Roy #1 on SportsCenter's Top 10
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Here's the Roy game-winner, with home town call:
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Wow, #2 is in no way superior to Roy's shot, highlight wise.
And #1 wasn't all that either.
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Completely agree, WTF a Butler jumper is ahead of Roy's winner?
And Wade's dunk wasn't anything that great
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Roy's buzzer beater was definitely better. With Roy's shot, it was either make the shot or lose the game. Butler's shot was make the shot or go to overtime.
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I sense some bad feelings between Roy and Rudy, mostly from Roy's side towards Rudy. Maybe it's just the way that last video was cut off but I've also seen it several times during games. Sometimes, Roy doesn't pass to Rudy when he's wide-open and instead of a 50% chance of a 3 going in (when Rudy is free he usually nails it) the offense gets stuck and often it results in a turnover. There been times when it was really obvious, like "yeah, I can give you the ball, but it's MY team" and I don't like it.
At first, I though Roy is trying to get into Rudy's head in a good way, maybe urge him to do more than just stand behind the arc, maybe more like "you can do better than this and then I'll give you the ball" but lately, it just seems personal.
One of the biggest things I always loved about Roy was his unselfishness. He's the best on our team in directing the offense, better than Blake, Rudy, Bayless and even Sergio. I don't want him to inject ego-issues into his decision making and if this trend continue, we may have to show him the way out.
At first, I though Roy is trying to get into Rudy's head in a good way, maybe urge him to do more than just stand behind the arc, maybe more like "you can do better than this and then I'll give you the ball" but lately, it just seems personal.
One of the biggest things I always loved about Roy was his unselfishness. He's the best on our team in directing the offense, better than Blake, Rudy, Bayless and even Sergio. I don't want him to inject ego-issues into his decision making and if this trend continue, we may have to show him the way out.
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Rudy doesn't make the greatest decisions. I think Roy knows that.
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Wow, I think that is just in your mind. That's so anti Roy. Though how Rudy has been playing I wouldn't blame him for not passing to him. He hasn't been hitting open 3s at a 50% rate since early in the season if then. Also if any one was shown the way out it would be Rudy, not Roy. That's unbelievable! Ya, lets get rid of our lone allstar.
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Plus, Butler's shot was very bad team beats bad team as opposed to Western
play-off team beats Eastern play-off contender.
The NBA.com people are a joke.
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This is sort of a damned-if-he-does but damned-if-he-doesn't kind of thing.
Roy deferred to several players at UW, including Nate Robinson. He's been an effective scorer but a distributor, too, in his first couple of years.
Very few players--and almost no shooting guards--are capable of be great without having a killer attitude on offense. Very few superstars don't want to take the last shot or get to the hoop and score or draw a foul when the team really needs points.
Roy is becoming--or has become--an alpha player. It's his team. He'll shoot when he can and when he thinks it's best for the team.
I don't see this as a negative, and I don't see it as some sort of run-away ego. I just see it as an evolution of a player taking a step from lottery pick to all-star to potential all-NBA level.
Do I wish he'd pass to Oden more? Absolutely. Do I think he's smart enough to be willing to when Oden (or Rudy, or whomever) is a better player? Totally.
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I agree that Roy has become our alpha-player, I'm even willing to suffer through some frustrating Roy-first moves when he's trying to re-assert himself, in order to make the other team's defense worry about him but it HAS to be for the benefit of the team. You rarely need your alpha-player to score 52 in order to win, that was true against PHX and it could be true once, maybe twice a year...
What makes an alpha-player a good alpha-player (every alpha-player is a good player) is the ability to make his teammates better, this is what brings championship. Roy has that ability basketball-wise but he must find a way to leave personal-issues off the court. You know what, I don't even want him to think "Oh, It's Rudy that's open, he's a good shooter I'll pass it to him" I want him to be totally player-blind in that regard. You see a red&black jersey open on the 3-point line, you pass to him, doesn't matter if it's Rudy or Outlaw or even Bayless, when you do that regularly, play smart, play right and play team, you end up winning, you don't make every shot but you usually win.
What makes an alpha-player a good alpha-player (every alpha-player is a good player) is the ability to make his teammates better, this is what brings championship. Roy has that ability basketball-wise but he must find a way to leave personal-issues off the court. You know what, I don't even want him to think "Oh, It's Rudy that's open, he's a good shooter I'll pass it to him" I want him to be totally player-blind in that regard. You see a red&black jersey open on the 3-point line, you pass to him, doesn't matter if it's Rudy or Outlaw or even Bayless, when you do that regularly, play smart, play right and play team, you end up winning, you don't make every shot but you usually win.
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That doesn't make any sense, IMO. I want the players on my team to be good decision-makers, which means knowing their teammates' strengths and factoring that in. If Roy has Sergio open at the three-point line, but Aldridge singled up in his favourite spot on the floor, I want him to recognize that Sergio shooting the three isn't the best scoring option in that situation.
As for your theories about Roy having personal issues with Rudy that effect how he plays with Rudy...sure, that would be bad, but it seems like rather random speculation to me.
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Rudy's a rookie, a streak shooter (lately he's been especially bad) and Brandon is the undisputed leader and all-star on this team. I think the biggest evolution in Brandon's game is that he is going out and getting his when appropriate, while still distributing at a high rate.
I think you are inferring a whole helluva lot based on some pretty thin evidence that there is anything personal between Roy and Rudy, but if there is a "problem" (which I find highly suspect) then there is only one player who is going to be shown the door and that is Rudy, not Brandon.
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That's a very good question! Back in Bristol they just have a room full of DVR's or servers recording the game. It went out in HD. I think it is laziness on there part to not find the HD signal. Shoot, KGW, KOIN and KATU a lot of the times don't show HD hi's!
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weird. I notice a lot of other teams with local HD being shown. Call up those bastards in Bristol and let em' know we've got HD here in the PNW!
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I don't believe there's any ill will between Rudy and Roy. They seem to get along- Roy said he would be willing to throw passes for Rudy's dunks for the Dunk Contest; Sergio said he would not.
Are you basing your hypothesis on just Roy not passing to an open Rudy some of the time? Because I remember more than a couple times when Roy did find Rudy for open 3s this season. As for why Roy would not pass to Rudy for an open 3 the other times, I think Roy and Nate prefers that our team not settle for 3s all the time, so Brandon takes it to the basket to get an easy bucket or draw some fouls (getting the other team in foul trouble).
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If you're right and Roy and Rudy don't have any real issues than It's all good.
About Minstrel's response - yes, if you're standing at the top of the arc like a PG and thinking which way to go or what play to call it's better to have Aldridge shoot inside than Sergio take a 3 but if the ball is already moving and players are running I don't want Roy (or anyone else) to see that the player that's suddenly wide open isn't a good shooter or is going through a slump or is someone he doesn't like and bring everything to a stop. The ball needs to keep moving and if the shot is good enough, even someone who has less % needs to take it.
Matt Bonner said that Greg Popovich told him "if you're open and you don't take the shot you're going to the bench". Matt Bonner.
I believe that it's a big part of basketball-karma: don't deny an open shooter the ball. ESPECIALLY not if it's because you dislike him. What was that guy's name we brought from San-Antonio, damn it, what was his name. He was hitting 3's left-and-right when in SA because he was open and got the ball not because he was that amazing a shooter. Roger Mason is doing a lot of the same thing this year after playing overseas (where he wasn't dominating, BTW) because when he's open, he gets the ball, he nails one, and another one, and he gets confidence. I think last year, Roy and the Blazers were able to make Jones a better 3-point shooter than he really is the same way.
About Minstrel's response - yes, if you're standing at the top of the arc like a PG and thinking which way to go or what play to call it's better to have Aldridge shoot inside than Sergio take a 3 but if the ball is already moving and players are running I don't want Roy (or anyone else) to see that the player that's suddenly wide open isn't a good shooter or is going through a slump or is someone he doesn't like and bring everything to a stop. The ball needs to keep moving and if the shot is good enough, even someone who has less % needs to take it.
Matt Bonner said that Greg Popovich told him "if you're open and you don't take the shot you're going to the bench". Matt Bonner.
I believe that it's a big part of basketball-karma: don't deny an open shooter the ball. ESPECIALLY not if it's because you dislike him. What was that guy's name we brought from San-Antonio, damn it, what was his name. He was hitting 3's left-and-right when in SA because he was open and got the ball not because he was that amazing a shooter. Roger Mason is doing a lot of the same thing this year after playing overseas (where he wasn't dominating, BTW) because when he's open, he gets the ball, he nails one, and another one, and he gets confidence. I think last year, Roy and the Blazers were able to make Jones a better 3-point shooter than he really is the same way.
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Interesting. I didn't see Roy "snub" Fernandez after his big shot, but my girlfriend did. She asked me if there was any tension on the team, and I said I didn't think so. Now that you've pointed it out, I'm wondering if she was right.
Please tell me exactly what happened after Roy made the game winner, since I didn't see it. Was Rudy attempting to give him a high five, and Roy just ignored him?
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Roy always looks off in the crowd after a shot like that without high fiving anyone, that's kind of his sig after a clutch shot like that. Unless he's snubbing the whole team I don't think there's anything to that.