Rumored deal?

[Crimson the Cat]

yeah I know, I'm not jumping on you or anything, sorry if it seemed that way. I just think if the only extra experience he has, is what we already have, why not go for sessions.

Oh, no worries. I didn't take it that way at all.

 

[Wheels]

Oh, no worries. I didn't take it that way at all.

ok just wanted to make sure, I have had some take me as getting after them before.

 

[hasoos]

Step away from the crack pipe.

 

[RR7]

Who's on crack?

 

[Minstrel]

My guess would be Bayless. Or at least, that makes the most sense to me. I know he isn't going to be a "True PG" that many want. But maybe KP and Nate have seen enough to like out o fhim where, Miller bridges the gap for a year or two to Bayless, whereas adding Sessions relegates Bayless to career backup, trade fodder, or eventual starter, making Sessions a very expensive backup.

That's possibly their thinking, but I think it would be too risky. I like Bayless' talent a lot, but he's far from a sure thing. If you acquire Sessions, you lock in some certainty at the position long-term.

Having two good/very good players at point guard isn't a bad problem to have...you can always trade one. I don't think it will be hard to find teams interested in a good, young point guard. However, having no good players at a position is a bad problem and if you pass on Sessions because you have Bayless and then Bayless doesn't pan out...that's what you're looking at.

So, I really hope the Blazers aren't putting all their eggs in the Bayless basket. I can easily see Bayless becoming a star...I can also see him becoming a bust.

 

[Wheels]

That's possibly their thinking, but I think it would be too risky. I like Bayless' talent a lot, but he's far from a sure thing. If you acquire Sessions, you lock in some certainty at the position long-term.

Having two good/very good players at point guard isn't a bad problem to have...you can always trade one. I don't think it will be hard to find teams interested in a good, young point guard. However, having no good players at a position is a bad problem and if you pass on Sessions because you have Bayless and then Bayless doesn't pan out...that's what you're looking at.

So, I really hope the Blazers aren't putting all their eggs in the Bayless basket. I can easily see Bayless becoming a star...I can also see him becoming a bust.

I like that, but it scares me at the same time. Sessions, and Bayless as our PG's I would want a vet 3rd stringer though I hope. too bad Lindsey Hunter was just re-signed.

 

[RR7]

But if you sign Sessions, and he doesn't pan out....

You're left going into the season relying on two very young players to run the PG position for a team expected to get past the first round of the playoffs. At least going into it with Miller, you basically know what you are getting. Same with sticking with Blake, or going to Hinrich, as well. Going in with Sessions, we know he can run a team that has absolutely nothing to play for. Milwaukee's team was basically on extended summer league after Redd went down. Do we know whether he can 'run an offense"? That he can play alongside a high usage guard and play 4th fiddle? We don't. I am not saying he can't, but he is stilla question mark as an above average starter in the league. Not as much as Bayless, but again, with Miller, Bayless has 2 years of backup time to learn, develop, etc. Signing Sessions makes him PG #1, which leaves much bigger question marks than signing Miller, and basically pushing the PG issue out 2 years, which is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Minstrel]

But if you sign Sessions, and he doesn't pan out....

To me, he's already panned out. He's posted above average PERs in both his first two seasons, his second season improved on his first and he started a significant number of games in his second season.

I agree that Miller provides some veteran experience that Sessions can't match, but I'd prefer the long-term talent of Sessions over the short-term leadership of Miller. The Blazers have Blake on a one-year commitment...they can always use him as the primary backup to Sessions, let Bayless again prove he belongs in 5-10 minutes per game for one more season and aim for giving Bayless a bigger role in his third season. By then, more will be known...Sessions will have a season as Blazers starter under his belt, Bayless will or will not have pushed Blake out of his way. Blake can then walk as a free agent and the team can decide what it has in Sessions and Bayless and whether they need to address the position further.

 

[Wheels]

To me, he's already panned out. He's posted above average PERs in both his first two seasons, his second season improved on his first and he started a significant number of games in his second season.

I agree that Miller provides some veteran experience that Sessions can't match, but I'd prefer the long-term talent of Sessions over the short-term leadership of Miller. The Blazers have Blake on a one-year commitment...they can always use him as the primary backup to Sessions, let Bayless again prove he belongs in 5-10 minutes per game for one more season and aim for giving Bayless a bigger role in his third season. By then, more will be known...Sessions will have a season as Blazers starter under his belt, Bayless will or will not have pushed Blake out of his way. Blake can then walk as a free agent and the team can decide what it has in Sessions and Bayless and whether they need to address the position further.

hell you convinced me, now get Odom too, and we are SET.

 

[ironcrotch]

Who's on crack?

No one. We're Portland, we do meth.

 

[RR7]

hell you convinced me, now get Odom too, and we are SET.

How would we also get Odom?

 

[Wheels]

How would we also get Odom?

I have no idea lol. I'll give them Outlaw and Webster. They would have to like those guys though.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Stop fucking around and get this team Ramon Sessions. Andre Miller is the 2nd best alternative, would much rather have him than Hinrich.

 

[SpanishFly]

To me, he's already panned out. He's posted above average PERs in both his first two seasons, his second season improved on his first and he started a significant number of games in his second season.

I agree that Miller provides some veteran experience that Sessions can't match, but I'd prefer the long-term talent of Sessions over the short-term leadership of Miller. The Blazers have Blake on a one-year commitment...they can always use him as the primary backup to Sessions, let Bayless again prove he belongs in 5-10 minutes per game for one more season and aim for giving Bayless a bigger role in his third season. By then, more will be known...Sessions will have a season as Blazers starter under his belt, Bayless will or will not have pushed Blake out of his way. Blake can then walk as a free agent and the team can decide what it has in Sessions and Bayless and whether they need to address the position further.

agree, Sessions basically is a 23 yr old version of Miller IMO with room to improve. And I think that's a good thing

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

And why is Miller a better idea than Sessions?

KP has a Travis Oultaw-esqe man crush on Jerryd.

 

[SpanishFly]

And why is Miller a better idea than Sessions?

KP has a Travis Oultaw-esqe man crush on Jerryd.

I certainly don't think he is, would we rather have a 23 or 34 yr old version of very similarly skilled players?

 

[gatorpops]

I think Portland had a kind of two headed plan, or rather, one plan, with two avenues. One of either the SF or PG needed to be able to create opportunities better for themselves AND others. If you add that at the SF position(Hedo, Prince), then Blake was acceptable at the PG position, with Bayless backing him up. However, if the SF position was not upgraded, then you looked to do it at the PG position(Miller, Nash, etc.) and then you are fine at SF with Batum and Webster.

Why don't you post more often?

You make more sense than nearly anyone on this board.

This is probably what PA was referring to when he said, " go for it" or something to that affect.

 

[C_note]

Ring around the rosy, PG edition...makes no sense.

 

[gatorpops]

you are right, but it also doesnt show us how one will react in a higher pressure situation in a WCF or so, that for him is as much of an enigma, as for the guys we have already.

How has Sessions done in the playoffs? Seems we would have to compare.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

And why is Miller a better idea than Sessions?

KP has a Travis Oultaw-esqe man crush on Jerryd.

I hope this isn't a John Nash moment where Pritchard passes up on a up and coming point guard because he has a "point" guard who has shown flashes.

Telfair > Paul

Bayless > Sessions? Please no. Even if it were true, you could always trade one of them in a couple years and get a nice asset or two for them.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I hope this isn't a John Nash moment where Pritchard passes up on a up and coming point guard because he has a "point" guard who has shown flashes.

Telfair > Paul

Bayless > Sessions? Please no. Even if it were true, you could always trade one of them in a couple years and get a nice asset or two for them.

The story has Pritchard screaming in the war room to draft Paul or Williams despite already having Telfair, but he was overruled by PatterNash. That is the reason he was given the GM job supposedly.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

The story has Pritchard screaming in the war room to draft Paul or Williams despite already having Telfair, but he was overruled by PatterNash. That is the reason he was given the GM job supposedly.

Oh I know that, but I'm hoping he isn't making the same mistake Nash did. I don't think there's any excuse to not look at Ramon Sessions as your first candidate right now. I would consider the summer a success if we're able to resign our two guys and get Sessions.

 

[Wheels]

How has Sessions done in the playoffs? Seems we would have to compare.

I said he is as much of an enigma, as the guys we have already. He HAS proven more than Sessions yes.

 

[PapaG]

Oh I know that, but I'm hoping he isn't making the same mistake Nash did. I don't think there's any excuse to not look at Ramon Sessions as your first candidate right now. I would consider the summer a success if we're able to resign our two guys and get Sessions.

I can think of an excuse. He's a brutal outside shooter who dominates the ball. Hinrich would be a much better fit, although I'm not keen on that move either.

 

[e_blazer]

You know, I've noticed over time that this place operates much like one of those holding tanks at the fish hatchery. If somebody tosses something in the water, it's a feeding frenzy whether it's fish food or just some piece of trash.

But then, what else do we have to do this summer?

 

[PapaG]

You know, I've noticed over time that this place operates much like one of those holding tanks at the fish hatchery. If somebody tosses something in the water, it's a feeding frenzy whether it's fish food or just some piece of trash.

But then, what else do we have to do this summer?

I'd personally like to be able to have a board toast to locking up Brandon Roy for 5 years at a max, and LMA for 5 years at $11/million.

 

[RR7]

Why don't you post more often?

You make more sense than nearly anyone on this board.

This is probably what PA was referring to when he said, " go for it" or something to that affect.

Meh, even a blind squirrel finds a nut. I do what I can, though. This thought just makes the most sense to me. Those two positions, because of our current makeup, have a direct correlation on one another.

 

[Entity]

The Bulls just waived a player. Could mean they're making a move...

 

[Sinobas]

Why don't we just sign Miller? Let Bayless and Blake battle for the backup spot in the pre-season. Blake's contract is expiring next season anyway.

 

[hasoos]

Why don't we just sign Miller? Let Bayless and Blake battle for the backup spot in the pre-season. Blake's contract is expiring next season anyway.

Because KP is in control. There. I said it.