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[Jade Falcon]

LMFAO, that's brilliant! Rep.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I never said you couldn't. But stop assuming that I give a shit about your opinion or Alex Jones. Because I don't.

you have asked me for my opinion on numerous occasions. dont try to act too cool for school, because i got a newsflash for you, walter cronkite...you arent.

as far as alex jones goes, only a complete fucking idiot would care what he has to say. obviously. like only the dumbest fucking shitbirds in the country. seriously, only a absolute and utter moron would heap praise upon the guy. the most brain damaged dipshit you have ever met, times 10. the president-elect. schizophrenics.

those types of people.

 

[Jade Falcon]

you have asked me for my opinion on numerous occasions. dont try to act too cool for school, because i got a newsflash for you, walter cronkite...you arent.

as far as alex jones goes, only a complete fucking idiot would care what he has to say. obviously. like only the dumbest fucking shitbirds in the country. seriously, only a absolute and utter moron would heap praise upon the guy. the most brain damaged dipshit you have ever met, times 10. the president-elect. schizophrenics.

those types of people.

Dude, your problem here is that you're trying to argue with me about some idiot who I don't even care about. And, in fact, I believe we're actually AGREEING with each other about him.

That's your problem here. Just stop, lol. Sometimes, you try so hard to hate Trump that you actually end up arguing about something with somebody that's not even an issue.

Christ. And here I was thinking that I get worked up on this forum!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

as far as alex jones goes, only a complete fucking idiot would care what he has to say. obviously. like only the dumbest fucking shitbirds in the country. seriously, only a absolute and utter moron would heap praise upon the guy. the most brain damaged dipshit you have ever met, times 10. the president-elect. schizophrenics.

those types of people.

Do you think it's more likely that Trump agrees with and has a high opinion of Alex Jones, or that Trump used Jones and his platform to accomplish his goal of winning the presidency?

 

[Hobbesarable]

Boy, oh boy. She's an absolute dog!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Dude, your problem here is that you're trying to argue with me about some idiot who I don't even care about. And, in fact, I believe we're actually AGREEING with each other about him.

That's your problem here. Just stop, lol. Sometimes, you try so hard to hate Trump that you actually end up arguing about something with somebody that's not even an issue.

Christ. And here I was thinking that I get worked up on this forum!

Jeesh man, I wasn't arguing. I wasn't even debating. I said Alex Jones is trumps boy, you blew a gasket, and have been leaking steam ever since.

Turn down the pressure man, you are gonna have catastrophic failure of your 0.5" vertical tube flange!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Do you think it's more likely that Trump agrees with and has a high opinion of Alex Jones, or that Trump used Jones and his platform to accomplish his goal of winning the presidency?

I'm going to go with occams razor on this one and choose his actual mouth words over supposing some of your assumptions about his implied conspiratorial motives are correct. Seems far too presumptive to be likely.

 

[blue32]

Dude, your problem here is that you're trying to argue with me about some idiot who I don't even care about. And, in fact, I believe we're actually AGREEING with each other about him.

That's your problem here. Just stop, lol. Sometimes, you try so hard to hate Trump that you actually end up arguing about something with somebody that's not even an issue.

Christ. And here I was thinking that I get worked up on this forum!

Don't mind him. He's our resident "Mensa" member.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

hey we cant all work for the government!

and i dont hate trump. i sincerely do not remember ever declaring hate towards anybody except hillary, the lakers, probably the jazz, the dodgers, obama, and sly.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Don't mind him. He's our resident "Mensa" member.

you dont want to go down this road, pretty soon you'll be complaining to sly about "veiled insults" again.

you cant take it, but you still think you can dish it every once in awhile, its cute!

 

[Denny Crane]

LOL

Hey, you are the badass talking about "decking" Alex Jones. Which is illegal btw.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm going to go with occams razor on this one and choose his actual mouth words over supposing some of your assumptions about his implied conspiratorial motives are correct. Seems far too presumptive to be likely.

Wait--Occam's razor is that a notorious liar and user of people is being completely honest and had no ulterior motive in his approval of a lunatic?

That seems contradictory.

 

[PDXFonz]

This thread

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Wait--Occam's razor is that a notorious liar and user of people is being completely honest and had no ulterior motive in his approval of a lunatic?

That seems contradictory.

You have convinced me, I'd like to amend my answer. I'd say him seeking counsel from a lunatic, and him being a conniving liar are equally plausible.

 

[MarAzul]

This thread

Geez! You nailed it. And look at all those people liking the shit in this thread! WTF is up with that?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Maybe I don't care about it because I obey the law?

Obey the law, and you'll never have to see prison; for-profit or otherwise. When you break the law, you lose your right to complain about what prison you go to.

You're openly bi-sexual right? So when it was illegal to have same-sex intercourse in this country should you have been jailed for breaking that law?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[MARIS61]

Oh? Like what? Do educate me about what harmless things that are illegal that I should try to "grow some stones"?

Tell you what: when you patrol a ghetto in Portland without any backup, alone and on foot, for 12 hours a night, then you can lecture me about growing stones. You obviously seem to be a pretty big badass, so I'm sure you can do it.

Portland has ghettos now?

 

[Jade Falcon]

You're openly bi-sexual right? So when it was illegal to have same-sex intercourse in this country should you have been jailed for breaking that law?

There's a huge difference between raping someone, robbing people, murdering people, and pillaging/rioting communities.....and having consensual sex with someone.

And since having gay sex hasn't been illegal at the Federal level in my lifetime, then I'm ignoring that example. In fact, when doing a quick google search, I can find no instance (google search was "who was the last person to be arrested for homosexuality?") in THIS country of anyone actually being arrested just for being gay in the last 40 years.

Portland has ghettos now?

Unfortunately, yes. They're out there; mainly in the Northern parts of Portland (specifically, my experience has been in the North West side of Portland; industrial and urban), and in Hillsboro. Which is a shame, because many people who live there are good folks just trying to get by.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

So if guns were made illegal, would you turn all of yours in? :MARIS61:

 

[Jade Falcon]

So if guns were made illegal, would you turn all of yours in? :MARIS61:

What are these "guns" you speak of?

 

[jlprk]

There's a huge difference between raping someone, robbing people, murdering people, and pillaging/rioting communities.....and having consensual sex with someone.

And since having gay sex hasn't been illegal at the Federal level in my lifetime, then I'm ignoring that example. In fact, when doing a quick google search, I can find no instance (google search was "who was the last person to be arrested for homosexuality?") in THIS country of anyone actually being arrested just for being gay in the last 40 years.

You conveniently picked the post-hippy date of 40 years ago, and inserted the word "Federal." Better not travel to conservative states.

Since 2011, at least a dozen men have been arrested on a count of “attempted crimes against nature”—that is, an offer to have sex with another man. Even worse, the arrests were part of a sting operation in which undercover officers propositioned men, lured them into an apartment, then promptly arrested them and brought them to jail. The latest arrest occurred on July 18.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...ed_for_having_consensual_sex_in_some_red.html

 

[3RA1N1AC]

What are these "guns" you speak of?

umm, like these things?

 

[Jade Falcon]

You conveniently picked the post-hippy date of 40 years ago, and inserted the word "Federal." Better not travel to conservative states.



http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...ed_for_having_consensual_sex_in_some_red.html

Nice try, but I already saw the Slate article. The cases that they cite there are domestic violence cases (Slate conveniently ignores that) and prostitution cases. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "homosexual acts", as the article is trying to push.

umm, like these things?

But officer......I don't know anything about no guns!

 

[Denny Crane]

A buddy of mine had the state of california confiscate his guns. He had a loud argument with his then wife and the cops came. He wasn't arrested or anything. The next day, he was presented an order to surrender his guns. Which he did.

I don't think that's constitutional.

I do think it might be OK to turn over the guns for a while to cool down. We don't want domestic disputes to escalate to shootings. But forever? That's a violation of the 2nd.

 

[jlprk]

Nice try, but I already saw the Slate article. The cases that they cite there are domestic violence cases (Slate conveniently ignores that) and prostitution cases. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "homosexual acts", as the article is trying to push.

My article links to this one.
http://theweek.com/articles/465821/why-many-states-still-have-antisodomy-laws

Georgia's Attorney General rescinded a job offer to a lesbian lawyer because she was marrying a woman, and then successfully used the state's sodomy law to justify the discrimination...in 1998, a gay couple in Houston was arrested under Texas' anti-sodomy law for allegedly having sex ...a 2008 case in North Carolina in which two men were arrested by the Raleigh Police Department for having consensual sex...

Regardless, it was within your lifetime that police routinely ran stings in bathroom stalls. I used to read about them definitely in the 80s and maybe in the 90s.

 

[Jade Falcon]

A buddy of mine had the state of california confiscate his guns. He had a loud argument with his then wife and the cops came. He wasn't arrested or anything. The next day, he was presented an order to surrender his guns. Which he did.

I don't think that's constitutional.

I do think it might be OK to turn over the guns for a while to cool down. We don't want domestic disputes to escalate to shootings. But forever? That's a violation of the 2nd.

Guns confiscated over an argument? With no physical violence?

Personally, I think that's going a bit too far. If I were the responding officers, I think a more reasonable approach would simply be to break up the couple for the evening until things cool down. Which is how I think the majority of police responses to arguments end.

Alcohol also plays a part in that. Sober up for a night and reapproach things with your significant other when you're sober.

But coming by with an order to sieze guns without physical harm or a history of domestic violence? Over a heated argument?

Yeah, that's a bit much in my opinion.

But this is California. The politicians know what's best for the people.

.....I trust I don't have to use green font for sarcasm there....

 

[Jade Falcon]

My article links to this one.
http://theweek.com/articles/465821/why-many-states-still-have-antisodomy-laws

Regardless, it was within your lifetime that police routinely ran stings in bathroom stalls. I used to read about them definitely in the 80s and maybe in the 90s.

Okay, I'm going to use common sense here and say that there was likely a LOT more to that woman having her job offer rescinded than simply being Lesbian. Especially if the SUPREME COURT denied her appeal.

"Stings in bathroom stalls"....for SOLICITING SEX. It has nothing to do with being gay. They were arrested for SOLICITING SEX. Try and keep up.

Your articles are blowing shit greatly out of proportion; especially as it is trying to compare the solicitation of people under the age of 18 for sexual activity with that of a gay person being denied a job.

Nevermind the fact that you are derailing this thread further away from the original topic. So just stop while you're behind.

 

[jlprk]

Georgia's Attorney General rescinded a job offer to a lesbian lawyer because she was marrying a woman, and then successfully used the state's sodomy law to justify the discrimination...in 1998, a gay couple in Houston was arrested under Texas' anti-sodomy law for allegedly having sex ...a 2008 case in North Carolina in which two men were arrested by the Raleigh Police Department for having consensual sex...

So you're just going to ignore those 3 examples. You just say you're against solicitation for sex, when it's not for money. The articles I used to read were of a man playing footsy with a man in an adjoining stall. It was not prostitution. In the 70s and 80s, public stalls always had gay messages scrawled on the wall, sometimes with phone numbers. You have no problem with police busting people for that.

 

[Jade Falcon]

So you're just going to ignore those 3 examples. You just say you're against solicitation for sex, when it's not for money. The articles I used to read were of a man playing footsy with a man in an adjoining stall. It was not prostitution. In the 70s and 80s, public stalls always had gay messages scrawled on the wall, sometimes with phone numbers. You have no problem with police busting people for that.

So you JUST ADMITTED that it was for the purposes of SOLICITING SEX. Which, in most locals, is ILLEGAL. Money doesn't have to change hands in order for that to apply.

Remember....the basis of this argument is: OBEY THE LAW. You run a far less risk of not going to prison, or having the police arrest you or confiscate your things, if you simply OBEY THE LAW. And soliciting sex in a public bathroom is AGAINST THE LAW.

Again....try and keep up here. And get back on the topic at hand. I'm getting tired of having to explain this to someone who I assumed was smart enough to figure all of this out on his own.