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http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/13515062

The Portland Trail Blazers have made a strong play for Amare Stoudemire, discussing a package that includes LaMarcus Aldridge, Jerryd Bayless, and Raef LeFrentz's $12.7 million expiring contract, a person with direct knowledge of the talks told CBSSports.com Tuesday.
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It seems like this would be the Suns' asking price, right? Wouldn't the Suns take this deal and run if they could get it and were convinced they were going to trade Amare?

Ed O.
 
Also from that link:

Freeland, playing for Gran Canaria of the Spanish League, is part of the discussion between the Blazers and Suns, the person with knowledge of the talks said.
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That's a very odd bit of information, in terms of if someone was just making something up. Dontcha think?

Ed O.
 
bwahahaha!!

These people must be delusional to think we really offered that.
 
Don't want Amare, don't need him.
 
Prediction--100 posts on this thread before midnight.
 
If KP makes this deal, there goes all his credibility. Amare is great, but man...chemistry wise, contract wise...dunno man
 
Ed O said:
It seems like this would be the Suns' asking price, right? Wouldn't the Suns take this deal and run if they could get it and were convinced they were going to trade Amare?
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If that deal was on the table, there's no way the Suns would turn it down. That would be highway robbery.
 
yuyuza1 said:
bwahahaha!!

These people must be delusional to think we really offered that.
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It says, "discussing a package", not "made an offer".

I gotta think that if the Suns got that offered they'd take it and run.

Further, if that WAS the deal that was being offered, why would Freeland be discussed, too?

Ed O.
 
if the blazers had actually offered that, this deal would already be done.
 
Ed O said:
Also from that link:



That's a very odd bit of information, in terms of if someone was just making something up. Dontcha think?

Ed O.
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I don't know but the below statement in his article made it a lot less credible, IMO.

"The Blazers lost any chance of being a major player in free agency this summer when Darius Miles came out of medical retirement and joined the Memphis Grizzlies"

That is flat out wrong.
 
If that is what we have on the table that blows every team out of the water. It's not even close.

Aldridge
Bayless
Freeland (who's playing great this year, btw)

You gotta be fucking kidding me.
 
it's_GO_time said:
I don't know but the below statement in his article made it a lot less credible, IMO.

"The Blazers lost any chance of being a major player in free agency this summer when Darius Miles came out of medical retirement and joined the Memphis Grizzlies"
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Why does that reduce credibility? We were in position to add TWO major players, including a max player. Now we'd need to renounce two of our six top rotation players to get to a max player, right?

I guess that it's not entirely accurate to say "lost any chance", but that whole paragraph seems to be "person with direct knowledge of the talks" information.

I would not be shocked if it was the Suns leaking it to put pressure on other teams to step up...

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
It says, "discussing a package", not "made an offer".

I gotta think that if the Suns got that offered they'd take it and run.

Further, if that WAS the deal that was being offered, why would Freeland be discussed, too?

Ed O.
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True--discussing a package could mean that Kerr requested that package, and then he and KP spent a couple minutes discussing how ridiculous that request was.
 
I don't think the Blazers would trade LaMarcus for Amare, especially considering the Blazers have the leverage here. Not only that, I think it's a bit telling that the Suns are rumored to be talking to teams about trading Amare.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
True--discussing a package could mean that Kerr requested that package, and then he and KP spent a couple minutes discussing how ridiculous that request was.
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that's what my guess would be here, and now the suns have let out that this package was being "discussed" to see if they can get better offers than they've been receiving.
 
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Like I said in another thread the Suns couldn't do any better IMO with LMA, Bayless and LaFrenz for Amare. I would think Phx would jump all over that if we offered that trade and they are serious about trading Amare. The article also talks about Freeland and I hope they at least replace Bayless with Freeland if we are trading for Amare. By the way the trade doesn't work with Bayless unless Phx includes another player. A trade of LMA, Freeland and LaFrenz does work though.
 
Looking at their roster Robin Lopez is the only young player that intrigues me.

LMA/Raef seems like more than enough but Bayless + Freeland seems a bit much.
 
Ed O said:
Why does that reduce credibility? We were in position to add TWO major players, including a max player. Now we'd need to renounce two of our six top rotation players to get to a max player, right?

I guess that it's not entirely accurate to say "lost any chance", but that whole paragraph seems to be "person with direct knowledge of the talks" information.

I would not be shocked if it was the Suns leaking it to put pressure on other teams to step up...

Ed O.
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It reduces crediblity for me because he is making a statment to rationalize why the Blazers want this, and he is wrong in his facts and which shoots down his rationale. The Blazers could be a major palyer in the free agent market.

If he would say something like the Blazers don't want to let Raef's contract expire because although that gives them cap space, there is no one to get thid summer so they are making a play for Amare . . . that would be differnet as it shows he knows what he is talking about,

Instead he is trying to explain why the Blazers are intersted in this, but his analysis is all worng . . . I don't think he know waht he is talking about.
 
I just don't think that replacing Aldridge with Stoudemire is the answer. Stoudemire doesn't play defense the way Aldridge does. Our problems are on defense and not offense, right?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
True--discussing a package could mean that Kerr requested that package, and then he and KP spent a couple minutes discussing how ridiculous that request was.
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I don't think it's EVER ridiculous to be offered a trade of a couple of young players for an all-NBA player.

Stoudemire is an incredible player, people. He's probably going to be a in the HoF someday. He doesn't turn 27 until November, and the best years of his career are probably ahead of him.

Is he a perfect player? Heck, no. But is he a dominant one? Yes.

Might Aldridge get there someday? No question, he might. The odds are, though, that he will not.

I'm not eager to give up Aldridge for anyone, let alone Aldridge and Bayless, but I don't think that we should ignore what kind of player and asset we're talking about here in Stoudemire.

Ed O.
 
Amar'e is only 2 years and 4 months older. At 23, Amare was an All-Star.
 
it's_GO_time said:
It reduces crediblity for me because he is making a statment to rationalize why the Blazers want this, and he is wrong in his facts and which shoots down his rationale. The Blazers could be a major palyer in the free agent market.

If he would say something like the Blazers don't want to let Raef's contract expire because although that gives them cap space, there is no one to get thid summer so they are making a play for Amare . . . that would be differnet as it shows he knows what he is talking about,

Instead he is trying to explain why the Blazers are intersted in this, but his analysis is all worng . . . I don't think he know waht he is talking about.
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Do you think he's making it up from scratch in an effort to have a popular blog entry at 10:00 PM on a Tuesday night? REALLY?

His logic is fine, but he overextended it. Miles not coming off the cap DOES restrict our ability to make a splash in the FA market without cutting key assets free.

Ed O.
 
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