Roy admits hes out of sorts... not gelling well

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HispanicCausinPanic said:
LA,BROY and the rest of the guys need to realize and so do we that they might not put up huge numbers this season. With as much talent as we have, the stats will be spread out a bit. As long as we are winning, they will be fine.
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This is what the Championship team did. Walton might only get 16-18 pts on one night and the next it might be Luke with 23 or whom ever. They always exploited the mismatches and ran as often as they could. That team was as unselfish as they come.

My guess is that it will take a month or so into the season before they begin to click on all cylinders.
 
Have to keep in mind that McMillan is trying a lot of different lineups. He's switching guys in and out. It's hard to build chemistry like that. It takes time. Once he's figured out his rotation, and he has guys where he wants them, we will see guys begin to get comfortable, and hopefully build some chemistry. Obviously it would be easier to just start Roy, Blake, Batum, Aldridge, and Joel, but that isn't necessarily the best lineup we can put on the floor.
 
gatorpops said:
This is what the Championship team did. Walton might only get 16-18 pts on one night and the next it might be Luke with 23 or whom ever. They always exploited the mismatches and ran as often as they could. That team was as unselfish as they come.

My guess is that it will take a month or so into the season before they begin to click on all cylinders.
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Well said. This team will succeed by having multiple threats that on any given night can lead the team. The opposing team will not have the ability to focus in on one or two guys.
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
Well said. This team will succeed by having multiple threats that on any given night can lead the team. The opposing team will not have the ability to focus in on one or two guys.
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No, that doesn't sound like a good idea. Let's trade our talent for scrubs that would be content with sitting on the bench and would make great cheerleaders. We should only be about 3 deep. That's how championship teams are built. :pokecrap:
 
BlazersBlood said:
No, that doesn't sound like a good idea. Let's trade our talent for scrubs that would be content with sitting on the bench and would make great cheerleaders. We should only be about 3 deep. That's how championship teams are built. :pokecrap:
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Let's be realistic though, it's not good to be 2-3 deep at every position with guys who can and probably should start in the NBA. Historically it hasn't worked out well. Look at the teams that have won over the last few years, and you see 2-3 stars and some role players. Robert Horry wasn't All-Star material. Derek Fisher wasn't going to drop 20 points per night. Bruce Bowen was defensive player of the year, but he wasn't a guy that a defense had to plan for.

This team needs three guys who can dominate, and the rest should be complimentary players who know what it takes to win. That's the recipe for championships.
 
Turning Marty, Travis, and Jerryd into Battier and Landry would solve quite a few problems.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Turning Marty, Travis, and Jerryd into Battier and Landry would solve quite a few problems.
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Hmmm... I wouldn't hate that, but if KP is going to make a move he needs to make a move now, before the season starts, so the guys could still adjust and build some cohesion.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Turning Marty, Travis, and Jerryd into Battier and Landry would solve quite a few problems.
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I'd settle for Jerryd, Blake and Travis for Kyle Lowry and Landry. (Contracts permitting of course)
 
Oddly enough, even with my intense hatred for Blake's game, I realize his three pt. shot might be very useful in the future.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I was thinking that too. I really liked Lowry during the playoffs. The guy is tough.
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He plays defense, he's a pretty good passer and he drives a little bit, he can't shoot a lick from outside of course, but I think this team has enough perimeter players as it is.

Beyond that you have to wonder if Memphis might be persuaded to trade Conley and some other throw-in for some combination of 3 Blazers role players :dunno: (doubtful)
 
Nikolokolus said:
He plays defense, he's a pretty good passer and he drives a little bit, he can't shoot a lick from outside of course, but I think this team has enough perimeter players as it is.

Beyond that you have to wonder if Memphis might be persuaded to trade Conley and some other throw-in for some combination of 3 Blazers role players :dunno: (doubtful)
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I would love to get Battier and Lowry on this team though.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygcutae

Miller/Blake/Lowry
Roy/Rudy
Battier/Batum
Aldridge/Howard
Oden/Przybilla

I think Howard has enough in the tanks to be the primary backup at the four. Lowry is the third stringer until next season, when Blake leaves for free agency.
 
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjj9dul

Consolidation trade! :)

Miller/Blake
Roy/Webster
Johnson/Batum
Aldridge/Howard
Oden/Collins

Only reason why I threw Johnson's name out there is because he said he is going to opt out and become a free agent this summer. Maybe Atlanta would be scared of losing him..... Either way, I know it probably wouldn't happy.
 
Natebishop3 said:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjj9dul

Consolidation trade! :)

Miller/Blake
Roy/Webster
Johnson/Batum
Aldridge/Howard
Oden/Collins

Only reason why I threw Johnson's name out there is because he said he is going to opt out and become a free agent this summer. Maybe Atlanta would be scared of losing him..... Either way, I know it probably wouldn't happy.
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In principal, we don't really need a conventional "consolidation" trade, where we simply trade away more players than we get back. What we need is more role players who would demand few(er) shots than the guys we give away.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Let's be realistic though, it's not good to be 2-3 deep at every position with guys who can and probably should start in the NBA. Historically it hasn't worked out well. Look at the teams that have won over the last few years, and you see 2-3 stars and some role players. Robert Horry wasn't All-Star material. Derek Fisher wasn't going to drop 20 points per night. Bruce Bowen was defensive player of the year, but he wasn't a guy that a defense had to plan for.

This team needs three guys who can dominate, and the rest should be complimentary players who know what it takes to win. That's the recipe for championships.
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Who should "realistically start" on this team that isn't? Maybe Joel might get screwed, but other than that, Martell, Batum, Travis, Rudy, & Blake are all role players. Maybe some of those guys could start on bad teams, but on one of the top teams in the west, they don't deserve anything more than what they are getting now. They are all fringe starters. They aren't near the level that Roy, Aldridge, Oden, or Andre Miller are at. I don't really see the problem. As long as Nate gets the best players or combination of players on the floor and they get the most PT, that's all that matters.

Batum? He's a glue guy and his role will be to provide defense and make the open shot.

Webster? He hasn't proven ANYTHING yet. He's coming off an injury and he's been erratic his entire career.

Rudy? He's a dynamic player, but is he starter material? How is his defense and can he take the pounding for 82 games with heavy minutes? Right now he's a great 6th man.

Outlaw? All he provides is offense and he's a liability on defense and rebounding. He's a black hole on offense and if he's not hitting his pull up jumper, he's useless. He's still too one-dimensional to be a starter.

Blake? He's a great 3pt shooter and helps space the floor on offense. But he's unable to penetrate and break down a defense. He forces Roy to be the primary ball handler and that makes our offense predictable. When he's on, he should be on the floor, but when he's not, thank goodness we have Miller now.

None of the guys above are stars. They shouldn't be treated like one either. Roy, Aldridge, & an emerging Oden should be what is taken into account when deciding who fits best with them.
 
B-Roy said:
Not true. The Celtics have three players that take shots, and one (Rondo) that facilitates shots. The Blazers have 5 or 6 players that deserve shots and one (Miller) that facilitates shots.
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5 maximum if you want to include Rudy. Everyone else can suck it and be a role player. If they don't like it, bye.
 
Another "hot" quote from that Yahoo article:

I’m sitting on the baseline and I’m hearing fans in the audience say, ‘Sit with the team.’ I just got here. [The fan] said, ‘Sit with the team. Stop acting like that.’
“I was like, ‘Damn.’ They wouldn’t have said that if [the media] didn’t give a false impression. I never have had any problems with any fans. I socialize with fans at appearances and in public.”
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Nothing like making things harder than they need to be.

I think Dre is going to be fine on and off the court and I think Roy will find his groove sooner rather than later, but we are getting off to a bit of a rocky start this pre-season. At least no major injuries so far - knock on wood.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The biggest difference between this year and last year isn't Andre Miller. It's a healthy Greg Oden. Nate is trying to get Greg more involved in the offense, so it's throwing the starters off a bit. They were used to one thing, now they've added a couple more pieces and it's going to take some getting used to.
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. I actually think Roy's numbers may go down this year, simply because Oden is going to be more of an offensive force.
 
B-Roy said:
Not true. The Celtics have three players that take shots, and one (Rondo) that facilitates shots. The Blazers have 5 or 6 players that deserve shots and one (Miller) that facilitates shots.
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Yet Miller took more shots last night than anybody else except for LMA. :dunno:
 
Originally Posted by Natebishop3
I was thinking that too. I really liked Lowry during the playoffs. The guy is tough.
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Lowry had a PER of 10.5 in the playoffs and shot 33% from the field. :dunno:
 
RoyToy said:
5 maximum if you want to include Rudy. Everyone else can suck it and be a role player. If they don't like it, bye.
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Intense hatred for Outlaw doesn't mean he hasn't proven he's worthy of shots.
 
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