Rumors flying that Zucc is on his way out

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They have had ups and downs, but I would take our top 4 on D over 98% of the teams in the NHL. I would expect them to play well as we go down the stretch here, and I am hopeful Hank will be back within 2 weeks or so, then away we go.

The 3rd pair they should flip Moore and a mid pick and add a stay at home 3rd pair dman to play with Boyle. Then Hunwick will be the 7th dman, and we are all set back there.
 
Zucc was our leading scorer last season. He is on pace for 16 goals and 47 points this season. He was on maybe our best line last season AND is on our best line this season. He is well liked in the room. He is fiesty and gritty on the ice.

NO WAY do I give him more than 4.5 or 4.6 per, but he is an important player here.

I value all that stuff more than you guys do I guess. With that said at the same time you guys down play his role here or importance here, you also think we should get this big haul for him if we trade him as a pending UFA. Interesting...
 
Let's say they traded Zucc for Stewart and Foligno. Then Buffalo signs Zucc and overpays him.

Is this a better team?


Stewart-Brassard-Nash
Hagelin-Stepan-St.Louis
Kreider-Hayes-Miller
Foligno-Moore-Fast/Stempniak
 
Right, and that proves my point. Adding Stewart AND Foligno makes us deeper which is what we need to get done here to be fully legit.

With that said, of course Buffalo wouldn't do that deal because they are out of it and it makes very little sense to deal for a pending UFA who is very doubtful to stay in Buffalo (unless they have a set deal to flip Zucc before 3 PM tomorrow).
 
I think Zucc stays with Buffalo. They can offer him 5 years, close to 6 million and he'll do what most players do. Take the money.
 
I doubt he would sign there, but that's the point, they wouldn't know and therefore would be very doubtful to deal for a guy like Zucc and take the chance he may sign long term. Can't see it.


Andy Strickland: Talks is still that the Sabres are looking for a 2nd round pick and high-end prospect for Chris Stewart.
 
I would do a 2nd rounder for Stewart and maybe a prospect on the McIlrath or Graves level. Obviously no shot I'd give them any of our top prospects with a 2nd.
 
No Graves. Period. He should not be included in any deal. Nor should Walcott.
 
I am surprised at the desperation of so many teams. Worse than ever this year.
 
I just threw him out there. Someone on that middle level with one of our 2nd's. That would be a real solid move for us. Doubt it happens though. Stewart will go to Boston or some other team.
 
I am not, wide open for the cup this year. Both the East and the West are open. Hawks lose Kane. Kings up and down. Cup is wide open. Who are the favs? Pick 4 teams in each conference and good luck.
 
chuckd3534 said:
I agree, and I don't think Zucc gets dealt. The players love him and he's an important part of the team and that room. I think he'll agree to an extension and it will all work out.

Then Sather can focus on what he should be focused on, adding a bottom 6 forward and a 3rd pair dman. I think J. Moore played his last NYR game last night. Happy he scored, makes him look better.
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Where is this coming from, this love fest? They traded call, could there be any more love than that of the former captain? Think they did just fine giving up their boyfriend last year. This is a business and if Zucc thinks he is more valuable than he really is, that is a selfish player. Dont profess your love for the team and city and how you want to be a member of something special in the greatest city in the world and then bitch about 500k to 1 million dollars. Bye Zucc your not as good as you think and can be replaced with another smurf.
 
the more I think about it the more I see Sather dealing Zucc

If Pacioretty is making 4.5 / 6years than there is no reason Zucc should demand more...
 
And if they trade him they trade him Al...I am fine with that. BUT I would NOT trade him unless it improves the team. That is where I differ from some in here. We are in this to win a cup, and if trading Zucc makes us worse why the HELL would I do it? Just treat him as a rental guy that we didn't need to give up picks to get.

I never said I wouldn't trade him because he is a leader in the locker room and well liked. I said I wouldn't trade him unless I could get a better player, or at least as good of a player. That is what happened with Cally right? MSL was the better player, so that deal was perfect for Sather.

If I cannot get better I hold and deal with it this summer.
 
The offer is more than fair. I just think when push comes to shove Sather doesn't deal him. We'll see...
 
Told you guys...:).


4:08PM: The situation with Zuccarello and the Rangers has “shifted” since yesterday and the two sides have resumed discussions and hope to still get a deal done. (Katie Strang)
 
6:51AM: The terms of the deal have been finalized, FOUR-YEARS and $4.5 million, but the partial NTC will be finalized this morning. (McKenzie)


Give Zucc credit. He showed he wants to be here. Came off the crazy 5 mill + stance and took a very fair deal for him, and one that helps the team also.

My guess is he said give me four years only so I can get out there and get another deal after I prove myself over a handful of years. He'll only be 31 I believe.

Shows you what this guy is all about (unlike Cally), and that he wanted to be here. Takes his 1 mill raise (up from 1.15 last season) and is very happy. Good for Zucc. Nice jump in two years.
 
Am I glad this rumor died. One thing for sure....if Zucc did not agree with
contract, I am sure Sather would have dealt him.
 
The Callahan trade helped the Rangers w Zuc IMO. Zuc never wanted to leave NY but he knew Sather would move him. I do think Zuc took less then he would get from a team on July 1 but 4/18 is a fair contract for a good (not great but still important) player
 
In the post today, Zucc pretty much said to his agent to stop being a moron and take the offer. He didn't want to leave NY. Agents are dangerous. I can't believe Callahan was so stupid that he turned down the offer Sather game him which was complete overpayment.
 
i'm not a big Zucc guy so to me $4.5M for him is a lot of money and an overpay.
 
Cally being stupid was a plus for us for sure. If we had him at 6 mill per that would be bad.

I think 4.5 mill for a 50-60 point guy, which is what Zucc is (59 points last year and on pace for 50 points this year after a slow start) is very fair. 5 mill + would have been too much.

Just my humble opinion.
 
I think Zucc's contract is fine when you look at the market.
 
Honestly, 4.5 million for a 50 point player that plays defense is not overpayment. Last year he was tied for 50th in the league for scoring. So out of 750+ players in the league, only 49 did better than he did offensively. About 20 of those guys don't play defense for crap. I would have traded him if he wanted over 5 million. 4.5 is good for what he brings.
 
If you watched his post game last night you could see how relieved he is.
 
There's no one good coming up as FA that we could get that could be replace the 50pts we get out of Zucc, so i understand we don't have a lot of options. But at $4.5M i'm not crazy about a guy that is not in the top 20 scorers at his position and lacks the size we need to compete with the big dogs in the playoffs. If i could choose i would rather pay that money to Bozak, for example.
 
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