd be the greatest manager ever.

It's a bullshit issue. If you want to accuse him of a felony, charge him. Eric Holder has the resources. Something tells me, however, this issue is just a distraction. Hell, the Obama Administration doesn't even know the difference between outsourcing and offshoring. Their ignorance of the private sector speaks volumes.
 
STOMP said:
honest question... would being a convicted felon disqualify someone for the office of POTUS?

of course if Romney is telling the truth he could settle matters in 2 seconds if he would just release his tax returns like every other candidate running for POTUS has done for decades. 4 years ago McCain released more then 20 years of tax returns. Even though Mitt's father George pioneered this practice of disclosure of finances among national candidates, Mitt is saying we only get one year and stop asking for more as it's none of our business. It's like someone is trying to sell you a car but won't let you look under the hood or take it for a test drive.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...his-tax-returns-would-ko-shot-at-white-house/

STOMP
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You mean a crime like perjury? Americans really didn't care about it when Clinton was president.

Edit: To be more precise, I'm not saying they shouldn't care. I just don't think they will.
 
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