Roy is a max contract, what about LaMarcus?

[alex42083]

We all know Brandon is going to get the max offer, whether it be the three-year (fourth-year player option) deals that have been popular with LeBron, Wade, CP3 and Deron or the max six-year deals that can be given. That should be interesting in itself what way Brandon goes with that.

But what about LaMarcus? Is he a max contract type player now? And does it matter since cap space won't be an issue after this summer anyway? I'm wondering if Aldridge would feel disrespected somehow if he didn't get the max offer although right now, I wouldn't put him in that class quite yet. He could be down the line, but right now, I don't think he is in that elite player level yet.
I see him more in the $8-$10 million range, as Brandon would get the max, which CP3 and Deron signed for which were 4 years, $70 million last summer.

And hopefully these guys stay hungry with the big money payday now in front of them. July 1 will be an interesting date.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yes, he will get a max contract, simply because someone else would offer it to him. Name another power forward in the west, at his age, with his upside?

 

[alex42083]

Yes, he will get a max contract, simply because someone else would offer it to him. Name another power forward in the west, at his age, with his upside?

No one else can offer Aldridge a contract this summer. Only us I believe. He wouldn't be an RFA until after his fourth year on his rookie contract. But yeah, I guess in terms of where he'll be in a third year of a contract extension, he'd be worth it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Near 7 footers with his age, skillset, upside and proven level of production get maxed out ... if he doesn't get maxed then it means he's not in the long term plans.

 

[B-Roy]

Near 7 footers with his age, skillset, upside and proven level of production get maxed out ... if he doesn't get maxed then it means he's not in the long term plans.

+1. End of story.

 

[ehizzy3]

the real decision is gonna be oden

 

[andalusian]

Al Jefferson was not a max contract. It will be interesting to see if LMA gets more than Al Jeff.

 

[Tince]

I wonder if either of them (more importantly their agents) would be willing to take a minor pay cut to keep the teams salary situation as flexible as possible.

The Spurs are a great example of this. Duncan got a max contract as the leader of the team. Parker, a max contract player (if LMA is), took slightly less, and Manu fell in line right behind Parker. Both those guys could have made more money in the free agent market, but they took a little less. I don't know how that came about, but it's not like they took such a huge cut they feel like they're playing for free.

 

[Further]

I think that LMA will likely get max, but I would not be surprised if it is just a little less, like 10.5 mil start. But in the end, if LMA and agent decide to play hardball I think Paul Allen would certainly open his pockets and give max.

 

[Tince]

Who is LMA agent? Does he have a history of playing hard-ball?

 

[Sedatedfork]

Bynum didn't get a max deal. I think that Bynum's contract would be close to the market if he wants to sign next year.

 

[Natebishop3]

Bynum didn't get a max deal. I think that Bynum's contract would be close to the market if he wants to sign next year.

Bynum hasn't been able to stay healthy. Aside from the heart thing his rookie season, Aldridge has been pretty healthy, and I'd say far more consistent than Bynum.

 

[Deebag]

Is he better than Rashard Lewis?

 

[Tortimer]

Is he better than Rashard Lewis?

He is a lot better then Rashard Lewis and I think LMA will get a max contract or very very close.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

IMHO, I don't think either will get max contract. As "character guys" I think KP will convince them that it's in their best interest (and the team's) to take less. I certainly could be wrong, but that has been my guess for a while now.

Again, I'm not saying they're not worth max. contracts, just that they won't sign max. contracts.

 

[crowTrobot]

IMHO, I don't think either will get max contract. As "character guys" I think KP will convince them that it's in their best interest (and the team's) to take less. I certainly could be wrong, but that has been my guess for a while now.

Again, I'm not saying they're not worth max. contracts, just that they won't sign max. contracts.

would you like to put any money on roy not signing for max?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

would you like to put any money on roy not signing for max?

reread the post.

 

[Tince]

IMHO, I don't think either will get max contract. As "character guys" I think KP will convince them that it's in their best interest (and the team's) to take less. I certainly could be wrong, but that has been my guess for a while now.

Again, I'm not saying they're not worth max. contracts, just that they won't sign max. contracts.

That is exactly what I was thinking (see above). I don't think the challenge would be talking Roy and/or LMA to give up a couple million in a 60+ million dollar contract, except their agent is going to want to maximize his own cut and going to try and convince them they are being shorted. Obviously the agent works for the player and if both of them feel strongly towards the franchise they will take less money, but I doubt it will be clear cut.

If LMA holds out for max money, I wouldn't hold it against him in the least bit.

 

[Tince]

Is he better than Rashard Lewis?

Why are we using an overpaid player as the barometer? I think most agreed the day that contract was signed, Orlando overpaid to get Rashard. Plus the economic times have changed since then.

 

[Nikolokolus]

IMHO, I don't think either will get max contract. As "character guys" I think KP will convince them that it's in their best interest (and the team's) to take less. I certainly could be wrong, but that has been my guess for a while now.

Again, I'm not saying they're not worth max. contracts, just that they won't sign max. contracts.

I would seriously question their 'character' (or at least their intelligence) if they didn't want max deals. Now, when it's their third contract 5 years down the line and it comes down to keeping the team together or not I can see them maybe taking a little less than what they might otherwise be entitled to, but not when they are just coming off of rookie scale deals.

Let's put it this way, if you were a company's best employee and you absolutely gave them everything you had in you and you were coming up for a big raise and the boss asked you take less for "your own good", how would you react?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I would seriously question their 'character' (or at least their intelligence) if they didn't want max deals. Now, when it's their third contract 5 years down the line and it comes down to keeping the team together or not I can see them maybe taking a little less than what they might otherwise be entitled to, but not when they are just coming off of rookie scale deals.

Let's put it this way, if you were a company's best employee and you absolutely gave them everything you had in you and you were coming up for a big raise and the boss asked you take less for "your own good", how would you react?

1) If the company said that you should take 13 mil a year instead of 16 mil, I seriously would consider the smaller if they could convince me that there was a good reason to do that.

2) KP has already gotten Webster to sign a very reasonable contract.

3) Interesting dilemma, and I wasn't thinking of it when I posted, but our administration has asked that all employees where I work take a 4 and 1/2 % cut in salary, so that we wouldn't have to fire anyone, and I have agreed with this plan. Things are tough all over. Roy, in touch with his humble beginnings, probably understands that.

 

[maxiep]

I think Brandon is signed for the max, and LMA is signed for 85-90% of that. We hold some leverage as the new CBA is going to be B-R-U-T-A-L for new contracts. There will be fewer years and a lower escalator. Four years ago, LMA would have gotten the max, but then again, so did Andrei Kirilenko, Kenyon Martin and Pau Gasol. Those days are gone. LMA will get a Z-Bo level deal. It's certainly enough to keep the lights on in his house.

 

[andalusian]

Those days are gone. LMA will get a Z-Bo level deal. It's certainly enough to keep the lights on in his house.

Don't be silly. LMA runs so fast down the lane that he exceeds light-speed. He has no need for lights in his house - he needs something faster to keep him motivated to improve.

 

[crowTrobot]

reread the post.

reread mine. odds are roy will get max/year - probably 4 year extension with a player option on the 4th, similar to paul's deal.

 

[STOMP]

Who is LMA agent? Does he have a history of playing hard-ball?

Arn Tellum is LA's agent.

from the link...
In 2004, Mr. Tellem negotiated a 6-year, $86 million contract for Pau Gasol with the Memphis Grizzlies. In 2003, he negotiated a 7-year, $126 million contract for All-Star Jermaine O,Neal with the Indiana Pacers. Previously, in 2001, Mr. Tellem negotiated a maximum dollar contract for rising star Antawn Jamison. In 2000, Mr. Tellem engineered the trade of Tracy McGrady to the Orlando Magic and negotiated a 7-year, $93 million deal for the All-Star. On Draft Day 1996, Mr. Tellem was instrumental in the Los Angeles Lakers, trade for the draft rights to Kobe Bryant, laying the groundwork for the Lakers, NBA Championships in 2000, 2001 and 2002.

I have a lawyer friend who works for him

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[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

I really doubt it, especially with supposedly owners being more stringent with their pocket books. I don't think LaMarcus is a max guy. Not close to being one, either. I think the max should go to top tier level guys. Second-tier level guys who are very close to being top-tier (like Roy and Bosh) could also be deserving of max money, imo. I think LaMarcus is a third-tier level player as of right now. He's not an all-star, but he could be an all-star caliber player soon. Even if he does make the all-star team in his next season or two, I don't think he's a perennial all-star level player. And, those are the players that deserves to be maxed out.

Roy isn't top tier? I guess a recent Defensive player of the year's opinion doesn't mean as much as it used to... I mean, he's only a perinneal allstar who carried his team(with 4 rookies) for large portions of this season to the 2nd best record in the West in only his 3rd year...



I think (and hope) that LaMarcus will get the same contract that the Bulls gave Luol Deng, which was a very nice contract but not max. Anything more and we'll be overpaying him.

If you think that Luol Deng and LMA are even close in talent or upside, there really is no reasoning with you.

Irrelevant. Just because the West doesn't have a young PF with as much upside (debatable) doesn't make LaMarcus a max player. It could just mean that the young PF crop in the West sucks.

I think that Roy will get offered max, and LMA will get offered 85%-90% of that. These guys seem like they might agree to take less if it means bringing on a veteran talent to make that extra push though...

 

[blue32]

I'll take a max contract...

 

[STOMP]

I think that Roy will get offered max, and LMA will get offered 85%-90% of that. These guys seem like they might agree to take less if it means bringing on a veteran talent to make that extra push though...

whether or not they acquire another quality vet doesn't have much to do with the potential size of BR and LA's deals. Vet extensions are signed after the draft which is when much of the player movement takes place. It's also after Portland would have had to renounce Blake Travis Frye and Ruffin. Paul Allen can go as far over the salary cap as he choses to resign guys on the roster.

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