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Napier is done here. Renounce him.

Connaughton is a towel waiver. If they want to bring him back for the minimum, cool. Otherwise he can go too.

Meyers and Turner should go but no one wants that shit unless we attach a pick or take back equal contracts.

CJ should be on the block but it’ll never happen as long as Olshey is in charge.

This all leads to the most likely fall guy...Terry. But I’d fire Olshey instead.
 
CJ is a baller but I just don’t see it working anymore. Not his fault, it’s the GM’s fault. If we can’t get the right personnel around Dame/CJ then we have to bite the bullet and get the best return possible from one of the two. I say trade CJ for a 4 man who is a legitimate Pick and Pop guy or see if we can get a lotto pick for him.

I know he stinks at defense, but Kevin Love would be ridiculous with Dame. In both the P&R and also dribble penetration kick outs.
 
We were much better when we had size/D and outside shooting at the the 2 and 3 a la Matthews and Batum. Replace CJ and Turner/Harkless with those two and I think we would have weathered the series.
 
blue9 said:
Terry
Shabazz*
Alfarouq
Evan
(Neil)

These are the folk I want as far away from my team as possible.
Who do you say goodbye to?

*Just because he's a FA. Nothing against Bazz, he's just not worth bringing back.
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Yourself. This team is stuck with a few of those names like it or not. So where might YOU go to get as far away as possible?
 
Why would anyone want to say goodbye to Aminu?? He's on a reasonable deal and was our best player in the playoffs.
 
BBert said:
If that "new SG" is Turner, that's a hell of a defensive lineup. But dame will be flat smothered.
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Yeah I was thinking.
Man hope Collins & Nurk have huge growth and become 2nd and 3rd scoring options.
 
A$AP Meyers said:
CJ is a baller but I just don’t see it working anymore. Not his fault, it’s the GM’s fault. If we can’t get the right personnel around Dame/CJ then we have to bite the bullet and get the best return possible from one of the two. I say trade CJ for a 4 man who is a legitimate Pick and Pop guy or see if we can get a lotto pick for him.

I know he stinks at defense, but Kevin Love would be ridiculous with Dame. In both the P&R and also dribble penetration kick outs.
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See to me the problem was the P&R completely.
Not who was running the P&R.
Why run 90 P&R's a game against the best P&R defense in the league?
Unless you have Westbrick, Giannis or LBJ... I don't think running so many P&R's with anyone is a winning strat.

I don't think Lillard + Love P&R would've done any better against the Pels, than it did with Aminu.
 
honkicracker said:
Yeah I was thinking.
Man hope Collins & Nurk have huge growth and become 2nd and 3rd scoring options.
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I see no reason why those two would not come in next season vastly improved. If they work on the right things.
 
BBert said:
I see no reason why those two would not come in next season vastly improved. If they work on the right things.
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Yeah, but is one of them going to pop off for 20+ PPG?
And is the other going to be consistently 15+ with many games of 20+?
I don't think so.
 
blue9 said:
Four games does not sway my opinion. But, I actually have to commend Aminu for his 1:1 defense on Davis - he did better than could be expected. That said, his help defense was typical (garbage). And yes, he hit shots - but Aminu hitting shots is not a recipe for success. Aminu is a huge reason we're mediocre - he's simply not good enough to be a starter. My saying goodbye to Aminu (and everyone, actually) has nothing to do with this series, and everything to do with his career. I do not change my opinion after 1 game, 10 games, or 20 games (unless it's a rookie).
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Well, how a guy does in the playoffs is really important, and Aminu seems to always step up his game in the playoffs; unlike some others on the team.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Well, how a guy does in the playoffs is really important, and Aminu seems to always step up his game in the playoffs; unlike some others on the team.
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It’s because teams let Aminu take a personal shoot around. No one fears him. Props to him for stepping up though, not going to take that away from him, but let’s be real.
 
honkicracker said:
Yeah, but is one of them going to pop off for 20+ PPG?
And is the other going to be consistently 15+ with many games of 20+?
I don't think so.
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No certainly not. We need them and we need them to get better, but we also need to get Dame more back court and wing help.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I like him, but we still don’t get past the first round with him.

Our roster is so deeply flawed and fucked.
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Maybe not but if we had a consistent shooter like him teams would defend us different, especially on pick and rolls.
 
Scalma said:
Maybe not but if we had a consistent shooter like him teams would defend us different, especially on pick and rolls.
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Yeah, but it’s not enough. He’d be phenomenal bench addition but our starting lineup is not a playoff starting lineup. Unless Collins comes into next season well prepared we still have a shitty forward situation.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Yeah, but it’s not enough. He’d be phenomenal bench addition but our starting lineup is not a playoff starting lineup. Unless Collins comes into next season well prepared we still have a shitty forward situation.
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I don’t disagree. We missed Moe too.
 
blue9 said:
Terry
Shabazz*
Alfarouq
Evan
(Neil)

These are the folk I want as far away from my team as possible.
Who do you say goodbye to?

*Just because he's a FA. Nothing against Bazz, he's just not worth bringing back.
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Honestly I was surprised that Shabazz wasn’t in rotation. Really think that was mistake by coach.
 
1eyejack said:
Honestly I was surprised that Shabazz wasn’t in rotation. Really think that was mistake by coach.
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He was in the rotation the first game of the series and it was a disaster. Honestly, that is one of the few things I don't blame Stotts for (pulling him). Rondo and Holiday are a horrible matchup for him. Their length gave him major troubles. He would have re-appeared in the rotation in the 2nd round (had we made it).
 
Wouldn’t mind seeing what a good coach could do with this roster (or slightly tweaked roster).
 
Chief can not start at SF, ideally he would be a super sub at the 4.

I would like everyone not named Dame or Zach gone(unless someone offers a top 5 pick in this draft for Dame) however I expect only Terry, CJ, Pat, Bazz and Layman to be gone, unless we can attach Meyers in the CJ trade.
 
The more i think about it the more I’m intrigued by what kind of player CJ would be without Dame around. I mean Dame has more trade value and would make it easier to acquire Kawhi than using CJ.

Nurk/Collins/Kawhi/CJ/Bazz or Draft pick

It’s better than what we rolled out this season.
 
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