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There are several players that have withdrawn. Some of them can get more NIL money than they will what they would get as a late 2nd round pick or an UDFA.
 
illmatic99 said:
Daniels.... and a bunch of second rounders.

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Did a little research on these guys. Darius Days, a 4th year senior 6'7" PF, doubt that he will be drafted. Russell, 5'11" PG, 24 year old 5th year senior, can't see him gettin drafted, Walton 24 year old senior, don't see him getting drafted. Gueye has withdrawn. Champagne 22 year old junior SF looks like his forte is defense, not an efficient offensive player, would not be in play until our second pick.
 
A friend of mine went to Grad School at U of A (so long ago that while there, he played a pickup game with Brian "Bison Dele" Williams) and has followed Arizona ever since. I asked him what he thought of Mathurin and he replied:

"On the court, the guy can be a two way player, athletic and smooth, good first step. Will need to develop as a reliable outside shooter from NBA distance, but there’s nothing funky about his form and with his size, he should be able to do that. He can finish the break against college guys. He seems to be a sensible kid, played cool in close games and didn’t make stupid mistakes (knew his personnel—didn’t give the ball to guys who were unlikely to score in the position they were in), so mature for his age (by comparison, Dalen Terry, his backcourt mate, can’t shoot, played solid on-ball D, and got credit for having vision but seemed to make bad decisions). I’d say he’s worth investing in—seems like he’d respond to good coaching. But youth is youth—hard to predict."

So, there you are. I asked him if he thought Mathurin was worth the 7th pick and he was pretty noncommittal. Damning with faint praise, if you ask me. But what's this about some kind of scandal involving a cheerleader?
 
i think if everything works out for Mathurin he projects to be someone like Jason Richardson with defense. I think that's a kinda high ceiling dude I would not be opposed to.

Glad they're working him out even if there are rumors of a possible promise for him to Indy @6.
 
If the Blazers were rebuilding aka trade Dame and put Ant in the PG spot and then draft Mathurin at SG/SF i might be ok with that BUT if the Blazers are trying to Win in the next 2 yrs or less not sure he fits in that time line.
 
illmatic99 said:
i think if everything works out for Mathurin he projects to be someone like Jason Richardson with defense. I think that's a kinda high ceiling dude I would not be opposed to.

Glad they're working him out even if there are rumors of a possible promise for him to Indy @6.
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I've seen this comparison thrown around a lot for Ben's upside. I see it offensively. I think Jason had more game inside the arc, but Ben has the shooting edge at same stage.

Jason was the better defender in college imo though. Similar tools but I think Jason was both smarter and had better instincts from the games I've been able to find on youtube. Stats show it too. Better stl and blk rates, better defensive rebounder.

I don't think Ben busts but he just feels like the classic player that goes high based on the shooting + athleticism combination, but doesn't have the feel level / dribble, pass or defend well enough to return more than late lottery value. We'll see though.
 
JDC said:
I've seen this comparison thrown around a lot for Ben's upside. I see it offensively. I think Jason had more game inside the arc, but Ben has the shooting edge at same stage.

Jason was the better defender in college imo though. Similar tools but I think Jason was both smarter and had better instincts from the games I've been able to find on youtube. Stats show it too. Better stl and blk rates, better defensive rebounder.

I don't think Ben busts but he just feels like the classic player that goes high based on the shooting + athleticism combination, but doesn't have the feel level / dribble, pass or defend well enough to return more than late lottery value. We'll see though.
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Yeah I feel there’s a good chance that Mathurin turn into McLemore. Those type of guards either turn into a Beal/Ray Allen type or flat out bust
 
JDC said:
I've seen this comparison thrown around a lot for Ben's upside. I see it offensively. I think Jason had more game inside the arc, but Ben has the shooting edge at same stage.

Jason was the better defender in college imo though. Similar tools but I think Jason was both smarter and had better instincts from the games I've been able to find on youtube. Stats show it too. Better stl and blk rates, better defensive rebounder.

I don't think Ben busts but he just feels like the classic player that goes high based on the shooting + athleticism combination, but doesn't have the feel level / dribble, pass or defend well enough to return more than late lottery value. We'll see though.
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Agreed. Decent prospect, but should really be closer to a #15 pick instead of top 10
 
JDC said:
I've seen this comparison thrown around a lot for Ben's upside. I see it offensively. I think Jason had more game inside the arc, but Ben has the shooting edge at same stage.

Jason was the better defender in college imo though. Similar tools but I think Jason was both smarter and had better instincts from the games I've been able to find on youtube. Stats show it too. Better stl and blk rates, better defensive rebounder.

I don't think Ben busts but he just feels like the classic player that goes high based on the shooting + athleticism combination, but doesn't have the feel level / dribble, pass or defend well enough to return more than late lottery value. We'll see though.
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I go back and forth on Matherin. Sometimes I watch and think he looks like a future star. Sometimes I watch and see KCP. I'm lost on this guy.
 
JDC said:
I've seen this comparison thrown around a lot for Ben's upside. I see it offensively. I think Jason had more game inside the arc, but Ben has the shooting edge at same stage.

Jason was the better defender in college imo though. Similar tools but I think Jason was both smarter and had better instincts from the games I've been able to find on youtube. Stats show it too. Better stl and blk rates, better defensive rebounder.

I don't think Ben busts but he just feels like the classic player that goes high based on the shooting + athleticism combination, but doesn't have the feel level / dribble, pass or defend well enough to return more than late lottery value. We'll see though.
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Maybe he's is a D Wade or DeRozen type.
 
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Hoopguru said:
Maybe he's is a D Wade or DeRozen type.
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DeMar has been a mid range killer all his life and carried that into the league and D wade was just on another level with the ball and defensively at Marquette.
 
Mystery player workout on Monday

"The Blazers will hold a workout for another potential lottery pick on Monday. The name of that player will be announced prior to the workout."
 
blazerfan11 said:
Mystery player workout on Monday

"The Blazers will hold a workout for another potential lottery pick on Monday. The name of that player will be announced prior to the workout."
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guessing sharpe.

would be amazing if it was someone like Paolo indicating interest to move up. However, it would probably too transparent to other teams.
 
sooo... sill nothing ive been able to sniff out on who this mystery man is. How inept are our local journalists to not develop connections with agencies?
 
You don’t spend top 10 picks on raw bigs.

Not because raw bigs aren’t good to have, they are.

But because you can get them later.

Mitchell Robinson
Daniel Gafford
Jarrett Allen
Robert Williams

all taken in the later first round or second round. Where they should be.

unless you are highly skilled a la Jaren Jackson (eg shooting, playmaking, etc), you use the top 10 pick on a wing.
 
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