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From a talent perspective, this may be reasonable. Concerns to me would be Stoudemire's down year this year and the supposed attitude issues. Also I had hoped to fleece the Suns, not trade equal value, so that would be disappointing. ;)

Overall, though, the team may very well be better for it. Hard to know if this is credible, though.
 
I don't see how this could be true. Amare is certainly a special player, but Amare+Greg doesn't seem like nearly as good a fit as LaMarcus+Greg.

barfo
 
we're going for an all-ACL surgery front line. next up jefferson!
 
Ed O said:
Do you think he's making it up from scratch in an effort to have a popular blog entry at 10:00 PM on a Tuesday night? REALLY?

His logic is fine, but he overextended it. Miles not coming off the cap DOES restrict our ability to make a splash in the FA market without cutting key assets free.

Ed O.
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I don't know where these guys get their trade rumors . . . I would hope he isn't making it up out of thin air . . . but again where do all these trade rumors come from. :dunno:

I really don't think his logic is fine. His whole idea of why Blazers are making this offer is because they can't be players in the free agent market.

That line just made me tune out . . . but I get you reading past that as a an overstatement and giving the writer crediblity. It's funny because that one paragraph made the rumor more believeble to you and less believeable to me.
 
Ed O said:
I don't think it's EVER ridiculous to be offered a trade of a couple of young players for an all-NBA player.

Stoudemire is an incredible player, people. He's probably going to be a in the HoF someday. He doesn't turn 27 until November, and the best years of his career are probably ahead of him.

Is he a perfect player? Heck, no. But is he a dominant one? Yes.

Might Aldridge get there someday? No question, he might. The odds are, though, that he will not.

I'm not eager to give up Aldridge for anyone, let alone Aldridge and Bayless, but I don't think that we should ignore what kind of player and asset we're talking about here in Stoudemire.

Ed O.
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amare is definitely a very good player but i don't consider him to be incredible or dominant outside of playing with nash in d'antoni's system.
 
If Amare doesn't like Porter's system . . . wait till he gets a taste of Nate's system and Blake running the fast break. :D
 
This trade might make more sense if they add Steve Nash on their side and we add Diogu and Frye (to balance the salaries) on our side.
 
No thanks. I'll keep LMA and Jerryd. Somewhere Rebecca is crying...
 
I dont' see how this trade would solve any of our problems.... it doesn't clear up our logjam at small forward... it doesn't make us better on the perimeter... and it costs us three of our best trade assets. I'm confused.
 
it's_GO_time said:
If Amare doesn't like Porter's system . . . wait till he gets a taste of Nate's system and Blake running the fast break. :D
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If system is the problem, I think Phoenix focusing the offense around Shaq is the issue more than pace.
 
I would rather keep Bayless, but the trade is intriguing.

Amare would look great next to Oden. Amare can also hit the 15-footer consistantly and he and Oden would be dunking on everyone in the league. Maybe the all time posterizing combination.

My only concern is Amare's defense, which everyone says is poor. I don't know if that is just D'Antoni left overs or if he could be much better. It would be interesting.
 
Ed O said:
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/13515062



It seems like this would be the Suns' asking price, right? Wouldn't the Suns take this deal and run if they could get it and were convinced they were going to trade Amare?

Ed O.
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The Suns would do that and not look back. My guess is this rumor was leaked because it was proposed by the Suns and rejected by KP. The entire Courtside crew spent a lot of last nights show bashing Amare and saying how bad of a fit he'd be. I think the Blazers would try and get them to put out a positive spin if they were planning on making a trade.

This could also only be part of the story, Portland could be exploring a 3-way.
 
If Portland got Barbosa back with Amare, I'm much more on board.
 
it's_GO_time said:
If Amare doesn't like Porter's system . . . wait till he gets a taste of Nate's system and Blake running the fast break. :D
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Yeah. And running might not be the right word there.

barfo
 
Wow highway robbery.

Amar'e is a team killer, and he can't play with (a rejuvenated) Shaq this year. What's to say he could play with Oden?

Amar'e is a poor defender... worse than Aldridge.

He's selfish as a person and a surly off-the-court person.

F that.
 
Minstrel said:
If system is the problem, I think Phoenix focusing the offense around Shaq is the issue more than pace.
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I could swear I read where Amare was complaingin about the system Proter has implemented.

I did a qucik search and couldn't find it (maybe I read it here and though it was fact). Anyways I did find this (bummer for Porter):
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Sources close to the Suns front office tell me that Terry Porter hasn't lived up to expectations and has been given a list of specific things to improve on. Failure to perform could cost him his job.

Many blame Porter for not maximizing the talent on the roster and for not gaining the respect of his veteran players"

I'll look for Amare personally complaining about Porter . . . but maybe I'm wrong.

Edit: I found this too:

After Friday's loss to Miami, Suns power forward Amaré Stoudemire expressed unhappiness with his role that he also shared in a Nov. 20 espn.com interview published Friday.

Asked after the game if the offense puts him in the right spots, Stoudemire said, "Sorta, kinda. Consistency for me would be great. That way, I know what to look forward to and how to attack. That way, when I do get it, I'm not off-balance or surprised I have it."

Asked if this system can provide him the chances he wants, he said, "I really don't know. I know I put in a lot of hard work this off-season to really take that next step, to really be in the class of the D-Wades (Dwyane Wade) and the LeBrons (LeBron James) and the Dwights (Dwight Howard). I put in the hard work this off-season to be in that class. Right now, I'm a little frustrated."

After making 9 of 21 shots in a Nov. 20 loss to the Lakers, Stoudemire mentioned those names to espn.com as "featured guys" to say how he wants to be the go-to guy in an offense that now starts with Shaquille O'Neal post-ups.

"I want to show the league and the world that I feel like my game has improved to that level," Stoudemire told espn.com.

He said the Lakers "were fluid, flowing . . . I remember when we looked like that."

He also talked to espn.com about free agency in 2010, when he can opt out of his contract. Such talk is bound to produce trade rumors with Stoudemire not rebounding and defending like a star. In recent games, his offensive involvement has curtailed.

"Absolutely!" Stoudemire told espn.com when asked if he thinks about 2010 free agency. "As a player, you should look at the teams you might want to play for. The city you may want to live in. The system you may want to play in. The economy. The cost of living. Everything. It's about what's best for you."
 
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From a pure talent perspective, the trade is even. But I'd consider the trade only if Bayless wasn't involved. We'd be getting a top 5 PF to pair with our top 5 SG.

Is Amar'e a locker room cancer? Is his defense suspect? Would he fit in with Greg? I don't know. I'm sure KP knows more then me. But I do know that he is an incredible player and better then we can expect Aldridge to ever be (no offense to him).
 
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I think it's Phoenix who is asking for that package from us. Not the other way around. The source must have gotten confused.
 
it's_GO_time said:
I could swear I read where Amare was complaingin about the system Proter has implemented."
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Yes, I wasn't disagreeing that Amare was unhappy with the system. My point was that if the system is what is hurting his numbers, I think it is more the Suns' (Porter's) reliance on Shaq, rather than slower pace.

Could he work with Oden? I guess it's a reasonable question.
 
Dallasbasketball.com called an Amare/Aldridge trade last week...

CBSsports.com is now calling an Amare/Aldridge+others trade...

Where there is smoke there is fire?
 
it's_GO_time said:
If Amare doesn't like Porter's system . . . wait till he gets a taste of Nate's system and Blake running the fast break. :D
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Should we not get the best team possible because of a coach who has an expiring contract relatively soon?

KP should get the best players that fit together possible, and then he should hire a coach that can lead them. He should not, IMO, get a coach (especially one with no track record of success) and then tailor his acquisitions around that coach.

Ed O.
 
BengalDuck said:
Wow highway robbery.

Amar'e is a team killer, and he can't play with (a rejuvenated) Shaq this year. What's to say he could play with Oden?

Amar'e is a poor defender... worse than Aldridge.

He's selfish as a person and a surly off-the-court person.

F that.
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What teams has he killed? I don't really know what you're talking about.

It looks like Kerr and Porter that have killed the Suns to me.

Ed O.
 
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