Rudy Fernandez Radio Interview (his words)

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Good question. On the other hand, how does the opposing team intend to defend Roy with a smaller PG?

That's the risk you take with starting a big guard. They'd most likely stick the SG on Roy and the PG on Rudy, since Rudy is more of a specialist. It's not like there are many players in the league that can guard Roy 1-1 anyways.
 
marca is about as reliable as shooter. every half assed football (excuse me, soccERRRR) rumor about a spanish player is usually linked a back to something absurdly out of context published by marca.
 
How do you plan on defending the opposing point guard?

They have to guard us. Rudy or Roy will be able to handle it as well as Blake did. Blake rarely stayed in front of penetrating guards.
 
Roy played SF when Rudy was on the floor on quite a few occasions last season. I think the addition of Turk would eliminate Roy from that position and keep him solely at SG and PG.

Rudy's concern for minutes is legit.

Outlaw had 28 mpg last year.
Frey had 12 mpg last year

Why can't we give Hedo 32 mpg of those 40 mpg. Can't Hedo be effective playing that many minutes at backup PF?

That leaves up to 8 additional mpg for Rudy.
 
How about a trade of Tyrus Thomas and the rights to Omer Asik for Rudy Fernandez. Bulls kind of need a shooting guard now.
 
How about a trade of Tyrus Thomas and the rights to Omer Asik for Rudy Fernandez. Bulls kind of need a shooting guard now.

Portland's needs from Chicago's roster are:

1. Hinrich
2. A backup PF

Given Hinrich's salary - it will have to include Blake, Travis and something...

I really doubt however that Rudy is going out - but if he is, it will be for a very big upgrade. Tyrus Thomas and a virtual Turk will not get it done...
 
They have to guard us. Rudy or Roy will be able to handle it as well as Blake did. Blake rarely stayed in front of penetrating guards.

So we are sacrificing defense for offensive? Oden was bad enough with Blake guarding the PG, I can't imagine how quick he would foul out with Rudy guarding the PG.
 
Why doesn't this work?

Code:
		C	PF	SF	SG	PG
Roy	36			8	18	10
LA	36		36			
Turk	32		12	20		
Rudy	30				30	
Batum	20			20		
Oden	28	28				
Pryz	20	20				
Blake	22					22
Bayless	16					16
[COLOR="Sienna"]TOTAL	240	48	48	48	48	48[/COLOR]
 
So we are sacrificing defense for offensive? Oden was bad enough with Blake guarding the PG, I can't imagine how quick he would foul out with Rudy guarding the PG.

I'm counting on both Oden and Rudy improving their defense this year. That usually happens the second year in the league if they care about improving their game. Oden made way too many reaching fouls. Rudy has the quickness, he needs work on using it.
 
Outlaw had 28 mpg last year.
Frey had 12 mpg last year

Why can't we give Hedo 32 mpg of those 40 mpg. Can't Hedo be effective playing that many minutes at backup PF?

That leaves up to 8 additional mpg for Rudy.

Frye didn't play in many games. He may have "averaged" 12 MPG, but he wasn't really part of the rotation.
 
Frye didn't play in many games. He may have "averaged" 12 MPG, but he wasn't really part of the rotation.

Yeah, I thought of that after I submitted. What about my rotation I posted abvoe? Can Turk play backup PF significant minutes?
 
Frye didn't play in many games. He may have "averaged" 12 MPG, but he wasn't really part of the rotation.

hmmmm... I went back and checked. Frye did average 9.0 mpg counting 82 games. Between Outlaw and Frye there are 36.5 mpg for 82 games. Give Hedo 30-32 and give the rest to Rudy. Works as long as Turk can play backup PF.
 
hmmmm... I went back and checked. He did average 9.0 mpg counting 82 games. Between Outlaw and Frye there are 36.5 mpg for 82 games. Give Hedo 30-32 and give the rest to Rudy. Works as long as Turk can play PF.

Frye kind of played spot minutes. I have no problem with Turkoglu getting those spot minutes as he would be way more effective.. I think you can realistically free up about 8 minutes that way.
 
Deleted. I only ever commented on the fact that he said/thinks Hedo is a guard.

I didn't make any other declaration Deleted.

Just like in College they play a lot of 3 guard rotations in europe. Meaning there is no SF. 3 positions? 6 guards?
 
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Rudy needs to get his head checked if he A) thinks Hedo is a guard, and B) that somehow his touches/minutes are going to get reduced -- Outlaw is outta here before the ink dries on Turk's new contract. Secondly Hedo's a willing passer who finds players on the wing or in the post off of kick outs. If anything I see Rudy's minutes staying about the same, and Steve's declining and he should be getting more looks off of cuts than he ever got last year.

Much ado about nothing IMO
 
How do you plan on defending the opposing point guard?

Take a look at my rotation. There are 10 min where Roy is PG and Rudy would be SG. Presumably that's when we'd have problem guarding opponent PG. But it's only 10 min and we can have Batum in at SF at that time, let him guard the PG. He seems to be pretty adept at allowing the quick PG to go by and then contest/block at the rim from behind.
 
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Well we didn't last year and won 54 games. :)

Most of the time "lol" means I chuckled a little inwardly as I gazed dully at the screen. In this case, however, I actually did laugh out loud.

You have to go clear back to Greg Anthony to find a Blazer point guard who could keep a guy in front of him.

Having Roy at the point is just continuing a long tradition.
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but I have not been happy with Blake since he first put on a Blazer Uni. So he isn't just my summer's scape goat.

Sure, he isn't dumb and he can hit the open shot as long it isn't crunch time, but is that what you want to say about your starting PG? He isn't stupid and can hit open 3's?

I would like to be able to say "Our starting point guard can take some of the load off of Brandon's back so he doesn't get worn down as the season progresses." Right now, I just can't say that about Blake and I am never going to be.

Blake would be a decent 15 minute a night reserve. He is one of the worst starting point guards in the league.

I hear what you are saying (also know my thoughts about Blake are in the minority on this board) . . . but you left out a key part of Blake . . . he works well Roy. I think that is key, to get role players who play well with the stars.
 
One thing that does trouble me. Why wouldn't Rudy pick up the phone and ask Nate or Kevin what's up? Why go straight to his agent or another source?

Their relationship just doesn't appear to be as solid as it should be.
 
I hear what you are saying (also know my thoughts about Blake are in the minority on this board) . . . but you left out a key part of Blake . . . he works well Roy. I think that is key, to get role players who play well with the stars.

It's not the end of the world if Blake starts again next year. I was just hoping for an upgrade at the position this off season.
 
This thread is going off topic with the Blake talk, but I must ask; if Paxson/Armstrong/Kerr were good enough for Chicago, why not Blake with Portland. I would take Blake over fisher, but Fisher just won another title. I think that Blake is the role player we need in the starting five. What Portland needs is better production from the SF, which Turk should provide, and offense from the low post that Oden hopefully provides. Get that and Blake is hardly a liability. He is a liability just as we got no offense this past season from Batum at SF and Oden/Joel at center.
 
My take on the Rudy Saga
I understand Rudy wants to play, but getting 26 mpg as a rookie isn't exactly getting splinters from riding the pine. If he was smart, he'd look at how the Spurs use Manu Ginobli for reference as a spark off the bench but still a player who can get crunch time minutes. I just don't ever see him being a star in the NBA; I don't think his body is made for the wear and tear that guys like Roy, Wade, and Kobe take on a nightly basis at the 2 guard spot. Have we ever seen a more beloved player? He should realize just how great of a situation playing in front of the Rose Garden crowd is. Every team needs role players and I hope Rudy can understand that. Unfortunately, I don't think he ever will. I have been a big advocate of trading Rudy since mid-season, because he'll never accept a backup role and will never start ahead of Roy. You all know the saying, buy low, sell high!

Holy Backboard
 
This thread is going off topic with the Blake talk, but I must ask; if Paxson/Armstrong/Kerr were good enough for Chicago, why not Blake with Portland. I would take Blake over fisher, but Fisher just won another title. I think that Blake is the role player we need in the starting five. What Portland needs is better production from the SF, which Turk should provide, and offense from the low post that Oden hopefully provides. Get that and Blake is hardly a liability. He is a liability just as we got no offense this past season from Batum at SF and Oden/Joel at center.

The obvious answer would be that Paxson, Armstrong and Kerr played with the greatest one/two defensive combination in NBA history. Blake isn't so lucky.

I love B-Roy, but he isn't even close to MJ. I like Batum but he is light years away from being Pippen.

LA isn't even as good as Rodman.

As for Fisher, he has hit way more big shots then Blake ever will. When he was younger he was flat out better then Blake on his best day. Also, he had the advantage of playing with Kobe and Shaq.

I would argue further that in all of the above cases, the title was won in spite of those guys being on the team, not because of it. Hopefully Portland will have enough good players that they can make up for Blake in the same way.
 
Why doesn't this work?

Code:
		C	PF	SF	SG	PG
Roy	36			8	18	10
LA	36		36			
Turk	32		12	20		
Rudy	30				30	
Batum	20			20		
Oden	28	28				
Pryz	20	20				
Blake	22					22
Bayless	16					16
[COLOR="Sienna"]TOTAL	240	48	48	48	48	48[/COLOR]

Hey, what did you do with Martell & Outlaw? Are you just assuming they both get traded if Turk signs here?
 
Hey, what did you do with Martell & Outlaw? Are you just assuming they both get traded if Turk signs here?

I'm definitely assuming Outlaw will be traded. Martel is another story, but for now he's injured and it's not clear when or even if he'll be back. If we get Hedo and want to keep Rudy, Martel will have to be traded too or accept a very limited role.
 
Hey, what did you do with Martell & Outlaw? Are you just assuming they both get traded if Turk signs here?

That table also assumes all nine of those guys will play all 82 games (when was the last time that happened?). For every game one of these guys misses, the average MPG for someone else will go up. For every DNP-CD Bayless gets, that means more minutes for someone else, etc.

BNM
 
All this angst about Rudy calling Turk a SG, but did he really even say it?

What he apparently said was

Turkoglu es un exterior
Now I don't speak Spanish, so I'll have to rely on internet traslations, which translate it as

Turkoglu is an outside
 
All this angst about Rudy calling Turk a SG, but did he really even say it?

What he apparently said was


Now I don't speak Spanish, so I'll have to rely on internet traslations, which translate it as

Agreed. I speak Spanish (though not fluently), and I'd say that his comment best translates to "Turkoglu is a perimeter [player]" not "Turkoglu is a guard."
 

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