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Thanks dude good find.

There has been a lot of speculation on this board that Roy might be the first to try a "Tommy John" type of treatment in order to come back. Meniscus replacement and then playing on that meniscus would be exactly that.

Also I think this is important, because it says to me that the problem of Roy going into and out of the lineup over and the team can now get some consistency going in the lineups. Maybe get Joel back for that 2nd unit and then "add the gel".
 
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I think a meniscus transplant is in his future anyway, so might as well give it a try and see if he can play three more years on the knee. Hell, if you feel like recovery's a long time and there will be a lockout anyway, get both knees done. :ghoti:
 
Can't we just fax him an MRI from April?
 
Sounds like that reserves convinced Nate to let them run and gun a bit.
 
Any speculation on why they can't name the other team's doctor? Is it against the rules for one team's doctor to help another player?
 
RR7 said:
Any speculation on why they can't name the other team's doctor? Is it against the rules for one team's doctor to help another player?
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No it's not. In fact teams use other team doctors for 2nd evaluations all the time. So it's quite the opposite. The NBA has nothing to gain when the best players are on the floor playing rather than sitting on the sideline.
 
I wouldn't have thought so. Just seemed odd to not say oh, so and so from Houston, a top doctor, instead of a nameless guy. And yes, I am looking way too much into it, under the speculation that that doctor is looking for us as well as for his current employer.
 
RR7 said:
Any speculation on why they can't name the other team's doctor? Is it against the rules for one team's doctor to help another player?
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HIPPA
 
Mediocre Man said:
What did I say?
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You know how it is. Sometimes when you are beating a war drum a lot sooner or later people get sick of hearing it. I guess the fact that it was actually mentioned in the article, and should be a legimate topic for discussion is moot! I thought that tidbit about the bench and Nate meeting and having a positive result was a good thing. I also believe it backs up the fact that Nate and the team are still communicating well, where some writers had stated Nate had been tuned out weeks ago.
 
Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess. I'm certainly no surgeon and I'm relying on my limited medical knowledge from my time as a paramedic but the odds seem a little long that a meniscal transplant will work out minus complications, especially considering that Roy is looking to get back to a level of competitive sports that are going to put maximum stress on the transplanted body part. But it's worth a shot and probably beats the alternative of trying to hobble around for the next 4 years -- Worst case scenario is that he has it done now, rehabs through the lock-out, it doesn't work and he's probably forced to retire anyway.
 
Looks like Roy and the organization are finally coming to terms with the reality of the situation. It's only a matter of time before Roy goes under the knife for some procedure on the knee(s). I'd be shocked to see him to return this season.
 
hasoos said:
You know how it is. Sometimes when you are beating a war drum a lot sooner or later people get sick of hearing it. I guess the fact that it was actually mentioned in the article, and should be a legimate topic for discussion is moot! I thought that tidbit about the bench and Nate meeting and having a positive result was a good thing. I also believe it backs up the fact that Nate and the team are still communicating well, where some writers had stated Nate had been tuned out weeks ago.
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I don't have any problem with the topic, which is that the second unit wanted to meet with Nate to discuss how they could be more effective. It's great that Rudy and the other guys now are on the same page. The thing I that elicited my response, and admittedly this probably wasn't the best thread to put it into, was that MM assumes that the point of the meeting was that players had to convince Nate to play uptempo. I get that he detests Nate's coaching, but is it really inconceivable that Nate has been the instigator of the change to the uptempo style as an adjustment to the personnel he now has and that the bench players just wanted to get together with him to clarify a few things about their new offense? It just gets to be a grind to have so many threads hijacked into constant Nate-bashing. I mean, the team is playing more the way that you've been advocating for years so shut up an enjoy it for Pete's sake. [/end rant]
 
I hope he goes with the red and black synthetic meniscus, that would be rad!
 
craigehlo said:
Looks like Roy and the organization are finally coming to terms with the reality of the situation. It's only a matter of time before Roy goes under the knife for some procedure on the knee(s). I'd be shocked to see him to return this season.
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I wonder if it's this news that elicited the "sit for the rest of the season" ticker on NBATV.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I wonder if it's this news that elicited the "sit for the rest of the season" ticker on NBATV.
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I'd say that Cho's initial comment that the team and Brandon would be meeting with other experts and considering all of their options is playing out. Obviously, if Roy and his doctors decide to do something in the way of surgery, he's done for the year. OTOH, if they rule it out as either not likely to solve the problem or and being too risky for a guy still who still wants to play pro ball, then it probably becomes a situation where they try to manage the knees and get a bit out of him the rest of the year.
 
e_blazer said:
I don't have any problem with the topic, which is that the second unit wanted to meet with Nate to discuss how they could be more effective. It's great that Rudy and the other guys now are on the same page. The thing I that elicited my response, and admittedly this probably wasn't the best thread to put it into, was that MM assumes that the point of the meeting was that players had to convince Nate to play uptempo. I get that he detests Nate's coaching, but is it really inconceivable that Nate has been the instigator of the change to the uptempo style as an adjustment to the personnel he now has and that the bench players just wanted to get together with him to clarify a few things about their new offense? It just gets to be a grind to have so many threads hijacked into constant Nate-bashing. I mean, the team is playing more the way that you've been advocating for years so shut up an enjoy it for Pete's sake. [/end rant]
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No Nate bashing intended for this thread. He has been a slow paced coach for his entire coaching career. I think the players had to convince him, simple as that.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess. I'm certainly no surgeon and I'm relying on my limited medical knowledge from my time as a paramedic but the odds seem a little long that a meniscal transplant will work out minus complications, especially considering that Roy is looking to get back to a level of competitive sports that are going to put maximum stress on the transplanted body part. But it's worth a shot and probably beats the alternative of trying to hobble around for the next 4 years -- Worst case scenario is that he has it done now, rehabs through the lock-out, it doesn't work and he's probably forced to retire anyway.
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It is desperate, but what other choice is there? I googled "meniscus replacement" back in November when the "bone-on-bone" first came to light out of curiousity to see if the procedure even existed. I'm sure there's a reason it hasn't been brought up as a viable option until now - it's got to be loaded with possible complications. But it's just time to look at everything, including an unproven surgery to get our $80 million dollar guy back to 80% of the player he used to be (even if there's only a 50% chance of that, it's better than what we're looking at today)
 
Kaydow said:
It is desperate, but what other choice is there? I googled "meniscus replacement" back in November when the "bone-on-bone" first came to light out of curiousity to see if the procedure even existed. I'm sure there's a reason it hasn't been brought up as a viable option until now - it's got to be loaded with possible complications. But it's just time to look at everything, including an unproven surgery to get our $80 million dollar guy back to 80% of the player he used to be (even if there's only a 50% chance of that, it's better than what we're looking at today)
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So we are in total agreement is what you're saying?
 
"Brandon Roy" and "Tommy John" have similar aural qualities.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
"Brandon Roy" and "Tommy John" have similar aural qualities.

Ed O.
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Someone has to be the first... It would indeed be awesome if he got said surgery, recovered to 75% of his former self, and managed to be a productive player for a long time. And then yeah, players would have Brandon Roy's Surgery if needed.
 
Nikolokolus said:
So we are in total agreement is what you're saying?
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For maybe the first time ever. Meh, not really. Although it does seem like it doesn't happen very often. I'll give you credit though, you did call this with Roy. When the season started you said he was shot, and I thought you were crazy. I argued that he strated slow last season and it wasn't until Oden went down that he rounded into form. I think I wanted to believe that. Now look at what you've made me - I'm in agreement that we should blow up our 26 year old star players knees and throw an old stinky meniscus from a cadaver in there. At this point I'm okay with playing "Craps" with Brandon Roy's knees . . . I guess he is #7, right?
 
As long as it can't possibly make his knees worse, go for it.

Not 100% sure but I'm assuming they're reluctant to do it because of the fact the meniscus could just wear down very quickly because it's not his. I wonder what, if any, problems that could cause other then just treating it like a regular meniscus surgery if that were to happen.

In the end I'm definitely no orthopedic surgeon but this surgery seems like the best chance to be the most effective option for him. It obviously directly attacks the problem of having no meniscus.
 
RoyToy said:
As long as it can't possibly make his knees worse, go for it.

Not 100% sure but I'm assuming they're reluctant to do it because of the fact the meniscus could just wear down very quickly because it's not his. I wonder what, if any, problems that could cause other then just treating it like a regular meniscus surgery if that were to happen.

In the end I'm definitely no orthopedic surgeon but this surgery seems like the best chance to be the most effective option for him. It obviously directly attacks the problem of having no meniscus.
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The body typically rejects organic material from a foreign source. That said, taking a ligament from a cadaver and sewing it into a knee used to be radical, and now it is somewhat common. If there really is no meniscus, then what is the harm if Brandon's body rejects the foreign meniscus (other than some sort of staph infection, of course). It could simply be removed, his knees are still shot, and he's still not playing.
 
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