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[Jade Falcon]

Oh, that's good.
Huh? Clearly we have different definitions of "making sense"
There was I thinking that I was motivated by issues rather than personalities. Oh the lies I've been telling myself!

I wasn't talking to you, but I think you know that. I think you just enjoy playing a troll.

Good job! If only you could have come out of it a happier person, but that might be asking too much.

Yep.....you definitely enjoy playing a troll.

I thought it was obvious that my point was that there are plenty of people who have been arrested despite following the law.

We're not talking about traffic tickets here, and I don't subscribe to the Leftist-made boogyman that every cop is out there looking for innocent people to arrest.

Here - you like logic, here's a useful distinction. My point was that being law-abiding was not sufficient for not being arrested.

Bullshit. Don't associate in bad areas or places, don't associate with questionable people, don't do drugs, don't draw attention to yourself, and obey the law. It's not hard to do. It REALLY isn't. Hell, I'm willing to bet probably 99% of the people who have ever signed up on this forum have managed to go through life by obeying the law and not having a negative encounter with the police outside of a questionable speeding ticket.

You've never been arrested, I've never been arrested.....why is this so hard for those few people in our society to accomplish?

I think laws should be just, and fairly enforced, and we should follow them.

Agreed.

I do happen to believe that we have a duty to resist laws that are flagrantly unjust

So do I. By writing to our politicians, campaigning, starting legal appeals, and fighting in court. Not by resisting arrest, soliciting sex in a public bathroom, fighting with the police, or rioting.

So we agree on that. I assume.

You seem to think that being "law-abiding" is what keeps a person out of jail.

It works for tens of millions of people across this country every day. In fact, it works for MOST of our population.

But it's certainly not sufficient, and it isn't even necessary if you're rich enough to get good lawyers.

Oh really? Tell that to Madoff, Martha Stewart, Tom Delay (avoided prison but still saw jail time and was still convicted of felony crimes), and numerous other people this past decade who have gone to prison (Ethan Couch's dad just went to prison as well).

I will give you that it is perhaps easier to avoid prison if you're rich, but crime is crime, and punishment is punishment. When that judge bangs his/hers gavel, you just become another inmate; regardless of how much cash you have.

incompetent defense lawyers/people with an interest in using your incarceration to their advantage.

I agree with you on these two issues: there are way too many incompetent defense lawyers out there, and too many prosecutors with axes to grind and political dreams to aspire to.

Like Marilyn Mosby.

 

[jlprk]

Bullshit. Don't associate in bad areas or places, don't associate with questionable people, don't do drugs, don't draw attention to yourself, and obey the law. It's not hard to do. It REALLY isn't. Hell, I'm willing to bet probably 99% of the people who have ever signed up on this forum have managed to go through life by obeying the law and not having a negative encounter with the police outside of a questionable speeding ticket.

You've never been arrested, I've never been arrested.....why is this so hard for those few people in our society to accomplish?

...It works for tens of millions of people across this country every day. In fact, it works for MOST of our population.

Your moral justification for evil laws and practices of the legal system is that you'll bash my head if I don't obey you--why is that so hard for me to accept? "It's not hard to do. It REALLY isn't." Well, I guess you hold the moral high ground with that commandment. It's easy to be evil, so why don't we just shut up and be evil?

 

[Jade Falcon]

Did she lose those things because the law took them when it busted her? How much of her losses were due to the illegality of drugs? As for your embellished "putting someone at risk"--I notice that you're not claiming that person was hurt.



You are attempting to justify evil laws by using vague sources of troubled people (yourself and your sister) who would have been incarcerated, as proof that we should follow them, because you think evil laws hold the moral high ground.



Take your justifying evil laws for selfish motives (you would have been busted if you hadn't followed them--well duh, that doesn't justify them).

Did she lose those things because the law took them when it busted her?

Yes and no. She was never arrested, but both sides of the family went to court to halt several things; custody of her son being one of them.

How much of her losses were due to the illegality of drugs?

Well.....if she hadn't dealt in a substance which was illegal...........

If you want to get technical about it (because I know you're still trying to justify this), then you could say that addiction led to her to destroy a very nice life. Addiction to an ILLEGAL substance.

As for your embellished "putting someone at risk"--I notice that you're not claiming that person was hurt.

Holy shit. So hold on....you think inviting addicts, criminals, and strangers (many of whom were illegally armed as well....something which she's actually told me) into your apartment for felony drug use and sales is a safe and productive environment for a child to live in?

Surely you cannot possibly be that stupid. Surely. Come on now.

As for being harmed: the kid is a complete fuck up today because he has no stable parents. He's obese and depressed. The family that raises him (his father's side) are a bunch of morons and, while they are good people at heart who are law-abiding, God-fearing people, they're also not very bright, and have kids of their own to raise (and they just divorced on top of it). And they aren't his parents, which is what he's really missing.

So yes, I would say drugs definitely harmed him. If you can't see the correlation (I'm betting you won't...), then you're a moron.

You are attempting to justify evil laws by using vague sources of troubled people

Your moral justification for evil laws and practices of the legal system is that you'll bash my head if I don't obey you--why is that so hard for me to accept? "It's not hard to do. It REALLY isn't." Well, I guess you hold the moral high ground with that commandment. It's easy to be evil, so why don't we just shut up and be evil?

Oh yeah....laws are SO terrible. SO evil.

If California had followed its fucking laws, instead of being a bunch of Liberal pussies, 33 people would still be alive:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/us/oakland-fire-investigation/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/us/oakland-fire-investigation/
If they had followed Federal law and arrested the Illegal Alien instead of sheltering him, an innocent woman would still be alive:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/03/us/san-francisco-killing-suspect-immigrant-deported/

Kinda hard to hate the laws and call them evil when they aren't enforced because of people like you.

 

[barfo]

I would fuck the shit out of her with a kryptonite condem

I'm not sure you understand how kryptonite works.

barfo

 

[jlprk]

If California had followed its fucking laws, instead of being a bunch of Liberal pussies, 33 people would still be alive:

33 people would be alive, but 80 million who have been in jail or prison for drug charges would now be employable. In order to save your tiny numbers, you destroy the lives of 1/3 of all American men, who have been in jail.

FBI statistics several years ago said that 20-30 million Americans have done time for LSD. 80 million for any drug offense. It's more now. Now you try to justify laws prohibiting sex. And that justification is...(wait for it)...it's easy to obey the laws! Most people do, so it must be right! Well, almost half of all men in Michigan are felons. It doesn't seem to be as easy as you claim. What's easy is to get a high-paying job to be a bully. You probably think I mean only police, but there are as many lawyers as police, with plenty of staff. Their power greatly exceeds their IQs. You probably think it has to be this way, but this is only a recent phenomenon. And the high numbers in prison are peculiar to America.

 

[Jade Falcon]

33 people would be alive, but 80 million who have been in jail or prison for drug charges would now be employable. In order to save your tiny numbers, you destroy the lives of 1/3 of all American men, who have ben in jail.

FBI statistics several years ago said that 20-30 million Americans have done time for LSD. 80 million for any drug offense. It's more now. Now you try to justify laws prohibiting sex. And that justification is...(wait for it)...it's easy to obey the laws! Most people do, so it must be right! Well, almost half of all men in Michigan are felons. It doesn't seem to be as easy as you claim. What's easy is to get a high-paying job to be a bully. You probably think I mean only police, but there are as many lawyers as police, with plenty of staff. Their power greatly exceeds their IQs. You probably think it has to be this way, but this is only a recent phenomenon. And the high numbers in prison are peculiar to America.

I have no reason to doubt your numbers. It's unfortunate that addiction to drugs causes many to turn to crime to support their habits.

What exactly am I missing here? You think that if we legalize LSD, Heroine, Cocaine, and other hard-core drugs, that it will stop addicts and drug dealers from committing crimes against others to support their habits or sales?

Surely you're not that stupid.

 

[jlprk]

Few of those drug users were addicts. You will find any excuse to take power from the individual and hand it to the state, won't you. You have no belief in freedom.

Edit: I need to start matching the insults you make every single time. So here goes. Surely you're not that stupid.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Few of those drug users were addicts. You will find any excuse to take power from the individual and hand it to the state, won't you. You have no belief in freedom.

Edit: I need to start matching the insults you make every single time. So here goes. Surely you're not that stupid.

That's the dumbest thing you've said yet. What proof do you have that few of those people were addicts?

And it's not an insult to ask if you're stupid or not. I'm giving you an opportunity to prove to me that you're not. So far.....you've failed miserably.

 

[blue32]

you dont want to go down this road, pretty soon you'll be complaining to sly about "veiled insults" again.

you cant take it, but you still think you can dish it every once in awhile, its cute!

Cutie, I've never PM'd Sly to complain about anything.

 

[jlprk]

Whatever lifestyle they chose, what makes you the arbiter of morals? Is it your superior intelligence, or just your moral high ground of shooting people who resist you?

Kinda hard to hate the laws and call them evil when they aren't enforced because of people like you.

Gotcha. Any law which is enforced is a virtuous law. By definition of the word "enforced" it can't be bad.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Whatever lifestyle they chose, what makes you the arbiter of morals? Is it your superior intelligence, or just your moral high ground of shooting people who resist you?



Gotcha. Any law which is enforced is a virtuous law. By definition of the word "enforced" it can't be bad.

LMAO. Don't be mad at me, buttercup. Continue to be mad at your government and politicians for making them.

Oh wait....I'm sorry....according to you, it's only Republicans who fuck with people.

Let me know where I can send you bail money.

 

[jlprk]

With every insult, you display that you have no morality to rule, only bullying. You just prove my point, making my job to disprove you easy. Try logic instead of violence. And I don't mean a logic that begins with the principle that might makes right.

 

[Jade Falcon]

With every insult, you display that you have no morality to rule, only bullying. You just prove my point, making my job to disprove you easy. Try logic instead of violence.

LMAO, that's hilarious. Reading your posts has actually LOWERED my blood pressure, because I'm convinced you're just messing with us here. None of what you say is actually meant to be taken seriously.

 

[jlprk]

You obviously missed the 60s.

Steps for a conservative when proven wrong:
1. Insult.
2. Laugh and snicker. (your last post)
3. Claim that both sides do it.

I'm moving you down your options.

 

[Jade Falcon]

You obviously missed the 60s.

Steps for a conservative when proven wrong:
1. Insult.
2. Laugh and snicker. (your last post)
3. Claim that both sides do it.

I'm moving you down your options.

Well, you've already got the insulting part down. I would go back and quote your insults, but I don't want to embarrass you any further.

Unlike me though, your LIBERAL "steps" consist of:

-Making strawman arguments and derailing a topic
-Claiming that only one political party is responsible for the woes of society
-Making excuses for things which go against logic and defined reason

I'm off to watch Anime. Call me if you have something intelligent to say.

Oh wait....did I hurt your feelings with that statement?

Oops, there I go again....

Oh well.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[magnifier661]

I'm not sure you understand how kryptonite works.

barfo

Actually I do. I want it to keep me from blowing a load and have hour long sex!

 

[riverman]

Actually I do. I want it to keep me from blowing a load and have hour long sex!

practice young man...it takes practice...next time don't get out of game shape...the trick is to slow down....none of that energizer bunny shit!

 

[MARIS61]

Couple of guys here need to get a life.

 

[MarAzul]

Couple of guys here need to get a life.

Ha! They are remembering shit they never could remember.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Couple of guys here need to get a life.

Yeah! Fuck those guys!

Ha! They are remembering shit they never could remember.

Yeah, really!

....wait, who the fuck am I?

What's going on now?



Oh yeah! THANKS TRUMP!

....there, did I do it right?

 

[jlprk]

Well, you've already got the insulting part down. I would go back and quote your insults, but I don't want to embarrass you any further.

I see. You don't have the time. You called me stupid in every post you made. I matched you only at the end, once or twice. You and I know, but sure, I understand you want to maintain your reputation, you don't have the time. And no, you didn't hurt my feelings. I actually liked your idiocy in yelling like it's a bar fight, because you proved to readers that bullying is all you got in a logical argument. So keep up your loudmouth lout internet personality. It keeps you going, like Meyers Leonard's "shooting ability" keeps him in the league. Speaking of shooting off, you like to talk about yours, but hey, your mouth isn't everything.

 

[jlprk]

Most gays shouldn't be ridiculed, but I'll make an exception for you, Cowboy.

I see you're viewing at this late hour. Night shift in the patrol car?

 

[Jade Falcon]

I see. You don't have the time. You called me stupid in every post you made. I matched you only at the end, once or twice. You and I know, but sure, I understand you want to maintain your reputation, you don't have the time. And no, you didn't hurt my feelings. I actually liked your idiocy in yelling like it's a bar fight, because you proved to readers that bullying is all you got in a logical argument. So keep up your loudmouth lout internet personality. It keeps you going, like Meyers Leonard's "shooting ability" keeps him in the league. Speaking of shooting off, you like to talk about yours, but hey, your mouth isn't everything.

I didn't call you stupid, I ASKED if you were. As I explained, I gave you the opportunity to prove to me that you weren't. Obviously, you failed.

When you:

-Justify drug use
-Deny that addiction exists
-Blame the government for outlandish shit based on a personal grudge
-Use strawman arguments and derail topics

....then I'm afraid you lose your self-righteous credibility.

But by all means, continue spouting your nonsense. You're showing everyone on this forum that you are about as extreme to the Left as the KKK is to the Right.

Most gays shouldn't be ridiculed, but I'll make an exception for you, Cowboy.

I see you're viewing at this late hour. Night shift in the patrol car?

I'm Bisexual, not Gay. I see you can't even get that right.

LOL, I can just feel your hatred oozing from your post like diarrhea from a baby. Show me whatcha got, buttercup.

 

[jlprk]

I don't care what you called me. You keep bringing that up. I understand that it's part of your public persona. Did you say you live with your mother? "I don't have the time" to look back in this thread, but you said something like that. Maybe it was another thread.

So to conclude, your hypocrisy is on stage here. You bash heads who break the law, and you say that gays aren't busted anymore (yeah right) so you're not a hypocrite, while admitting you would have been a generation ago when they were (but that's all over according to you...without crediting liberals for it). You must be quite the center of attention on the gun show stage, waving your arms and all in your cowboy suit. Goodnight.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I don't care what you called me. You keep bringing that up. I understand that it's part of your public persona. Did you say you live with your mother? "I don't have the time" to look back in this thread, but you said something like that. Maybe it was another thread.

So to conclude, your hypocrisy is on stage here. You bash heads who break the law, and you say that gays aren't busted anymore (yeah right) so you're not a hypocrite, while admitting you would have been a generation ago when they were (but that's all over according to you...without crediting liberals for it). You must be quite the center of attention on the gun show stage, waving your arms and all in your cowboy suit. Goodnight.

Everything.....EVERY single thing....you just said right there is absolutely wrong. Everything.

But I've long figured out that you're just a troll who doesn't take himself seriously. Like Tunchi.

Leaving so soon? Going off to pester someone else in another thread?

Good riddance. I thought you'd never shut the fuck up with your constant childish whining. Goodnight.

 

[riverman]

condem

not quite sure what this device is but it sounds like a bird

 

[blue32]

hahahaha

 

[magnifier661]

not quite sure what this device is but it sounds like a bird

Post of the day!

 

[e_blazer]

not quite sure what this device is but it sounds like a bird

Condem? Sounds like a prophylactic that was supposed to be given out to party-goers at the Democratic National Convention. Not transparent and leaks like a sieve.