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At least we're getting out of the gates well. We seem to be a much better first quarter team this year.
Roy's Pistons vs Gordon's Blazers Official Game Thread
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At least we're getting out of the gates well. We seem to be a much better first quarter team this year.
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Holy f-ing shit! This is the perfect time for a meltdown! That sucked! Take a great game, then in the 4th quarter play like complete losers and make your fans feel like they're wasting their time watching you for quarters 1-3.
Everytime the blazers do this they say the SAME BULLCRAP. "we learned a lesson.."
BULL CRAP! You didn't learn no fucking lesson because you keep doing it you fucking moron mother fucking loser pieces of shit!
From now on, I will only watch the 4th quarter, because no lead is safe with these bums! If we could play the 4th like we played 1-3, we'd be 12-2 right now.
Everytime the blazers do this they say the SAME BULLCRAP. "we learned a lesson.."
BULL CRAP! You didn't learn no fucking lesson because you keep doing it you fucking moron mother fucking loser pieces of shit!
From now on, I will only watch the 4th quarter, because no lead is safe with these bums! If we could play the 4th like we played 1-3, we'd be 12-2 right now.
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Almost everything went wrong in the fourth quarter (no calls, the Pistons hitting a lot of shots, Portland missing some FTs they will normally hit) and yet... we won. We severely outplayed them for three quarters and then again at the very end of the game.
No reason to melt down for fans as far as I'm concerned.
Ed O.
No reason to melt down for fans as far as I'm concerned.
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Impossible to be 12-2 after only 13 games, but we would be 11-2 if Andre Miller didn't choke two layups and Oden didn't choke two free throws. 12-1 if Blake didn't choke two threes.
Blake has been playing poorly all season long thus far, and overall he seems to consistently be one of the worst players in the Blazers playing rotation.
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So? He's done nothing this season, which is what we're talking about. Besides, he's only been injured for 2 games.
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Well one is a young 21 year old that is expected to make mistakes to a degree, while the other is a vet and is expect not to make a lot of mistakes.
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So yours is only 5"????
Thank you for proving my point. Deleted. Tell everybody again how good Sergio is... You have proven that you don't know anything.
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Blowing a 20 point lead at home to the Pistons is cause for a meltdown. The Blazers keep doing this! It doesn't matter if you build a lead for 3 quarters and flush all that effort down the toilet in the 4th. Now I'm listening to Nate and the guys talk about how this "is a lesson"...how many times do they need this "lesson" before they stop doing it?
I think some fans around here don't realize how close the team had to having a meltdown of epic proportions. We nearly dropped our 3rd home loss of the young season, all 3 coming from 4th quarter CHOKING. This fuckers are a bunch of choke artists, that's all they are.
I think some fans around here don't realize how close the team had to having a meltdown of epic proportions. We nearly dropped our 3rd home loss of the young season, all 3 coming from 4th quarter CHOKING. This fuckers are a bunch of choke artists, that's all they are.
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If they win, what is the danger of not learning the "lesson"?
That they might not win by double digits next time?
That they might occasionally lose a game at home?
Shocking stuff, indeed.
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Not true. He has some very big shots in the 4th quarter this season. He has also created easy baskets on steals and putbacks. He had a game where he scored 19 points in 19 minutes. And we wouldn't have won the first game of the season without his efficient 23 points.
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Clutch stats don't lie. To be fair, the rest of the team hasn't been great either, but Outlaw hasn't been special and his presence certainly wouldn't be as great as you are making it out to be.
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We keep collapsing in the 4th quarter, but no big deal in Ed O's twisted world?
Hey, it's just a game. But if you care about the Blazers becoming a contender, you have to be kinda pissed about how they keep choking in the 4th.
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Here's the thing I find troubling about the last few games.
The team plays one style of ball for 40 minutes. They are aggressive. The look to push the ball. They attack the rim.
For the last 8 when they are ahead it's like they are playing not to loose. Holding the ball until the shot clock goes down to 8 seconds. Not taking scoring opportunities even when they are obvious. Waiting for so long in the clock to start the play allows the defense to set which in turn causes costly turnovers.
It looks like the basketball equivalent of the prevent defense.
I don't know why this is happening.
It could be Nate.
It could be energy level and intensity.
It could be fatigue from guys playing so far out of position for most of the game.
I don't know.
It does seem like Nate is calling more plays at the end of games. If that is the case, he seriously needs to rethink this strategy.
We won tonight because the Pistons suck ass.
Had this been a western conference contender Portland would have lost.
It isn't time to panic but the trend just doesn't look good.
The team plays one style of ball for 40 minutes. They are aggressive. The look to push the ball. They attack the rim.
For the last 8 when they are ahead it's like they are playing not to loose. Holding the ball until the shot clock goes down to 8 seconds. Not taking scoring opportunities even when they are obvious. Waiting for so long in the clock to start the play allows the defense to set which in turn causes costly turnovers.
It looks like the basketball equivalent of the prevent defense.
I don't know why this is happening.
It could be Nate.
It could be energy level and intensity.
It could be fatigue from guys playing so far out of position for most of the game.
I don't know.
It does seem like Nate is calling more plays at the end of games. If that is the case, he seriously needs to rethink this strategy.
We won tonight because the Pistons suck ass.
Had this been a western conference contender Portland would have lost.
It isn't time to panic but the trend just doesn't look good.
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They outplayed Detroit handily for 40 minutes.
This choking up at the end of games will pass as the team gains confidence.
As the team continues to gel, the guys will start believing in how good they are. Then they'll get steadily better for a couple of years.
This team is winning, without their starting SF and without their biggest offensive punch off the bench.
A win is a win. I truly don't get why people are having a hissy fit, again, after another win.
Go Blazers
This choking up at the end of games will pass as the team gains confidence.
As the team continues to gel, the guys will start believing in how good they are. Then they'll get steadily better for a couple of years.
This team is winning, without their starting SF and without their biggest offensive punch off the bench.
A win is a win. I truly don't get why people are having a hissy fit, again, after another win.
Go Blazers
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I second everything you wrote.
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The funny thing is, if Portland had had the crap stretch in the third quarter and come back to win close, the board would be bursting with admiration for the great comeback and how poised and clutch the team was.
I guess the team hasn't found the right timing, yet, for when to have its runs and slumps during the game. Right now they're winning, but eventually they'll learn to win the right way: get outscored in the second and/or third quarter and be good in the first and fourth quarters (can't start slow or end slow, both are signs of being losers...winners time their bad stretches for the middle of the game!).
It's a long season. Ration your panic. Save some angst for actual losses, don't burn yourself out on mere moral defeats.
I guess the team hasn't found the right timing, yet, for when to have its runs and slumps during the game. Right now they're winning, but eventually they'll learn to win the right way: get outscored in the second and/or third quarter and be good in the first and fourth quarters (can't start slow or end slow, both are signs of being losers...winners time their bad stretches for the middle of the game!).
It's a long season. Ration your panic. Save some angst for actual losses, don't burn yourself out on mere moral defeats.
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We played like shit down the stretch and almost gave this one away.................... BUT we didn't. 9-4 and we will go down and blow out a garbage G State team and then come home and beat a weak ass Minny team. I'm very content with 11-4, are you kidding me.
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I would still be troubled by any stretch of play that reduced a 20 point lead to 2 in 10 minutes no matter when it happened.
I am glad they won but the team doesn't look all that great right now. I am hoping they are just playing down to the level of the competition and will raise their game when they play someone who is for real.
We won't know that for a while yet. They don't play a half way decent team until next Monday (Bulls), then have a cush schedule until the following Saturday (Utah).
I saw on Blazersedge that Roy, when asked what he felt his role was, asked that same question to the reporter.
Does that sound like something to be thrilled with?
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Ouch.
Roy at SF in Nate's scheme is a misuse of our best player. Start Miller, Roy and a SF (Martell). At the very least, start Miller, Roy and taller guard (Rudy). But really, play Roy at SG and start a SF. Please. Throw Dante to the wolves for a few minutes with the second unit, and give Roy a few SF minutes against the other team's backup, but Roy should play SG in the starting lineup. Please.
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You look at this game, the Atlanta game, and even some of the previous games before that. The problem is a lack of a killer instinct. The Blazers get to the 4th quarter, and they start standing around and not doing the things that got them there in the first place. We have many repeated incidents now of them blowing 4th quarter leads. We have many incidents where Aldridge is smoking in the first half, and then in the 2nd half, they just quit going to him, or as i this game, don't even have him on the court for a lot of the 4th quarter where the lead was blown. They quit attacking the paint, stand around and shoot jumpers. Way to play into the other teams hands. Way to lack the killer instinct.
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Why? Basketball is a game of runs...every team in the league is going to have games where they have a big lead which then evaporates, including the eventual champion. It's annoying when it happens, but being "troubled" implies that it's a bad sign for the team which I just don't see.
I don't see a trend. Did they play to the level of Minnesota or Memphis? They beat San Antonio by double digits, barely lost to Denver and split with Houston (who has, so far, been playing like a good team). They don't look perfectly in sync, but they also don't look like a team lucky to have the record they do, IMO.
No, but it also doesn't sound all that alarming. I think Roy will figure it out, and the team will figure out the best way to play to maximize the talents on hand. It's not like Roy has been a non-factor so far. A little confusion while they recalibrate their team offense is not that big a deal. If they were 4-9 during that stretch, it would be a problem. I don't think they're playing their best basketball and yet they're in perfectly good position to contend for one of the top seeds, through the early going. Sure, there's been an assist from the schedule, but even when the schedule toughens, the team is likely to be better due to more experience playing together.
Mainly, I've realized over many years of watching the NBA that you can't discern season trends or stories from how a team is winning (or losing) games over a short stretch early on. The dynamics keep changing. You just want to see wins over any particular stretch of games. If later in the season, they still seem to be out of sync, it'll be a bigger worry...especially if it is translating into losses. Until then, though, enjoy the wins...they count for the same in the standings no matter how they come. I don't think you can translate how they beat Detroit into how they'll play against the Lakers or Celtics.
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One problem with your statement Minstrel. You act like the best teams have leads evaporate every game. They dont'. They kick the shit out of teams most games, and have the occasional lapse. Right now, Portland has lapses every game. In fact, it is forming such a pattern, I am pretty sure most scouts have noticed it. Portland tightens up and lets down in the 4th quarter instead of powering through the 4th quarter like past years. It all comes down to stopping playing the clock and keep playing basketball in the 4th quarter.
Good teams don't play for 3 quarters. They play for 4.