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Any time you are completely obsessed with something, it is most likely an unhealthy obsession. I don't care if it's religion, sports, drugs or atheism. People who make their faith (or lack thereof) their entire life are neglecting other parts of their well being. I find that strange and unhealthy. Similarly, I find it unhealthy for people to fixate on atheism. You can choose to believe or not believe, but why do you have to prove to others that you're right? I can't stand atheists who demean and talk down to Christians. It's one thing if they're engaging you in discussion, but it's another thing entirely if they're minding their own business. It will never happen, but I really wish people would just keep their opinions on religion to themselves.

The L*kers are evil incarnate, and I will kill anyone who disagrees.
 
I understand that you are not particularly interested in God or my views thereof, but I'll respond anyway.

IMO, the proverb "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom" does not mean that God demands that you fear Him. It means that having a proper understanding of the frailty of man in comparison to the awesomeness of God is the starting point to allowing Him the proper (preeminent) place in your life.

Also, if He is the creator of the universe, and made me, then if He did demand to be feared, who would I be to quibble?

http://www.openbible.info/topics/fear_of_the_lord
 
I guess to answer the OP, I'd just avoid him. Although you said he was a friend, he doesn't sound very friendly. Aggressive, arrogant, preachy - those are fine qualities in an S2 poster, but not so much in real life.

barfo

Preach on!

Praise Photon.
 
What I don't understand is how everyone seems to twist the proverbs around, or the verses around from pretty much plain English to something entirely different just to suite the needs of the reader, audience, or disbeliever. Not just in the forums here with the recent discussions, but almost everywhere when people talk about the Bible, the actual words/meaning/understanding just get morphed.


Sure most people start out by saying "in my opinion the verse meant X" etc, etc, but then at that point, are you following the Bible, or your own opinion of what it should be based on your morals and outlook on the religion?
 
What I don't understand is how everyone seems to twist the proverbs around, or the verses around from pretty much plain English to something entirely different just to suite the needs of the reader, audience, or disbeliever. Not just in the forums here with the recent discussions, but almost everywhere when people talk about the Bible, the actual words/meaning/understanding just get morphed.


Sure most people start out by saying "in my opinion the verse meant X" etc, etc, but then at that point, are you following the Bible, or your own opinion of what it should be based on your morals and outlook on the religion?

As I said before, I am not a religious person. I do try to give the gift of faith to my child, however. As for me, I tend not to read scriptures like legal texts, adhering to the letter. Rather I focus on the spirit, and try to live what I believe to be a decent life. The Golden Rule seems to always be a good reference guide.
 
I think I'd just avoid the person, frankly. They aren't amenable to reason, and rarely will they just "agree to disagree" and be friends based on your common interests.
 
I mentioned this in another thread -- How would you respond to a friend who is this blitzed out on Jesus? This guy is like this constantly - aggressive, arrogant, preachy. He loves to talk about the Lake 'O Fire. I think he's to the point where he's headed towards the deep end in a Fred Phelps-like way:

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And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Why do you feel the need to respond to him?
 
As I said before, I am not a religious person. I do try to give the gift of faith to my child, however. As for me, I tend not to read scriptures like legal texts, adhering to the letter. Rather I focus on the spirit, and try to live what I believe to be a decent life. The Golden Rule seems to always be a good reference guide.

I'm just now trying to sort this stuff out with my wife as we are expecting shortly, and she believes in a spiritual christian god, but I do not. The golden rule, and helping others seems like the best place to start for common beliefs about love and compassion.
 
There are three things I refuse to discuss: religion, politics, and the L*kers.
 
I'm just now trying to sort this stuff out with my wife as we are expecting shortly, and she believes in a spiritual christian god, but I do not. The golden rule, and helping others seems like the best place to start for common beliefs about love and compassion.

Out of curiosity, why do you think love an compassion are important without it being tied to something beyond this life?
 
Out of curiosity, why do you think love an compassion are important without it being tied to something beyond this life?

I have a feeling you'll find the answer to this question if you read through the "golden rule" thread.
 

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