Roy Absent during National Anthem (MERGED)

[The Sebastian Express]

Well, I would have to say that JC won this round. It's the hottest topic, it spawned 22 pages, and god only knows how much hate mail. That guy is a fucking genius when it comes to riling up a fan base.

To be fair I believe most of this thread is a combination of horrified responses and mocking towards Shooter's "his people" comment.

 

[DUB]

You're all getting pretty fired up over an English drinking song.

[video=youtube;lRwAoneiDMc]

 

[Shooter]

I liked that one the best lol

Yeah, too bad Roy never saw it.

 

[KingSpeed]

I liked that one the best lol

Thanks Vanilla.

 

[Minstrel]

Yeah, too bad Roy never saw it.

How do you know? He has access to YouTube also.

 

[KingSpeed]

I haven't been reading this thread. Should I go back and read it all? Was there a big fight?

 

[THE HCP]

I haven't been reading this thread. Should I go back and read it all? Was there a big fight?

BEST THREAD EVER! NO JOKE!

 

[Shooter]

How do you know? He has access to YouTube also.

Good point!!! Watching the national anthem later, on YouTube, is just the same as standing at attention for it during the game! Maybe the whole team should stay in the locker room during the national anthem and watch it later on YouTube!! And maybe everyone in the stands should tell jokes and eat popcorn. Maybe Paul Allen should stand on court and do a juggling act, and the cheerleaders should be running around doing backflips, and the ball boys should be shooting hoops at each end of the court!

Yeah, that's the ticket. That would be the ultimate in respect for our national anthem!!!

 

[julius]

Why is Brandon held to a higher standard than fans are, who are in the concourse? Or the camera crew who keep filming or walking around?

This fabricated outrage is pointless. It's not a law that you have to do it, nor does it mean it's disrespect if you don't do it in the same manner you do it.

Your way is not the only way to show respect or honor the flag/country.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Good point!!! Watching the national anthem later, on YouTube, is just the same as standing at attention for it during the game! Maybe the whole team should stay in the locker room during the national anthem and watch it later on YouTube!! And maybe everyone in the stands should tell jokes and eat popcorn. Maybe Paul Allen should stand on court and do a juggling act, and the cheerleaders should be running around doing backflips, and the ball boys should be shooting hoops at each end of the court!

Yeah, that's the ticket. That would be the ultimate in respect for our national anthem!!!

I think that every TV game should play the Anthem, and it should be mandatory to get the whole family in front of the TV and stand at attention. Anyone who does not should be be locked up in the Gulag.

 

[Shooter]

Why is Brandon held to a higher standard than fans are, who are in the concourse? Or the camera crew who keep filming or walking around?

My God, this is what passes for logic around here? I feel like I'm dealing with a five-year-old.

People "on stage" are always held to a higher standard than those in the audience. If you go to an Obama speech, you can walk out anytime you want to take a piss. Obama, on the other hand, can't suddenly stop his speech to go take a piss.

I suppose the guys filming the performance of the national anthem could put their cameras down and stand at attention, too, but then millions of people watching the game wouldn't get to see what was happening on the court.

Surely, you're not serious about any of this. You're just being stupid to pass the time, right?

 

[Sedatedfork]

My God, this is what passes for logic around here? I feel like I'm dealing with a five-year-old.

People "on stage" are always held to a higher standard than those in the audience. If you go to an Obama speech, you can walk out anytime you want to take a piss. Obama, on the other hand, can't suddenly stop his speech to go take a piss.

I suppose the guys filming the performance of the national anthem could put their cameras down and stand at attention, too, but then millions of people watching the game wouldn't get to see what was happening on the court.

Surely, you're not serious about any of this. You're just being stupid to pass the time, right?

Are paraplegics terrorists too? They don't stand for the national anthem.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Are paraplegics terrorists too? They don't stand for the national anthem.

They're nihilists; they don't stand for much of anything.

repped.

 

[BBert]

I think that every TV game should play the Anthem, and it should be mandatory to get the whole family in front of the TV and stand at attention. Anyone who does not should be be locked up in the Gulag.

I'm sorry. You don't get to make the rules on proper behavior. Only Shooter does.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I'm sorry. You don't get to make the rules on proper behavior. Only Shooter does.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I imagine all of his posts being read by Shooter McGavin.

 

[julius]

Surely, you're not serious about any of this. You're just being stupid to pass the time, right?

says the man who implied that Roy and "his people", and then wondered why people might've taken it wrong.

Do I need to post the pot calling the kettle black picture again? Because I think most people here have caught onto your gimmick, and at this point mock you more than even try to participate in a conversation with you.

Plus, you didn't answer my question about why Brandon is held to a higher standard than anyone else, but instead brought up something that had no connection to what I was talking about.

Brandon Roy is not the President of the United States, and obviously 10 seconds before the thread was created you had NO idea this was happening. So, again, why is it important now?

This isn't like Brandon is killing people, raping babies, doing illegal drugs, crapping on a bible, being a traitor, or about 90 million other things far worse than not standing with his teammates during the NA.

 

[Sedatedfork]

He can pray 24 hours a day. He doesn't have to do it during the national anthem.

Now you are trying to regulate when he can pray?!?!? Is it okay if he prays during the national anthem, but stands for the national anthem and just doesn't pay attention?

By the way: Santa >>> God. At least when I asked Santa for stuff, I got it 60 to 70% of the time. God was only able to deliver at a clip of about 40%. Santa's PER is like 25. God's had a much longer career, his PER sucks, but God seems to have a great +/-!

 

[barfo]

My God, this is what passes for logic around here? I feel like I'm dealing with a five-year-old.

People "on stage" are always held to a higher standard than those in the audience. If you go to an Obama speech, you can walk out anytime you want to take a piss. Obama, on the other hand, can't suddenly stop his speech to go take a piss.

Doesn't need to. The podium has a urinal built in. Been that way since Eisenhower, who had a weak bladder.

I suppose the guys filming the performance of the national anthem could put their cameras down and stand at attention, too, but then millions of people watching the game wouldn't get to see what was happening on the court.

Which is, nothing at all.
Besides, don't most broadcasts go to commercial during the anthem? Perhaps we'd better question the patriotism of the broadcasters.

barfo

 

[Shooter]

Are paraplegics terrorists too? They don't stand for the national anthem.

Yes, paraplegics are terrorrists. Every single one of them.

Thank you for your serious contribution to this discussion.

 

[Shooter]

Plus, you didn't answer my question about why Brandon is held to a higher standard than anyone else . . .

He isn't.

He is held to the exact same standard that all the other NBA players are. And every other NBA player except Roy apparently understands this, because they all line up respectfully for the national anthem.

Are you proposing that none of the players should stand for the national anthem? What would you like them to do--wander around the court while it's being performed, or shoot baskets, or talk on their cell phones?? I suppose all of those things would be "appropriate" in a country where we are all allowed to do what we want to . . .

 

[Minstrel]

Are you proposing that none of the players should stand for the national anthem? What would you like them to do--wander around the court while it's being performed, or shoot baskets, or talk on their cell phones?? I suppose all of those things would be "appropriate" in a country where we are all allowed to do what we want to . . .

How about this shocking idea: no national anthems before games. They're not exactly state functions (until Obama nationalizes the NBA, NFL and MLB, of course!).

Then players can pray or wander about or watch YouTube...whatever gets them ready to play basketball.

Of course, not being present during the national anthem works too. It's probably bad form to shoot baskets or chat during the anthem, if you're there, but being elsewhere by one's self seems fine to me.

 

[PapaG]

I just read The Road to Woodstock by Michael Lang. An absolute must for any "hippie". Thank me later for the read.

 

[STOMP]

Thank you for your serious contribution to this discussion.

and thank you for yours... as usual it's provided laughs for the rest of us to enjoy

STOMP

 

[Shooter]

Of course, not being present during the national anthem works too. It's probably bad form to shoot baskets or chat during the anthem, if you're there, but being elsewhere by one's self seems fine to me.

So you're fine with ALL of the players standing in the tunnel during the national anthem?

 

[julius]

So you're fine with ALL of the players standing in the tunnel during the national anthem?

If Minneapolistrel is not willing to say, I am. I don't know why they're held to a higher standard than the rest of us are. I can leave my seat and take a crap if I need to, or I can stand in the concourse, or off in a corner by myself and have a moment of prayer or solitude.

Is it because he makes a lot of money? I wasn't aware that that changed your rights.

 

[Minstrel]

So you're fine with ALL of the players standing in the tunnel during the national anthem?

Yup. If you're out there, be polite and remain stationary and quiet. But there's no need to be out there if you'd rather just think, meditate, pray or whatever else in the locker room.

 

[julius]

Yup. If you're out there, be polite and remain stationary and quiet. But there's no need to be out there if you'd rather just think, meditate, pray or whatever else in the locker room.

I'm beginning to doubt that you actually love American music (let alone, that being your location). You obviously hate everything to do with America, you robot.

 

[Shooter]

If Minneapolistrel is not willing to say, I am. I don't know why they're held to a higher standard than the rest of us are. I can leave my seat and take a crap if I need to, or I can stand in the concourse, or off in a corner by myself and have a moment of prayer or solitude.

It's really very simple. Roy and the other Blazers are "performers," and part of their job is standing at attention during the playing of the national anthem. There's no law that says this must be done, but it's a tradition in the NBA, and most Americans are pretty happy with it.

You and Joe Schmo, on the other hand, are part of the "audience." No one is looking at you--they're all looking at the court. You are not being paid to perform, you are not on stage, and thus you don't have the burden of being "showcased" like the players are. It's nice if you stand at attention, as well, but if you don't, very few people will notice.

There is always a different set of expectations for "performers" and "audience members." You can go out and take a crap anytime you want during the opera, too, but the performers on stage don't have the same freedom you do. Their first duty is to carry out their performance on stage, whatever that may be.

 

[Shooter]

Yup. If you're out there, be polite and remain stationary and quiet. But there's no need to be out there if you'd rather just think, meditate, pray or whatever else in the locker room.

I suspect that most fans would find it very odd if ALL of the players on both teams chose not to pay their respects to the flag and the national anthem . . . and just hung out in the locker room during this time.